Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Because you just posted a message, you flaming asshole.

Have a nice day. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"SteveB" wrote:

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Bowing before the King, he needs to learn protocol. Who the hell is advising him? Obama
isn't my pick but damn, he needs someone that can teach him how all these social
interactions work. Also, DVD's and Ipods don't get it.

He is embarasing me. I do give him points for not giving Merkle a back rub though.

Wes

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:37:19 -0600, "SteveB" wrote:

Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

He's had to make up for the disasters caused by his predecessor. There's still
quite a way to go before the rest of the world has much respect for the US.



That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

I didn't realize you were a British, Commonwealth or Russian citizen...


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.




Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

He's the most intelligent president you've had in the last 28 years and the
only chance you've got to survive as a super-power. Feel free to want to
continue wasting your service men's lives in global ****ing contests. Luckily
for them, you aren't making the decisions.



Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve


Because your political views are full of it?

regards
Mark Rand
RTFM

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:24:55 +0100, Mark Rand wrote:



You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.

Mark Rand
RTFM

Mark Rand wrote:


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.


I would hope the home team would try a bit harder. I'll leave it there. Many good men
died defending freedom.

Wes

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:28:11 +0100, Mark Rand
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:24:55 +0100, Mark Rand wrote:



You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.

Mark Rand
RTFM

And the british were in it for nearly 2 years longer than the US.

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Mark Rand wrote:

You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Then your military needs better training. Your boys got their asses
shot up pretty good in the Revolutionary War too. I suppose that is
Bush's fault, too?


--
And another motherboard bites the dust!

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:03:13 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
scrawled the following:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:28:11 +0100, Mark Rand
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:24:55 +0100, Mark Rand wrote:



You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.

Mark Rand
RTFM

And the british were in it for nearly 2 years longer than the US.

If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."

Too many people have died in war over land and religion.

--
You can't do anything about the length of your life,
but you _can_ do something about its width and depth.
-- Evan Esar

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
snip
If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."


I wonder if we would be better off if Germany had won. Hitler and that
philosophy would have passed quickly and good sense would have prevailed and
led the world into peace and prosperity.
....sure beats the socialism we're heading into.

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:11:53 -0400, "Buerste" wrote:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
snip
If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."


I wonder if we would be better off if Germany had won. Hitler and that
philosophy would have passed quickly and good sense would have prevailed and
led the world into peace and prosperity.

Hardly...The Nazis would have continued plaguing the world ..taking
more and more of it and killing off all those who were Jews, Gypsies
etc etc etc until they had prvailed over most of the planet, or had
been put down like the viciious dogs they were. Be thankful they are
gone.

...sure beats the socialism we're heading into.

Socialism, Nazism, Marxism...all are part of a great game played by
people who want to be rulers of it all.

We defeated the Nazis, we defeated the Marxists..now its time to kill
the Socialists.

Stockup, prepare, strike when the time is right.

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:31:58 -0400, Wes wrote:

"SteveB" wrote:

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Bowing before the King, he needs to learn protocol. Who the hell is advising him? Obama
isn't my pick but damn, he needs someone that can teach him how all these social
interactions work. Also, DVD's and Ipods don't get it.

He is embarasing me. I do give him points for not giving Merkle a back rub though.

Wes
He isn't your presodent? Then get the 77EH out of the country.

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:48:01 -0400, Wes wrote:

Mark Rand wrote:


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.


I would hope the home team would try a bit harder. I'll leave it there. Many good men
died defending freedom.

Wes


More Canadians have died in Afganistan than Americans and Europeans
combined.

On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:18:06 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:48:01 -0400, Wes wrote:

Mark Rand wrote:


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.


I would hope the home team would try a bit harder. I'll leave it there. Many good men
died defending freedom.

Wes


More Canadians have died in Afganistan than Americans and Europeans
combined.


Why? Are most of your lads being shot when driving up to a village
with a casserole and offering to feed the vill?

Guner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Because you just posted a message, you flaming asshole.

Have a nice day. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Hey, how can you tell someone is a right wing nut? They're the only people
you can find anywhere that don't like Obama. Everywhere he goes people like
him, not like the last loser we had in the White House, you know the one
that the right wingers told us would be a great president. Only our home
grown right wing nuts can't stand Obama, which in my book proves that he's
on the right track. Right wingers hate him. I guess it's time to start
calling them haters again, isn't it? What did it take, 3 months?

Hawke

"Mark Rand" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:24:55 +0100, Mark Rand
wrote:



You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war
were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian
deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.

Mark Rand
RTFM

But to put that in perspective you have to remember that at the time the
population of the U.S. was more than twice as large as that of the U.K. So
the British casualties were proportionally much higher than ours.

Hawke

"Mark Rand" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:37:19 -0600, "SteveB" wrote:

Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

He's had to make up for the disasters caused by his predecessor. There's
still
quite a way to go before the rest of the world has much respect for the
US.



That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

I didn't realize you were a British, Commonwealth or Russian citizen...


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were
90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian
deaths.




Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

He's the most intelligent president you've had in the last 28 years and
the
only chance you've got to survive as a super-power. Feel free to want to
continue wasting your service men's lives in global ****ing contests.
Luckily
for them, you aren't making the decisions.



Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve


Because your political views are full of it?

regards
Mark Rand
RTFM

Ah, yes. A true leader first makes up for his predecessor, never missing an
opportunity or photoop to highlight the point.

Seig Heil, Hussein!

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:31:58 -0400, Wes wrote:

"SteveB" wrote:

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Bowing before the King, he needs to learn protocol. Who the hell is
advising him? Obama
isn't my pick but damn, he needs someone that can teach him how all these
social
interactions work. Also, DVD's and Ipods don't get it.

He is embarasing me. I do give him points for not giving Merkle a back
rub though.

Wes
He isn't your presodent? Then get the 77EH out of the country.

"presodent"? I'm surprised he didn't break into some dawg rap about his ho
and start breakdancing.

SteveB wrote:
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve



Afterall the previous posts, lets get back to the original one.
If you had his job could you do better?
Ill come bact to this in a mo.
Yes Im over here and a Brit,
So were eternally grateful for your efforts in 1914/18 and 1939/45
that is why we call it a special relationship.
So when you chose to go to Iraq and Afganistan we were therefor you.
Despite the fact were a fraction of the size of the USA.
Long may it continue.
Now back to "if you had his job"
Your new President has been given a very bitter drink to go with his
new job.
Wars no one wanted, Militant Islam, and a financial meltdown caused by
your Bankers greed.
So how would you deal with these?
Your President is trying veryhard to unite everyone toward solving
these problems so give him a chance to get it right.
If all you can do is complain and havent make any useful suggestions
then shut up.
Your just making his job harder.
Would you want that if you had his job?
Theres only one way to get out of this political and economic mess.
Thats to pull together, work hard, create wealth toward a better future
for us all in the West.
As an afterthought, what you could do with is a Conversion on the road
to Damascus.

wrote:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:48:01 -0400, Wes wrote:

Mark Rand wrote:


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.


I would hope the home team would try a bit harder. I'll leave it there. Many good men
died defending freedom.

Wes


More Canadians have died in Afganistan than Americans and Europeans
combined.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/af...ties/list.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...SJuvQD97BAEMO0

You are correct if you say that as a percentage of your population. I think that is what
you ment.



Wes

"Buerste" wrote in message
...

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
snip
If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."


I wonder if we would be better off if Germany had won. Hitler and that
philosophy would have passed quickly and good sense would have prevailed
and led the world into peace and prosperity.
...sure beats the socialism we're heading into.
Now you're revealing your true colors.

On Apr 3, 10:11*pm, "Buerste" wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

...
snip

If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."

I wonder if we would be better off if Germany had won. *Hitler and that
philosophy would have passed quickly and good sense would have prevailed and
led the world into peace and prosperity.
...sure beats the socialism we're heading into.

You're kidding, right?

On Apr 3, 2:37*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. *For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. *Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Because you never learned to control your bowels or your mouth?

Obama is mending fences because Bush was an idiot that disgraced this
Country and the office of President..

And the vast majority of the American public and the world population
agree on that.

That makes you a member of the tiny minority who wants him to fail.

That smacks of an unpatriotic citizen who dishonors those who had
given everything for this Country.

As for Obama and the vets...he has done more for them in the short
time he has been in office than Bush did in the last eight years.

Last point..aren't you one of the whiners about OT posts?

Hypocrite

TMT

On Apr 3, 4:31*pm, Wes wrote:
"SteveB" wrote:
And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. *Nice Commander in Chief.

Bowing before the King, he needs to learn protocol. *Who the hell is advising him? *Obama
isn't my pick but damn, he needs someone that can teach him how all these social
interactions work. *Also, DVD's and Ipods don't get it.

He is embarasing me. *I do give him points for not giving Merkle a back rub though. * *

Wes

And Merkle is overwhelming thankful for that.

TMT

On Apr 3, 5:24*pm, Mark Rand wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:37:19 -0600, "SteveB" wrote:
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

He's had to make up for the disasters caused by his predecessor. There's still
quite a way to go before the rest of the world has much respect for the US.



That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. *For a whole continent who we saved.

I didn't realize you were a British, Commonwealth or Russian citizen...

You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war *were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.



Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current service
personnel. *Nice Commander in Chief.

He's the most intelligent president you've had in the last 28 years and the
only chance you've got to survive as a super-power. Feel free to want to
continue *wasting your service men's lives in global ****ing contests. Luckily
for them, you aren't making the decisions.



Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Because your political views are full of it?

regards
Mark Rand
RTFM

Well said.

TMT

On Apr 3, 7:24*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
Mark Rand wrote:

You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war *were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.

* *Then your military needs better training. *Your boys got their asses
shot up pretty good in the Revolutionary War too. *I suppose that is
Bush's fault, too?

--
And another motherboard bites the dust!

Well Bush's ancestors were likely AWOL.

TMT

On Apr 3, 9:28*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:11:53 -0400, "Buerste" wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
snip
If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."

I wonder if we would be better off if Germany had won. *Hitler and that
philosophy would have passed quickly and good sense would have prevailed and
led the world into peace and prosperity.

Hardly...The Nazis would have continued plaguing the world ..taking
more and more of it and killing off all those who were Jews, Gypsies
etc etc etc until they had prvailed over most of the planet, or had
been put down like the viciious dogs they were. *Be thankful they are
gone.

...sure beats the socialism we're heading into.

Socialism, Nazism, Marxism...all are part of a great game played by
people who want to be rulers of it all.

We defeated the Nazis, we defeated the Marxists..now its time to kill
the Socialists.

Stockup, prepare, strike when the time is right.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont *kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." *Gunner

The Socialists were defeated last November.

TMT

On Apr 4, 12:14*am, "Hawke" wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message

...







"SteveB" wrote in message
...
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. *For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service personnel. *Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Because you just posted a message, you flaming asshole.

Have a nice day. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Hey, how can you tell someone is a right wing nut? They're the only people
you can find anywhere that don't like Obama. Everywhere he goes people like
him, not like the last loser we had in the White House, you know the one
that the right wingers told us would be a great president. Only our home
grown right wing nuts can't stand Obama, which in my book proves that he's
on the right track. Right wingers hate him. I guess it's time to start
calling them haters again, isn't it? What did it take, 3 months?

Hawke- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Three seconds.

I was watching Faux News live when the election results were
announced.

The losers showed their true unpatriotic colors immediately.

TMT

"Ted Frater" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service personnel. Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Afterall the previous posts, lets get back to the original one.
If you had his job could you do better?
Ill come bact to this in a mo.
Yes Im over here and a Brit,
So were eternally grateful for your efforts in 1914/18 and 1939/45
that is why we call it a special relationship.
So when you chose to go to Iraq and Afganistan we were therefor you.
Despite the fact were a fraction of the size of the USA.
Long may it continue.
Now back to "if you had his job"
Your new President has been given a very bitter drink to go with his new
job.
Wars no one wanted, Militant Islam, and a financial meltdown caused by
your Bankers greed.
So how would you deal with these?
Your President is trying veryhard to unite everyone toward solving these
problems so give him a chance to get it right.
If all you can do is complain and havent make any useful suggestions then
shut up.
Your just making his job harder.
Would you want that if you had his job?
Theres only one way to get out of this political and economic mess. Thats
to pull together, work hard, create wealth toward a better future for us
all in the West.
As an afterthought, what you could do with is a Conversion on the road to
Damascus.

Historically, our presidents have sought and taken the job to help the
country and improve living. This one took it to get even. Plain and
simple.

Steve

wrote:

He isn't your presodent? Then get the 77EH out of the country.

He is my President, just not one of my picking. Can I import my arsenal to your country
and move a couple hundred miles further north?

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Larry Jaques wrote:

If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."

Not a chance. Russia wouldn't exist either nor Israel.

Wes

On Apr 4, 10:52*am, "SteveB" wrote:
"Ted Frater" wrote in message

...





SteveB wrote:
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. *For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service personnel. *Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Afterall the previous posts, lets get back to the original one.
If you had his job could you do better?
Ill come bact to this in a mo.
*Yes Im over here and a *Brit,
*So were eternally grateful for your efforts in 1914/18 and 1939/45
that is why we call it a special relationship.
*So when you chose to go to Iraq and Afganistan we were therefor you.
*Despite the fact were a fraction of the size of the USA.
Long may it continue.
Now back to "if you had his job"
Your new President has been given a very bitter drink *to go with his new
job.
Wars no one wanted, Militant Islam, and a financial meltdown caused by
your *Bankers greed.
So how would you deal with these?
*Your President is trying veryhard to unite everyone toward solving these
problems so give him a chance to get it right.
If all you can do is complain and havent make any useful suggestions then
shut up.
Your just making his job harder.
*Would you want that if you had his job?
Theres only one way to get out of this political and economic mess. Thats
to pull together, work hard, create wealth toward a better future for us
all in the West.
As an afterthought, what you could do with is a Conversion on the road to
Damascus.

Historically, our presidents have sought and taken the job to help the
country and improve living. *This one took it to get even. *Plain and
simple.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Huh?

What the hell are you talking about?

The citizens of the United States overwhelmingly voted for Obama.

The People spoke..and they said kick the Republican cancer out.

TMT

On Apr 4, 10:52*am, "SteveB" wrote:
"Ted Frater" wrote in message

...





SteveB wrote:
Going to Europe and apologizing to them for US citizens being "arrogant,
divisive, derisive."

That's rich, especially to a bunch of cowardly Frenchmen who have short
memories, and have forgotten who prevented their national language from
being German. *For a whole continent who we saved.

Keep talking, Hussein.

And keep ****ing on our veteran father's graves, as well as current
service personnel. *Nice Commander in Chief.

Why is there a heavy odor of human feces in the air?

Steve

Afterall the previous posts, lets get back to the original one.
If you had his job could you do better?
Ill come bact to this in a mo.
*Yes Im over here and a *Brit,
*So were eternally grateful for your efforts in 1914/18 and 1939/45
that is why we call it a special relationship.
*So when you chose to go to Iraq and Afganistan we were therefor you.
*Despite the fact were a fraction of the size of the USA.
Long may it continue.
Now back to "if you had his job"
Your new President has been given a very bitter drink *to go with his new
job.
Wars no one wanted, Militant Islam, and a financial meltdown caused by
your *Bankers greed.
So how would you deal with these?
*Your President is trying veryhard to unite everyone toward solving these
problems so give him a chance to get it right.
If all you can do is complain and havent make any useful suggestions then
shut up.
Your just making his job harder.
*Would you want that if you had his job?
Theres only one way to get out of this political and economic mess. Thats
to pull together, work hard, create wealth toward a better future for us
all in the West.
As an afterthought, what you could do with is a Conversion on the road to
Damascus.

Historically, our presidents have sought and taken the job to help the
country and improve living. *This one took it to get even. *Plain and
simple.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Steve...do you even realize that you are making an ass out of
yourself?

I suggest you get some serious mental therapy before we read about you
in the papers...

TMT

3 officers killed in Pittsburgh shooting
By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI, Associated Press Writer Ramit Plushnick-
masti, Associated Press Writer
42 mins ago

PITTSBURGH – Pittsburgh police say a man wearing a bulletproof vest
opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call, killing
three of them.

Police chief Nate Harper says the motive for Saturday's shooting isn't
clear. Friends say the gunman recently had been upset about losing his
job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban
guns.

The three dead officers are Eric Kelly, Stephen Mayhle and Paul
Sciullo III. Kelly had been on the force for 14 years and the other
two only two years each. Another officer was shot in the hand and a
fifth broke his leg on a fence.

The gunman, 23-year-old Richard Poplawski, was arrested after a four-
hour standoff.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further
information. AP's earlier story is below.

PITTSBURGH (AP) — A man opened fire on officers during a domestic
disturbance call Saturday morning, killing three of them, a police
official said. Friends said he recently had been upset about losing
his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban
guns.

Neighbors described how a quiet street in the city's Stanton Heights
neighborhood turned into a battlefield with hundreds of rounds
cracking through the morning air and fallen police officers lying
bleeding in the street, their colleagues unable to reach them.

Three officers were killed, said a police official at the scene who
spoke on condition of anonymity because was not authorized to talk to
the media. Police spokeswoman Diane Richard would only say that at
least five officers were wounded, but wouldn't give any other details.

Friends identified the suspect as Richard Poplawski, 23, but police
would not immediately confirm his name. The gunman was arrested after
a four-hour standoff, police said.

The shooting occurred just two weeks after four police officers were
fatally shot March 21 in Oakland, Calif., in the deadliest day for
U.S. law enforcement since Sept. 11, 2001. The officers were the first
Pittsburgh city officers to die in the line of duty in 18 years.

Neighbors said the shooting began at about 7 a.m. and that two
officers were shot almost immediately.

"When I looked down I saw two police officers laying in the street,"
said Don Sand, who lives across the street and was awoken by the sound
of gunfire.

A short time later, more officers, SWAT teams and other law
enforcement arrived and a third officer was shot, Sand said.

"They couldn't get the scene secure enough to get to them. They were
just lying there bleeding," Sand said. "By the time they secured the
scene enough to get to them it was way too late."

Gail Moschetti, who lives diagonally across the street from the
Poplawski house, said she heard hundreds of shots as she and her
husband took refuge in their basement. Tom Moffitt, 51, a city
firefighter who lives two blocks away, said he came to the scene and
heard "hundreds, just hundreds of shots."

Police planned to release more details at a mid-afternoon news
conference Saturday.

Edward Perkovic said Poplawski, his best friend, feared "the Obama gun
ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed
upon." Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said Poplawski feared that
President Barack Obama was going to take away his rights, though he
said he "wasn't violently against Obama."

Perkovic, 22, said he got a call at work from him in which he said,
"Eddie, I am going to die today. ... Tell your family I love them and
I love you."

Perkovic said: "I heard gunshots and he hung up. ... He sounded like
he was in pain, like he got shot."

Vire, 23, said Poplawski once had an Internet talk show but that it
wasn't successful. Vire said Poplawski had an AK-47 rifle and several
powerful handguns, including a .357 Magnum.

Another friend, Joe DiMarco, said Poplawski had been laid off from his
job at a glass factory earlier this year. DiMarco said he didn't know
the name of the company, but knew his friend had been upset about
losing his job.

The last Pittsburgh police officers killed in the line of duty were
Officers Thomas L. Herron and Joseph J. Grill, according to a Web site
that tracks police killings. They died after their patrol car collided
with another vehicle while chasing a stolen car on March 6, 1991.

According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, 133
law enforcement officers died in the line of duty in 2008, a 27
percent decrease from year before and the lowest annual total since
1960.

Poplawski had often fought with neighbors and had even gotten into
fistfights with a couple, Sand said.

"This is a relatively really quiet neighborhood except for him," Sand
said. "He was just one of those kids that we knew to stay clear
from."

Rob Gift, 45, who lives a block away, said the well-kept single-family
houses with manicured lawns are home to many police officers,
firefighters, paramedics and other city workers.

"It's just a very quiet neighborhood," Gift said.

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:30:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:18:06 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:48:01 -0400, Wes wrote:

Mark Rand wrote:


You do realize that the number of British military deaths in the war were 90%
as high as US deaths and total British deaths were almost 10% higher than
total US deaths. Those numbers are dwarfed by the numbers of Russian deaths.


Correct myself. British Military deaths in WWII were 10% higher than US
military deaths.


I would hope the home team would try a bit harder. I'll leave it there. Many good men
died defending freedom.

Wes


More Canadians have died in Afganistan than Americans and Europeans
combined.


Why? Are most of your lads being shot when driving up to a village
with a casserole and offering to feed the vill?

Guner
No, they are doing the most dangerouas work, in the most dangerous
area (Handahar) of the country - where France, Germany, and the other
Nato countries won't send their people. Like in the second world war,
where the canadians did the dirty work and the yanks got the credit.


"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

Ted Frater wrote:

Afterall the previous posts, lets get back to the original one.
If you had his job could you do better?

For one term, maybe. Given how the house of representitives can change ever two years,
maybe 1/2 a term.


I'll come bact to this in a mo.
Yes Im over here and a Brit,
So were eternally grateful for your efforts in 1914/18 and 1939/45
that is why we call it a special relationship.

A lot of us still think of the UK as the mother country. We still have a war bride (wwII)
in the family, alive and kicking. Aunt Peg. Our gain, your loss.

So when you chose to go to Iraq and Afganistan we were therefor you.
Despite the fact were a fraction of the size of the USA.
Long may it continue.

Hopefully we helped in the Faulklands. The assistance of the UK in many things has always
been appreciated at least by me. Nice to see a friend along side in a dustup.

Now back to "if you had his job"
Your new President has been given a very bitter drink to go with his
new job.

Wars no one wanted, Militant Islam, and a financial meltdown caused by
your Bankers greed.

Militant Islam has been around for a while. Bush took his stand, we await how Obama takes
his stand.

No one sane wants war. War is the destruction of potential and past productivity.

That bankers greed should be coupled with politicans greed. One was enabled by the other.

So how would you deal with these?

Your President is trying veryhard to unite everyone toward solving
these problems so give him a chance to get it right.
If all you can do is complain and havent make any useful suggestions
then shut up.
Your just making his job harder.

I've been rather standoffish giving him time. A bit of feedback though telling him that
that dog doesn't hunt is feedback. I'm sure you are aware of the political practice of
sending up a trial balloon to test the waters. How is those waters tested unless push
back is provided?

Would you want that if you had his job?
Theres only one way to get out of this political and economic mess.
Thats to pull together, work hard, create wealth toward a better future
for us all in the West.

I hope we can figure out how do drive our selves out of the ditch. The EU seems to be
taking the conservative approach. It is really odd when I'm rooting for the EU.

As an afterthought, what you could do with is a Conversion on the road
to Damascus.

I don't grok that.

Wes

On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:55:02 -0400, Wes wrote:

wrote:

He isn't your presodent? Then get the 77EH out of the country.

He is my President, just not one of my picking. Can I import my arsenal to your country
and move a couple hundred miles further north?

Wes

You have to check your arms at the border. That doesn't mean check to
make sure they are still there - it means dump them - leave them
behind.

They say you can just about walk across the Rio Grande, and guns and
wackos are WELCOME down there.

On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:08:57 -0400, wrote:


More Canadians have died in Afganistan than Americans and Europeans
combined.


Why? Are most of your lads being shot when driving up to a village
with a casserole and offering to feed the vill?

Guner
No, they are doing the most dangerouas work, in the most dangerous
area (Handahar) of the country - where France, Germany, and the other
Nato countries won't send their people. Like in the second world war,
where the canadians did the dirty work and the yanks got the credit.

Hummm..you could be right..that Pacific campaign was 4 yrs of nasty
fighting by Canada followed by its dropping the 2 Atom Bombs on Japan.


All those Canadians such brave lads!

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:55:02 -0400, Wes wrote:

wrote:

He isn't your presodent? Then get the 77EH out of the country.

He is my President, just not one of my picking. Can I import my arsenal
to your country
and move a couple hundred miles further north?

Wes

You have to check your arms at the border. That doesn't mean check to
make sure they are still there - it means dump them - leave them
behind.

They say you can just about walk across the Rio Grande, and guns and
wackos are WELCOME down there.

How's the free cardiac care?

wrote:

You have to check your arms at the border. That doesn't mean check to
make sure they are still there - it means dump them - leave them
behind.

Well, don't worry, I won't be your new neighbor.

They say you can just about walk across the Rio Grande, and guns and
wackos are WELCOME down there.

Actually, I watched a guy ride his horse across the Rio Grande in April. I wasn't
impressed by that river I was on a 500 mile bicycling/camping loop near the border.

Wes

Let the Record show that "Buerste" on or about Fri,
3 Apr 2009 22:11:53 -0400 did write/type or cause to appear in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
snip
If we hadn't joined in WWII, would there still -be- a Great Britain? I
doubt I'm alone in "rather doubting it."

I wonder if we would be better off if Germany had won. Hitler and that
philosophy would have passed quickly

Define "quickly".

The same could be said in an alternate universe where the
Bolshevik Soviet Union didn't last "Lenin and that philosophy would
have passed quickly..." where as in this timeline, it passed "quickly"
if you consider 70 years to be a short time.

and good sense would have prevailed and
led the world into peace and prosperity.
...sure beats the socialism we're heading into.

Unfortunately, Hitler lead a party called "The German Worker's
National Socialist Party". A left deviation from the Marxist -
Hegelian idea, much as the Bolshevikiis were a Right deviation. (And
the Trotskyites were even more out of line.)

-
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We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!