"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

Awl --

Looked at my gas bill(s) (natural gas, from ConEd, or, more affectionately,
Conned), and my knees buckled -- not just from the cost, but from the effing
irony of it all.... if I have perceived correckly....

Here's the deal:

I am regularly pounded with pitches from "other energy suppliers", and
figgered, Oh Goody, they must be keeping Conned at least somewhat in check.
NOT.

What appears to be happening is that now the bill is divided into two
portions: The charge for the gas itself, and now, a charge for DELIVERING
the effing gas!!

Which is almost as much as the gas itself!!!! No foolin....

That is called 'Infrastructure' It costs real money to build and maintain.

I'm just realizing this now, cuz Le Wife takes care of the bills, and I
haven't seen a gas bill in about 10 years.

So it seems to me, Conned said, OK, Competition??
Fine.
NOW, we'll just tack on charges for using our own proprietary
*infrastructure*.

Ass, Grass, or cash, nobody rides for free.


IOW, Yeah, you can buy your gas from another energy mutha****a, but NOW you
gotta STILL pay us to allow them to use our pipes'n'****....

And pay you will!!!!!

Do I have it right? Is this what happened?
""Competition"" was enabled, and the effing price consequently
*doubled*????? goodgawd.....

Well as the enviro types ban coal fired plants in favor of NG you are going to experience
the results of supply and demand.

I called Conned, asked for a VP to call me back. I said to the very nice
lady,
Look, I know Conned paid a bunch of Pols to allow this to happen. I
just want to know the names of these Pols....

Majority members of Congress.

Wes

On Feb 20, 4:23*pm, Wes wrote:
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

And pay you will!!!!!



Is the Carbon Tax on there yet??

Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Feb 20, 4:23*pm, Wes wrote:
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

And pay you will!!!!!



Is the Carbon Tax on there yet??

Hold on to your wallet. It is coming or millions of Obama fans are going to be very
upset.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Feb 20, 4:23 pm, Wes wrote:
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

And pay you will!!!!!



Is the Carbon Tax on there yet??

Hold on to your wallet. It is coming or millions of Obama fans are going
to be very
upset.

Wes

I doubt it's coming, but can you explain why you think it's a bad idea?

"ATP*" wrote:


I doubt it's coming, but can you explain why you think it's a bad idea?

Because I don't believe in AGW.

Wes

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:28:18 -0500, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following:

"ATP*" wrote:


I doubt it's coming, but can you explain why you think it's a bad idea?

Because I don't believe in AGW.

....and it's a scam perpetrated by slimy people such our ex VP, Algore.
Algore has openly stated that it's OK to lie to get your agenda
passed.

--
Women and cats will do as they please,

and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.

--Robert A. Heinlein

On Feb 20, 8:34*pm, "ATP*" wrote:

I doubt it's coming, but can you explain why you think it's a bad idea?

I'm carbon and carbon-tax neutral. If you think it's a good idea you
could contribute your fair share voluntarily now,

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 8:34 pm, "ATP*" wrote:

I doubt it's coming, but can you explain why you think it's a bad idea?

I'm carbon and carbon-tax neutral. If you think it's a good idea you
could contribute your fair share voluntarily now,

I think some of the "offsets" are just BS or stuff that would have happened
anyway, so I'm not too excited about a universal carbon tax. I think we
should institute a fuel tax on oil to bring it up to a level that will
encourage conservation and lessen dependence on foreign oil (but not in the
middle of this recession). We should also reform the road taxes to make
diesel more attractive than gasoline. I'd like to get something with a clean
diesel like the VW TDI, but it doesn't make economic sense when diesel is
$2.60 and gasoline is $2.00.

On Feb 20, 3:23*pm, Wes wrote:
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:
Awl --

Looked at my gas bill(s) (natural gas, from ConEd, or, more affectionately,
Conned), and my knees buckled -- not just from the cost, but from the effing
irony of it all.... *if I have perceived correckly....

Here's the deal:

I am regularly pounded with pitches from "other energy suppliers", and
figgered, Oh Goody, they must be keeping Conned at least somewhat in check.
NOT.

What appears to be happening is that now the bill is divided into two
portions: *The charge for the gas itself, and now, a charge for DELIVERING
the effing gas!!

Which is almost as much as the gas itself!!!! * No foolin....

That is called 'Infrastructure' *It costs real money to build and maintain.



I'm just realizing this now, cuz Le Wife takes care of the bills, and I
haven't seen a gas bill in about 10 years.

So it seems to me, *Conned said, OK, Competition??
Fine.
NOW, we'll just tack on charges for using our own proprietary
*infrastructure*.

Ass, Grass, or cash, nobody rides for free.



IOW, Yeah, you can buy your gas from another energy mutha****a, but NOW you
gotta STILL pay us to allow them to use our pipes'n'****....

And pay you will!!!!!

Do I have it right? *Is this what happened?
""Competition"" was enabled, and the effing price consequently
*doubled*????? * *goodgawd.....

Well as the enviro types ban coal fired plants in favor of NG you are going to experience
the results of supply and demand. *



I called Conned, asked for a VP to call me back. *I said to the very nice
lady,
* * Look, I know Conned paid a bunch of Pols to allow this to happen. *I
just want to know the names of these Pols....

Majority members of Congress.

Wes- Hide quoted text -

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LOL...and you thought electing an oil man for President wouldn't cost
you anything.

Stupid, stupid Neocons.

TMT

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Proctologically Violated©®" wrote:

Awl --

Looked at my gas bill(s) (natural gas, from ConEd, or, more
affectionately,
Conned), and my knees buckled -- not just from the cost, but from the
effing
irony of it all.... if I have perceived correckly....

Here's the deal:

I am regularly pounded with pitches from "other energy suppliers", and
figgered, Oh Goody, they must be keeping Conned at least somewhat in
check.
NOT.

What appears to be happening is that now the bill is divided into two
portions: The charge for the gas itself, and now, a charge for DELIVERING
the effing gas!!

Which is almost as much as the gas itself!!!! No foolin....

That is called 'Infrastructure' It costs real money to build and
maintain.

I'm just realizing this now, cuz Le Wife takes care of the bills, and I
haven't seen a gas bill in about 10 years.

So it seems to me, Conned said, OK, Competition??
Fine.
NOW, we'll just tack on charges for using our own proprietary
*infrastructure*.

Ass, Grass, or cash, nobody rides for free.


IOW, Yeah, you can buy your gas from another energy mutha****a, but NOW
you
gotta STILL pay us to allow them to use our pipes'n'****....

And pay you will!!!!!

Do I have it right? Is this what happened?
""Competition"" was enabled, and the effing price consequently
*doubled*????? goodgawd.....

Well as the enviro types ban coal fired plants in favor of NG you are
going to experience
the results of supply and demand.

I called Conned, asked for a VP to call me back. I said to the very nice
lady,
Look, I know Conned paid a bunch of Pols to allow this to happen. I
just want to know the names of these Pols....

Majority members of Congress.

Stupid me....

Actually, there may not be the logical conundrum I posited.

It would appear that it isn't just "competition drives prices up", which IS
pretty illogical, but rather, "competition under deregulation" causing
higher prices than a "monopoly under regulation".

I guess we've learned, repeatedly, which is worse.

Con Ed did in fact call me back, had an inneresting conversation.
Of course they didn't outright concede anything, but they didn't dispute
much, either.

They did concede that deregulation certainly was not in the consumer's best
interest, and that their "energy competitors" were, by and large, scam
artists. Which you would figger ConEd might say, but I have independent
evidence for this being true.

--

Mr. PV'd

Mae West (yer fav Congressman) to the Gangster (yer fav Lobbyist):
Hey, Big Boy, is that a wad (of cash) in yer pocket, or are you just
glad to see me??




Wes