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OT - God, then and now
Sorry for another OT post but I think this one could be interesting to some
on here. I have noticed in many discussions on this newsgroup people stating things like the miracles in the Bible not being possible because they defy the laws of physics, etc. One example is that people say the flood of Noah is impossible because there is not enough water on Earth to make a global flood possible. A basic ability of God is to create something from nothing or multiplying something. God's ability to create and multiply the physical is not new and not outdated. This is reported to happen many times in the Bible. Some examples are the flood of Noah, a lamp that wouldn't run out of oil, food that wouldn't run out, etc. A new testament example is Jesus feeding 5000 men plus women and children with only a few fish and loaves. Yes, I know that this isn't possible, that's why it's a miracle. The kicker is that these kinds of things still happen today. There have been occasions that people had a need to travel but no fuel, and through trusting God they have driven hundreds of miles without fuel. Another instance I read about on the web is when some folks had no fuel oil for heat, they prayed, their heat came back on and got them through without fuel. I know this isn't the same as creating something from nothing but God has also provided for people in their times of need. Here's one that happened within the last month. A few years ago my Mom lost her job when the cleaners that she was a seamstress at closed down. She's been doing alterations from her home and getting a little on retirement. She never made much money, I think she got up to $8/hr before the cleaners closed. Anyway, last month she had a slow month and only made $85 for the month. Then she got over $2400 in the mail from a back tax return from a few years ago when the cleaners closed. What's the chance of having your worst month financially and getting a check from years past taxes in October? These kind of occurrences aren't every day but they are fairly common. Another thing that "just worked out" is that after my wife lost her job, I needed 4 hours a week overtime to meet my budget. My new position at work needed me to work an extra 8 hours every other week. Wow, just what my budget needed. As my wife's unemployment ran out, my position changed to where more overtime was available and I have been able to replace what she lost with just a few extra hours per week. Anyway, the availability of overtime and my loss of family income, and need for the overtime, has coincided perfectly. This isn't nowhere near the best I've experienced but it's more recent than other things. Anyway, it just seems funny that some people are arguing the existance of God while others are experiencing miracles, up to and including God raising people from the dead, on a somewhat regular basis (miracles on a somewhat regular basis, not God raising the dead on a regular basis). It's about like someone that doesn't know what they are talking about in the metalworking realm saying metal can't be cut. In other words, don't base your knowledge of God on what an Athiest tells you, ask the best example of a believer you can find why they believe in God. Or ask a missionary if they have ever seen any miracles, or what's the most convincing miracle they've seen. RogerN |