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Drilling lubrication
My new drill press has all kinds of cool features I never had before. One of
them is a bottle with a control-flow spout to run lubricating fluid while drilling. Many years ago I used water mixed with light mineral oil, dripping it onto stuff manually. More recently I have been just applying Rapid Tap from time to time (generally I have not been drilling big holes). What does everyone use these days? Specifically, given the ability of continuous flow of lubricant and its collection under the table (and recycling??). -- Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC |
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Drilling lubrication
They sell a water soluble oil just for this purpose. The oil prevents
rusting of the iron, and the water cools better than straight oil. Some systems use compresses air to mist the solution other systems flood cool and circulate the fluid. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "Michael Koblic" wrote in message rvecommunications... My new drill press has all kinds of cool features I never had before. One of them is a bottle with a control-flow spout to run lubricating fluid while drilling. Many years ago I used water mixed with light mineral oil, dripping it onto stuff manually. More recently I have been just applying Rapid Tap from time to time (generally I have not been drilling big holes). What does everyone use these days? Specifically, given the ability of continuous flow of lubricant and its collection under the table (and recycling??). -- Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC |
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Drilling lubrication
Interesting.
"Water-soluble oil" sounds almost an oxymoron. Do you have any trade names? Also, a supplementary question: Is there any benefit in keeping the cooling fluid as cool as possible? By that I mean for instance dropping ice cubes into the container prior to starting drilling? "Roger Shoaf" wrote in message ... They sell a water soluble oil just for this purpose. The oil prevents rusting of the iron, and the water cools better than straight oil. Some systems use compresses air to mist the solution other systems flood cool and circulate the fluid. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "Michael Koblic" wrote in message rvecommunications... My new drill press has all kinds of cool features I never had before. One of them is a bottle with a control-flow spout to run lubricating fluid while drilling. Many years ago I used water mixed with light mineral oil, dripping it onto stuff manually. More recently I have been just applying Rapid Tap from time to time (generally I have not been drilling big holes). What does everyone use these days? Specifically, given the ability of continuous flow of lubricant and its collection under the table (and recycling??). -- Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC |
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munications, "Michael Koblic" wrote: Interesting. "Water-soluble oil" sounds almost an oxymoron. Do you have any trade names? Rustlick WS-5050 is what I use. MSC et al sell it in one gallon containers, and one gallon makes 15 or 20 gallons of emulsion. The key is detergent. That's what allows the oil to emulsify into water. Also, a supplementary question: Is there any benefit in keeping the cooling fluid as cool as possible? By that I mean for instance dropping ice cubes into the container prior to starting drilling? The cooling is to keep the metal at the cutting point from achieving welding temperatures, so any reasonable fluid will do (compared to air). Oil is traditional, but messy. Water has a particularly high heat capacity, even before it boils. The combination works very well. So don't bother with the ice cubes. Joe Gwinn "Roger Shoaf" wrote in message ... They sell a water soluble oil just for this purpose. The oil prevents rusting of the iron, and the water cools better than straight oil. Some systems use compresses air to mist the solution other systems flood cool and circulate the fluid. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "Michael Koblic" wrote in message rvecommunications... My new drill press has all kinds of cool features I never had before. One of them is a bottle with a control-flow spout to run lubricating fluid while drilling. Many years ago I used water mixed with light mineral oil, dripping it onto stuff manually. More recently I have been just applying Rapid Tap from time to time (generally I have not been drilling big holes). What does everyone use these days? Specifically, given the ability of continuous flow of lubricant and its collection under the table (and recycling??). -- Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC |
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On Jun 21, 12:52*am, "Michael Koblic" wrote:
... More recently I have been just applying Rapid Tap from time to time (generally I have not been drilling big holes). What does everyone use these days? Specifically, given the ability of continuous flow of lubricant and its collection under the table (and recycling??). Michael Koblic, I use as little as I can get away with to avoid cleanup. This afternoon the channel iron drilled nicely dry, the welded hot-rolled steel under it wanted oil and the tap received fancy tapping fluid. The rest of the holes all got the tapping fluid for drilling as well. The job is a sheet metal brake and cutting oil might get onto the window flashing I'm making. http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL When I write that a tool 'wanted' something it means experience shows how well it is cutting. I got that experience by starting dry, then adding oil, then tapping fluid and observing the differences in chips, handle pressure, machine sounds, bit & work heating, how fast it dulled, and so on. Put a little oil on the bit and watch for subtle changes when it's gone. If you are drilling a few holes at a moderate spindle speed, cutting oil or coolant isn't really necessary. Jim Wilkins |
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"Robert Swinney" wrote in message ... Yeah. Whyn't keep a 100 lb. block of ice next to the vise on your drill press table. You could drill into it to cool those bits off nicely. You are kidding, right? How am I gonna keep the beer cool if the block is melting all over the shop floor? That would not do at all! I suppose one could save up all the drilling for Saturdays and use the left-over ice sculpture from all the gay weddings... |
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