Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/

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Hit send too quickly.

This is a Champion compressor, the motor is 5 HP single phase Baldor,
it seems as though the oil was possibly never changed in it at all (it
would show signs of that near the oil drain, I think), the compressor
was likely made in 1965, the tank looks like 60 gallons.

Also the pump itself, I think is a 10 HP pump, the 5 HP Baldor looks
like an afterthought. I cannot believe that this 2 stage, 4 cylinder
pump was made to go only to 5 HP.

Possibly someone tried to install this Baldor and failed to get it
right and then this compressor made some rounds around a few people's
garages or stayed in same garage. That would be the best scenario.

The worst scenario is that the pump is bad in some way or that the
motor is bad.

The compressor has its starter removed , and lacks a gauge and
regulator switch. I have that stuff in my pile of stuff. So we'll see
how it goes.

I took some risk on it but I think that $25 is not too much to pay for
an educational experience.

i

On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/


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5 HP Single phase Baldor motor buzzes loudly, does not run.

i

On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/

Hmm ... looks like the motor nameplate says 1 phase -- but it
also says 25 Amps, which will make it difficult to run from the average
outlet. :-)

I think that you got a deal,
DoN.

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"Ignoramus29659" wrote in message
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Hit send too quickly.

This is a Champion compressor, the motor is 5 HP single phase Baldor,
it seems as though the oil was possibly never changed in it at all (it
would show signs of that near the oil drain, I think), the compressor
was likely made in 1965, the tank looks like 60 gallons.

Also the pump itself, I think is a 10 HP pump, the 5 HP Baldor looks
like an afterthought. I cannot believe that this 2 stage, 4 cylinder
pump was made to go only to 5 HP.

Possibly someone tried to install this Baldor and failed to get it
right and then this compressor made some rounds around a few people's
garages or stayed in same garage. That would be the best scenario.

The worst scenario is that the pump is bad in some way or that the
motor is bad.

The compressor has its starter removed , and lacks a gauge and
regulator switch. I have that stuff in my pile of stuff. So we'll see
how it goes.

I took some risk on it but I think that $25 is not too much to pay for
an educational experience.

i

On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/


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You might want to check the tank for rust on the inside. Being ove 40 years
old
the tank may be rusted out from the inside. I bought a compressor once that
had
that problem, the original owner left it sitting a long time without
draining the tank.
When i started it up there were pin holes all along the bottom of the tank.
Might save
you a lot of time and expense to stick a bore scope in one of the inspection
ports.

Best Regards
Tom.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:06:20 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus29659 quickly quoth:

Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/

The motor tag says 5hp 250V 60Hz 25A 1PH.
Good snag.

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:15:33 -0500, Ignoramus29659
wrote:

Hit send too quickly.

This is a Champion compressor, the motor is 5 HP single phase Baldor,
it seems as though the oil was possibly never changed in it at all (it
would show signs of that near the oil drain, I think), the compressor
was likely made in 1965, the tank looks like 60 gallons.

Also the pump itself, I think is a 10 HP pump, the 5 HP Baldor looks
like an afterthought. I cannot believe that this 2 stage, 4 cylinder
pump was made to go only to 5 HP.

We had a similar pump on a bigger tank at my former employers. It
had a 7.5hp 3 phase motor on it.

Possibly someone tried to install this Baldor and failed to get it
right and then this compressor made some rounds around a few people's
garages or stayed in same garage. That would be the best scenario.

The worst scenario is that the pump is bad in some way or that the
motor is bad.

The compressor has its starter removed , and lacks a gauge and
regulator switch. I have that stuff in my pile of stuff. So we'll see
how it goes.

I took some risk on it but I think that $25 is not too much to pay for
an educational experience.

i

On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/

On 2008-06-14, Wayne Cook wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:15:33 -0500, Ignoramus29659
wrote:

Hit send too quickly.

This is a Champion compressor, the motor is 5 HP single phase Baldor,
it seems as though the oil was possibly never changed in it at all (it
would show signs of that near the oil drain, I think), the compressor
was likely made in 1965, the tank looks like 60 gallons.

Also the pump itself, I think is a 10 HP pump, the 5 HP Baldor looks
like an afterthought. I cannot believe that this 2 stage, 4 cylinder
pump was made to go only to 5 HP.

We had a similar pump on a bigger tank at my former employers. It
had a 7.5hp 3 phase motor on it.

You would not recall what size motor pulley was on it? Looks similar?

Anyway Wayne, I don't know if you saw my other threads, but I will
keep trying a few things as I already got some hopeful results (motor
spins the pump, but only slowly). I will bring it closer to power plug
so that there is less voltage drop, to see at least 240v on motor
terminals.

The pulley seems smaller than it could have been. That gives me some
hope.

i

Possibly someone tried to install this Baldor and failed to get it
right and then this compressor made some rounds around a few people's
garages or stayed in same garage. That would be the best scenario.

The worst scenario is that the pump is bad in some way or that the
motor is bad.

The compressor has its starter removed , and lacks a gauge and
regulator switch. I have that stuff in my pile of stuff. So we'll see
how it goes.

I took some risk on it but I think that $25 is not too much to pay for
an educational experience.

i

On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
Condition is compltely unknown but it is hard to go wrong for $25.

The guy said, true or not, that he could not figure out how to wire
it. He said it may have been 3 phase.

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Champion-Compressor/


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Ignoramus29659 wrote:
5 HP Single phase Baldor motor buzzes loudly, does not run.

i


Check it with no load and then check to see if the compressor pulley
turns freely before putting the belt back on. If you already know to do
this, please disregard the post. :-)

Jim

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:06:02 -0500, Ignoramus20633
wrote:

On 2008-06-14, Wayne Cook wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:15:33 -0500, Ignoramus29659
wrote:

Hit send too quickly.

This is a Champion compressor, the motor is 5 HP single phase Baldor,
it seems as though the oil was possibly never changed in it at all (it
would show signs of that near the oil drain, I think), the compressor
was likely made in 1965, the tank looks like 60 gallons.

Also the pump itself, I think is a 10 HP pump, the 5 HP Baldor looks
like an afterthought. I cannot believe that this 2 stage, 4 cylinder
pump was made to go only to 5 HP.

We had a similar pump on a bigger tank at my former employers. It
had a 7.5hp 3 phase motor on it.

You would not recall what size motor pulley was on it? Looks similar?

Anyway Wayne, I don't know if you saw my other threads, but I will
keep trying a few things as I already got some hopeful results (motor
spins the pump, but only slowly). I will bring it closer to power plug
so that there is less voltage drop, to see at least 240v on motor
terminals.

I don't remember any details unfortunately. The pump looks about the
same though.

The pulley seems smaller than it could have been. That gives me some
hope.

Yep. You'll just have to check it when you get it running. If it
draws to many amps then you need a bigger motor.
\

On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
5 HP Single phase Baldor motor buzzes loudly, does not run.

1) bad start capacitor

2) Bad centrifugal switch (stuck open)

3) Bad start winding.

Does it start if you spin it with a rope just prior to switching
power to it?

Is this on the compressor? If so, have you tried with the belt
disconnected to eliminate a stuck compressor itself?

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On 2008-06-15, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
5 HP Single phase Baldor motor buzzes loudly, does not run.

1) bad start capacitor

2) Bad centrifugal switch (stuck open)

3) Bad start winding.

Does it start if you spin it with a rope just prior to switching
power to it?

Is this on the compressor? If so, have you tried with the belt
disconnected to eliminate a stuck compressor itself?


The issue was two things, bad starting winding contacts (needed
cleaning), and bad starting caps. I replaced them, cleaned contacts,
and the motor runs strong.

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On 2008-06-15, Ignoramus20633 wrote:
On 2008-06-15, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2008-06-14, Ignoramus29659 wrote:
5 HP Single phase Baldor motor buzzes loudly, does not run.

1) bad start capacitor

2) Bad centrifugal switch (stuck open)

3) Bad start winding.

Does it start if you spin it with a rope just prior to switching
power to it?

Is this on the compressor? If so, have you tried with the belt
disconnected to eliminate a stuck compressor itself?


The issue was two things, bad starting winding contacts (needed
cleaning), and bad starting caps. I replaced them, cleaned contacts,
and the motor runs strong.

Great!

Enjoy,
DoN.

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