On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
wrote:



And that is my point and always has been...if you cannot or will not
self regulate the Government will be happy to do it for you.

TMT

Just as they do so effectively now for distribution, sale and
possession of illegal drugs, eh?

You're about two decades behind the times, circa the Brady Bill.
Wal-Mart's sucking up to Bloomberg notwithstanding, the trend now is
for individual empowerment. More and more Americans are deciding that
while they may not especially like guns, we're deciding that being
defenseless is not acceptable if the gummint is unable to keep us safe
from armed criminals.

You might think about shifting your focus to crusading for the
prohibition of demon rum.

Don Foreman fired this volley in
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You're about two decades behind the times, circa the Brady Bill.
Wal-Mart's sucking up to Bloomberg notwithstanding, the trend now is
for individual empowerment. More and more Americans are deciding that
while they may not especially like guns, we're deciding that being
defenseless is not acceptable if the gummint is unable to keep us safe
from armed criminals.


AND to that end, Don, Florida just passed the "guns in the workplace" law
that now allows people to travel to and from work protected by the
weapons they're already licensed to conceal and carry, without worrying
that their employer might be a nanny-state liberal who'll fire them for
bringing a gun "onto the property".

That doesn't mean you can bring it into the building, necessarily, but at
least you can have it with you while you travel.

Maybe the noose isn't quite as tight as the OP suggests.

LLoyd

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:13:37 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Don Foreman fired this volley in
:
You're about two decades behind the times, circa the Brady Bill.
Wal-Mart's sucking up to Bloomberg notwithstanding, the trend now is
for individual empowerment. More and more Americans are deciding that
while they may not especially like guns, we're deciding that being
defenseless is not acceptable if the gummint is unable to keep us safe
from armed criminals.


AND to that end, Don, Florida just passed the "guns in the workplace" law
that now allows people to travel to and from work protected by the
weapons they're already licensed to conceal and carry, without worrying
that their employer might be a nanny-state liberal who'll fire them for
bringing a gun "onto the property".

That doesn't mean you can bring it into the building, necessarily, but at
least you can have it with you while you travel.

Maybe the noose isn't quite as tight as the OP suggests.

LLoyd

I think if anything it's getting looser. Looks like that worries the
hell out of the OP. Society is us, and we are reluctantly but
steadily moving toward accepting more responsibility for our own
safety. Let the nannies who need a senior activity run the condo
associations and tell others what kinds of bushes they may plant.

On Apr 16, 6:24*pm, Don Foreman wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools

wrote:

And that is my point and always has been...if you cannot or will not
self regulate the Government will be happy to do it for you.

TMT

Just as they do so effectively now for distribution, sale and
possession of illegal drugs, eh? *

You're about two decades behind the times, circa the Brady Bill.
Wal-Mart's sucking up to Bloomberg notwithstanding, the trend now is
for individual empowerment. *More and more Americans are deciding that
while they may not especially like guns, we're deciding that being
defenseless is not acceptable if the gummint is unable to keep us safe
from armed criminals. *

You might think about shifting your focus to crusading for the
prohibition of demon rum. *

But I like demon rum... ;)

No ...Walmart is doing what it is doing to make profits.

At many stores it has stopped selling guns...too much liability.

This current move is to do what the government and the progun crowd
has been unable to do...track guns and their owners.

TMT

On Apr 17, 5:13*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Don Foreman fired this volley :

You're about two decades behind the times, circa the Brady Bill.
Wal-Mart's sucking up to Bloomberg notwithstanding, the trend now is
for individual empowerment. *More and more Americans are deciding that
while they may not especially like guns, we're deciding that being
defenseless is not acceptable if the gummint is unable to keep us safe
from armed criminals. *

AND to that end, Don, Florida just passed the "guns in the workplace" law
that now allows people to travel to and from work protected by the
weapons they're already licensed to conceal and carry, without worrying
that their employer might be a nanny-state liberal who'll fire them for
bringing a gun "onto the property".

That doesn't mean you can bring it into the building, necessarily, but at
least you can have it with you while you travel.

Maybe the noose isn't quite as tight as the OP suggests.

LLoyd

Yeah...I hear the bad guys in Florida are overjoyed knowing that they
can stop and pick up their daily quota of guns from any company
parking lot now.

TMT

On Apr 17, 5:13*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Don Foreman fired this volley :

You're about two decades behind the times, circa the Brady Bill.
Wal-Mart's sucking up to Bloomberg notwithstanding, the trend now is
for individual empowerment. *More and more Americans are deciding that
while they may not especially like guns, we're deciding that being
defenseless is not acceptable if the gummint is unable to keep us safe
from armed criminals. *

AND to that end, Don, Florida just passed the "guns in the workplace" law
that now allows people to travel to and from work protected by the
weapons they're already licensed to conceal and carry, without worrying
that their employer might be a nanny-state liberal who'll fire them for
bringing a gun "onto the property".

That doesn't mean you can bring it into the building, necessarily, but at
least you can have it with you while you travel.

Maybe the noose isn't quite as tight as the OP suggests.

LLoyd

LOL...the noose is tighter than ever.

And it is because we the gun owners have failed to self police
ourselves.

TMT