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I spend it ...

Where I make it ...

Millwright Ron
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So what do you buy in a septic tank???

Gunner


"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Millwright Ron
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I spend it ...

Where I make it ...

Millwright Ron
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So what do you buy in a septic tank???



That's where he got his union card. OTOH, he's too stupid to know
there are union newsgroups.

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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Millwright Ron
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I spend it ...


Where I make it ...


Millwright Ron
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So what do you buy in a septic tank???


* *That's where he got his union card. *OTOH, he's too stupid to know
there are union newsgroups. *

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So terrell the little boy lover speaks again.

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So terrell the little boy lover speaks again.



The repartee of a union slug...


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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Millwright Ron
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I spend it ...


Where I make it ...


Millwright Ron
www.unionmillwright.com


So what do you buy in a septic tank???



Terrell Turds


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On Apr 12, 6:37*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Millwright Ron
wrote:


Try this philosophy:


I spend it ...


Where I make it ...


Millwright Ron
www.unionmillwright.com


So what do you buy in a septic tank???



Terrell Turds


So what are you doing swimming in Terrel Turds?

Dont have enough sense to get out of the "water"?

Gunner



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there are union newsgroups. *

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"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr
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Terrell Turds


So what are you doing swimming in Terrell Turds?

Dont have enough sense to get out of the "water"?



They must remind him of all the turds he worked with, in those closed
shops. Once a union turd, always a union turd.


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On Apr 12, 5:40*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Millwright Ron

wrote:
Try this philosophy:


I spend it ...


Where I make it ...


Millwright Ron
www.unionmillwright.com


So what do you buy in a septic tank???

Gunner

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron



So you do not believe in supporting your local economy?????


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So what do you buy in a septic tank???

Gunner



So you do not believe in supporting your local economy?????

I don't think he said that at all...

....I think he's just a little more than a little tired of your constant
dribbling/foaming at the mouth.

As to your original statement about spending it where you make it, I trust
that means that you'll be giving up your computer and your TV and toaster
and, well, you get the point.

Or maybe you don't...I'll spell it out for you...

THEY DON'T MAKE THEM HERE ANYMORE

Why?

Among other things, the unions priced themselves out of jobs by demanding
more for the job than it was worth.

Mike




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I spend it ...


Where I make it ...


Millwright Ron
www.unionmillwright.com


So what do you buy in a septic tank???

Gunner



So you do not believe in supporting your local economy?????

I don't think he said that at all...

...I think he's just a little more than a little tired of your constant
dribbling/foaming at the mouth.

As to your original statement about spending it where you make it, I trust
that means that you'll be giving up your computer and your TV and toaster
and, well, you get the point.

Or maybe you don't...I'll spell it out for you...

THEY DON'T MAKE THEM HERE ANYMORE

Why?

Among other things, the unions priced themselves out of jobs by demanding
more for the job than it was worth.

Mike


And what's it worth, Mike? The Chinese charge $0.80/hour. Is that what it's
worth?

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So what do you buy in a septic tank???

Gunner



So you do not believe in supporting your local economy?????

I don't think he said that at all...

...I think he's just a little more than a little tired of your constant
dribbling/foaming at the mouth.

As to your original statement about spending it where you make it, I
trust that means that you'll be giving up your computer and your TV and
toaster and, well, you get the point.

Or maybe you don't...I'll spell it out for you...

THEY DON'T MAKE THEM HERE ANYMORE

Why?

Among other things, the unions priced themselves out of jobs by demanding
more for the job than it was worth.

Mike


And what's it worth, Mike? The Chinese charge $0.80/hour. Is that what
it's worth?

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I'm not trying to say that the jobs should only be worth $0.80 an hour.

I do believe that the $35.00 PLUS to start that they get at the local GM
plant to bolt a freaking bumper on a truck is just a TAD bit out of line.
Can you say that the craft that I've worked at learning for the last 35
years or so is worth less than what it takes to drive a few bolts? GM, Ford
and the UAW seem to think so.

Mike


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Among other things, the unions priced themselves out of jobs by demanding
more for the job than it was worth.

Mike


And what's it worth, Mike? The Chinese charge $0.80/hour. Is that what it's
worth?
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The basic three factors in the cost of a good or service a Price, quality and
service. If the good or service is of the correct quality, meaning that is
fulfills the requirements, and the service also is acceptable then the price
becomes the determining factor. If the Chinese place a good in the market that
fulfills the market's need, the "worth" of that good is exactly what the market
pays for it. But, that doesn't translate to setting the cost of labor. You
can't make that claim Ed. What sets the cost of the $.80/hr. labor is that's
what the market for labor in China is in that region, at that time.


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On Apr 12, 5:40*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Millwright Ron

wrote:
Try this philosophy:


I spend it ...


Where I make it ...


Millwright Ron
www.unionmillwright.com


So what do you buy in a septic tank???

Gunner

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron



So you do not believe in supporting your local economy?????


Of course I do, Ronron. I buy as much stuff from the local stores as
possible and avoid the big box stores when reasonable.

Of course, none of them are Union, so that makes it a twofer.

Gunner




"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr
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St. Peter hear you calling me by I can't go, I owe my soul to the company
store....


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Millwright Ron wrote:

I spend it ...

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St. Peter hear you calling me by I can't go, I owe my soul to the company
store....




Ron wants to meet up with all his union buddies when he dies, so
he'll have to go to hell for the reunion. That is convenient for him,
too, because the head offices for 'the company store' is there.


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