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If you have a vacation house in Florida, you may soon need a submarine
to visit it.


But on the bright side, Florida will quit screwing up elections
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Ignoramus13009 wrote:

If you have a vacation house in Florida, you may soon need a submarine
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But on the bright side, Florida will quit screwing up elections



It's all the idiots that move here from up north that screw it up.


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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:44:43 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
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Ignoramus13009 wrote:

If you have a vacation house in Florida, you may soon need a submarine
to visit it.


But on the bright side, Florida will quit screwing up elections


Did you guys forget? FACT: Most icebergs and shelves, plus the vast
majority of the Arctic region, are already displacing all the water
they're going to, so even if they melt completely, there will be ZERO
change in the sea level.

As to Florida, one can only hope.

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:44:43 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Ignoramus13009 wrote:

If you have a vacation house in Florida, you may soon need a submarine
to visit it.


But on the bright side, Florida will quit screwing up elections


Did you guys forget? FACT: Most icebergs and shelves, plus the vast
majority of the Arctic region, are already displacing all the water
they're going to, so even if they melt completely, there will be ZERO
change in the sea level.

As to Florida, one can only hope.

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I'm not sure its that simple:
1) What about thermal expansion causing the rise rather than the added
"melted ice"?
2) What if the ice that enters the water was coupled to land rather than
floating - surely this would increase depth?



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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:44:43 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Ignoramus13009 wrote:

If you have a vacation house in Florida, you may soon need a submarine
to visit it.

But on the bright side, Florida will quit screwing up elections


Did you guys forget? FACT: Most icebergs and shelves, plus the vast
majority of the Arctic region, are already displacing all the water
they're going to, so even if they melt completely, there will be ZERO
change in the sea level.


I'm not sure its that simple:
1) What about thermal expansion causing the rise rather than the added
"melted ice"?
2) What if the ice that enters the water was coupled to land rather than
floating - surely this would increase depth?


Yes, it's complex and I don't know all the facets, as I'm sure all the
researchers are still grappling with finding them. Add the fact that
Mother Nature is taking care of Earth, too. While the shelf is
breaking off one side of Antarctica, the depth of snowpack on the
other 90% is increasing. Where it melts in one section of the ocean,
it builds on land elsewhere. She is no dummy. Just man is. First, for
spewing all that crap into the atmosphere, second for the arrogance to
think that any global change is all his fault. Third for doing the
wrong things about it after the two other mistakes. Kyoto Protocol is
about as effective as a limp dick and an unwilling lady friend. It's
all about controlling power, and we're not talking Utilities here,
folks. Algore stands to make millions on the carbon credit scam alone.
Feh!

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Den wrote:

I'm not sure its that simple:
1) What about thermal expansion causing the rise rather than the added
"melted ice"?


How much do yo think water, in liquid form, expands?


2) What if the ice that enters the water was coupled to land rather than
floating - surely this would increase depth?



Exactly how much of the ice is over land? What is the exact median
thickness of that ice?


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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:20:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Den wrote:

I'm not sure its that simple:
1) What about thermal expansion causing the rise rather than the added
"melted ice"?


How much do yo think water, in liquid form, expands?



Ah! Now this explains why all those glasses, left over from the
party, overflowed onto the floor as the ice melted.

Or not...

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:20:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Den wrote:

I'm not sure its that simple:
1) What about thermal expansion causing the rise rather than the added
"melted ice"?


How much do yo think water, in liquid form, expands?


Ah! Now this explains why all those glasses, left over from the
party, overflowed onto the floor as the ice melted.

Or not...

G

Gunner



Only if you don't need a snorkel, and glass belly button. Their only
advantage is that they'll never need a colonoscopy, because their heads
are lodged so tight, they prevent any buildup of other crap.


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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:52:10 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:20:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Den wrote:

I'm not sure its that simple:
1) What about thermal expansion causing the rise rather than the added
"melted ice"?


How much do yo think water, in liquid form, expands?



Ah! Now this explains why all those glasses, left over from the
party, overflowed onto the floor as the ice melted.

Or not...

G


I hadn't paid quite enough attention to his theory. _Ice_ expands a
bit, not water. The OP was bassackwards.

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