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Pisano wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:37:13 -0800, David Friedman wrote: In article , Pisano wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:42:13 -0800, David Friedman wrote: In article , Pisano wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:58:21 -0800, David Friedman wrote: In article , Crowfoot wrote: I would have thought that most Ron Paul supporters believed in freedom of the press, not of having government tell the press how much they had to cover of whom. Are you sure you aren't a McCain supporter? One way to try to curb the enormous burgeoning of spending on campaigns is the limiting of TV exposure to the same amount for every candidate, which would ... There are certainly arguments for limitations of one sort or another, although I'm not sure I find them convincing. My point was that McCain is a prominent supporter of campaign expenditure limits, I suspect (although don't know for certain) that Ron Paul is a strong opponent, and the poster was a Paul supporter arguing for them. Where did I ever do that? Cite, please. When you wrote: Also needed is a scheme to insure that ALL candidates on the ballot are guaranteed an equal amount of coverage in the mainstream media, without having to rely upon the consent of the media to allow only those with deep pockets to be heard. And just how do you read that as arguing for expenditure limits? In order to get an equal amount of coverage, you either need to forbid some candidates from buying more air time than others, or subsidize whoever would otherwise buy less. Considering what I wrote following that (which was snipped): It is a matter of utmost importance to the security of the nation and due process for all. Those factors should override the rights of the private business interests who run the media corporations because the very survival of our constitutional government completely depends upon the public's ability as a whole to descern and then elect leaders we can trust to follow the rule of law. Or in other words, like McCain, you think that the national interest requires restrictions on publicity for candidates. If our personal liberties can be so easily traded for so-called "security" from the farce of threats from invisible boogy men, then certainly the media can contribute time, or our taxes can certainly pay for, such an equal time requirement. It is simply the right thing to do. I was clearly saying that time should be provided by the media, either free of charge, or paid for with public funding. In order to get equal coverage of all, you must not only fund the people who otherwise wouldn't get much coverage, you must also forbid other candidates from spending their own money to get even more coverage. Or is your proposal that we first find out which candidate wants to buy the most television time, and then offer the same amount of time for free (i.e. paid for by tax money or provided for free by broadcasters compelled to do so) to all the others? I don't think any version of such a proposal is consistent with either Ron Paul's general principles or his stated views on the subject. Much closer to McCain. You're clearly supporting the wrong candidate--or, to put it differently, you sound as though you don't understand Ron Paul's position very well. He isn't strong on overriding private rights because of what someone thinks is the national interest. I want them to all have equal time. How that is achieved would have to be worked out. But one issue does not a candidate make. Ron Paul is, in my opinion, a very wise man, and a highly respectable candidate, who is wholly correct in light of the total package. He is a constitutionalist, and American government has always been, or should always be, grounded in constitutional principles. If it isn't, then it would soon cease to be America. I understand that the changes he proposes can not, and will not be made overnight, but I trust and respect him far more than the others, and accept his platform as stated here as the best chance we have for beneficial change, and the restoration of our great republic: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/ Hear hear! I will vote for Ron Paul when i have the opportunity, starting with next Tuesday here in TX |
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