I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !
Full description here, http://www.hoatu.fr/bestofwww/TheMos...ntheWorld.html
Impressive !

First, it's a helluva big toy. It pleases me greatly.

What of the German modular construction big whoppin' diesel? I saw it
on the History channel or the Discovery channel.

eva wrote:
I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !
Full description here, http://www.hoatu.fr/bestofwww/TheMos...ntheWorld.html
Impressive !

eva wrote:
I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !
Full description here, http://www.hoatu.fr/bestofwww/TheMos...ntheWorld.html
Impressive !

I'm still waiting for someone go put it into a motorcycle.

Wayne

eva wrote:

I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !
Full description here, http://www.hoatu.fr/bestofwww/TheMos...ntheWorld.html
Impressive !

Yep saw it back quite a while on one of the metalworking BBs.
Some engine. Installing it must be FUN!!!
...lew...

On Nov 30, 8:42 am, eva wrote:
I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !


Unbelievable.

Now THAT'S metalworking.

Lew Hartswick wrote:
eva wrote:

I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !
Full description here,
http://www.hoatu.fr/bestofwww/TheMos...ntheWorld.html
Impressive !


Yep saw it back quite a while on one of the metalworking BBs.
Some engine. Installing it must be FUN!!!
...lew...

No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to the dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you build
the boat AROUND it! More like installing the boat on the engine.

Jon

Jon Elson wrote in :
snip
No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to the
dry dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you
build the boat AROUND it! More like installing the boat on the
engine.

Jon



So what you're saying is that the engine is like the heater core in a 78
Ford Pinto, the first thing put on the assembly line and the rest built
around it.

Bill

Jon Elson wrote:

No no no.... Â*You do not "install" this engine. Â*You barge it to the dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you build
the boat AROUND it!

Not done that way. The hull is erected and the the engine lifted into the
hull. Then the deck is done.
Hard to replace, anyhow. :-)


Nick
--
The lowcost-DRO:
http://www.yadro.de

Nick Mueller wrote:
Jon Elson wrote:


No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to the dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you build
the boat AROUND it!


Not done that way. The hull is erected and the the engine lifted into the
hull. Then the deck is done.
Hard to replace, anyhow. :-)


Amazing! I can't imagine the cranes that must be needed to lift the
14-Cyl version
of that Wartsila engine, it must be close to 100 feet long and maybe 8
feet wide and 30 tall! Obviously, you have to build the structure that
goes below the engine before the engine goes in, and I assume that the
boat would get scrapped if the engine needed a complete replacement.
For structural reasons, I can't imagine they have a single 100 foot long
hatch over the engine, like a car's hood.

Jon

Jon Elson wrote:

I can't imagine the cranes that must be needed to lift the
14-Cyl version
of that Wartsila engine, it must be close to 100 feet long and maybe 8
feet wide and 30 tall!

They'd have to lift it anyhow. So it doesn't matter that much how high. :-)
There are swimming cranes that can lift an incredible load. Maybe it takes
some of them, I don't know. Also, I don't think this one is installed as a
whole.

Obviously, you have to build the structure that
goes below the engine before the engine goes in,

Exactly. Because you want to have the engine in a closed compartment
quickly, it is installed at quite a late moment. And yes, there is a huge
hole in some of the decks.
The superstructures are installed later. Mostly in building blocks and even
with the ship already swimming. A drydock costs money.

and I assume that the boat would get scrapped if the engine needed a
complete replacement.

They are sometimes replaced. But I guess that's an expensive task,
especially with this monster! :-)


Nick
--
The lowcost-DRO:
http://www.yadro.de

Jon Elson wrote:


Nick Mueller wrote:
Jon Elson wrote:


No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to the
dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you build
the boat AROUND it!


Not done that way. The hull is erected and the the engine lifted into
the
hull. Then the deck is done.
Hard to replace, anyhow. :-)


Amazing! I can't imagine the cranes that must be needed to lift the
14-Cyl version
of that Wartsila engine, it must be close to 100 feet long and maybe 8
feet wide and 30 tall! Obviously, you have to build the structure
that goes below the engine before the engine goes in, and I assume
that the boat would get scrapped if the engine needed a complete
replacement. For structural reasons, I can't imagine they have a
single 100 foot long hatch over the engine, like a car's hood.

Jon

Maybe the sort of gantry crane at Harland & Wolff in Belfast, 840 tonnes
each apparently. Best not to watch the crane accident video or "how to
take out an upstart tower crane "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_ahAulMSE .

David Billington wrote:

Jon Elson wrote:


Nick Mueller wrote:
Jon Elson wrote:


No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to
the dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you
build
the boat AROUND it!


Not done that way. The hull is erected and the the engine lifted
into the
hull. Then the deck is done.
Hard to replace, anyhow. :-)


Amazing! I can't imagine the cranes that must be needed to lift the
14-Cyl version
of that Wartsila engine, it must be close to 100 feet long and maybe
8 feet wide and 30 tall! Obviously, you have to build the structure
that goes below the engine before the engine goes in, and I assume
that the boat would get scrapped if the engine needed a complete
replacement. For structural reasons, I can't imagine they have a
single 100 foot long hatch over the engine, like a car's hood.

Jon

Maybe the sort of gantry crane at Harland & Wolff in Belfast, 840
tonnes each apparently. Best not to watch the crane accident video or
"how to take out an upstart tower crane "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_ahAulMSE .

Maybe not, just checked the engine weight again and both cranes together
can only lift 2/3 or the specified engine weight.

David Billington wrote:

Maybe not, just checked the engine weight again and both cranes together
can only lift 2/3 or the specified engine weight.

This will do the job:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_%28machine%29#Floating_crane

Or buy a used one with 3000 tons capacity: :-))
http://www.rodson.com/en/shipyard/used_floating_cranes_for_sale.html


Nick
--
The lowcost-DRO:
http://www.yadro.de

eva wrote:
I've found it this day on the net, the big fuel motor of the world,
surely the motor of a boat !
Full description here, http://www.hoatu.fr/bestofwww/TheMos...ntheWorld.html
Impressive !

Thanks for that! Kinda puts my generator's leaky crank case cover in
perspective I think my favorite part is the ladders going down into
the crank case.

Bill

On Dec 3, 12:10 pm, Jon Elson wrote:
Nick Mueller wrote:
Jon Elson wrote:

No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to the dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you build
the boat AROUND it!

Not done that way. The hull is erected and the the engine lifted into the
hull. Then the deck is done.
Hard to replace, anyhow. :-)

Amazing! I can't imagine the cranes that must be needed to lift the
14-Cyl version
of that Wartsila engine, it must be close to 100 feet long and maybe 8
feet wide and 30 tall! Obviously, you have to build the structure that
goes below the engine before the engine goes in, and I assume that the
boat would get scrapped if the engine needed a complete replacement.
For structural reasons, I can't imagine they have a single 100 foot long
hatch over the engine, like a car's hood.

Jon

Haven't been in a shipyard lately, have you? They prefab whole
sections of ships now, lift them into position and fasten them. All
modular. The engine probably would never be removed once the deck
above is in position, there's probably a bridge crane in the engine
room to handle the engine parts if a teardown is ever needed. The
hatch would probably handle the largest piece on end and that would
probably be lifted by a shipyard crane. Cranes rated in thousands of
tons aren't that uncommon at shipyards anymore, given the size of the
ships being built these days and how they build them.

Stan

Jon Elson wrote:


Nick Mueller wrote:
Jon Elson wrote:


No no no.... You do not "install" this engine. You barge it to the dry
dock, place it in the right spot with a BUNCH of cranes, then you build
the boat AROUND it!


Not done that way. The hull is erected and the the engine lifted into the
hull. Then the deck is done.
Hard to replace, anyhow. :-)


Amazing! I can't imagine the cranes that must be needed to lift the
14-Cyl version
of that Wartsila engine, it must be close to 100 feet long and maybe 8
feet wide and 30 tall! Obviously, you have to build the structure that
goes below the engine before the engine goes in, and I assume that the
boat would get scrapped if the engine needed a complete replacement. For
structural reasons, I can't imagine they have a single 100 foot long
hatch over the engine, like a car's hood.

Don't they put them in in sections? They did that with the old steam
engines (which did get quite big): basically erected them in place.
For the Wartsila engine, the crankcase looks to be in sections, & the
cylinders are separate. So the biggest item would be that 300-ton shaft.
But 300 ton is an easy lift for a shipyard crane...