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Storing GTAW filler
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:58:36 -0600, "Rob Fraser"
FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote: Guys, I have a bunch of tubes of 36" filler rods for all sorts of different materials and I'm not going to be using my gear for a while due to an upcoming back surgery in Jan. I am thinking of just making some 6" dia PVC pipe with a threaded tops and a capped bottoms and sealing them well. What I'm wondering is should I put desiccant packs in the tubes and/or put Schrader valves on them and vacuum evacuate the air out or purge them with nitrogen gas or another gas to prevent or slow down degradation of the filler. I sometimes see that I have dulled filler and I just wipe them down with steel wool or MEK on a shop towel. Just looking to protect my investments. Any ideas or things you use to protect your fillers? I am not about to dump $15.00 on the store bought cute little 36" containers for rod when I can make it for pennies on the dollar and do it better. Thanks gang, Rob Fraser Competition Engines Chicago, IL. Your approach should work well, purged and backfilled with dry N2 or argon. Rather than the cost of threaded ends and plugs, I'd bet that caps sealed with duct tape would suffice nicely. I've found that spools of MIG wire keep well in an ordinary large ziplock freezer bag purged and backfilled with argon. I know that polyethylene is not completely impermeable to oxygen or water vapor, but the approach seems to work for at least several years. If you can find mylar or saran (polyvinylidene fluoride) sheet stock and a heat sealer, making bags of that purged with argon or N2 and then heat sealed should be excellent archival storage. |
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Storing GTAW filler
Don Foreman wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:58:36 -0600, "Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote: Guys, I have a bunch of tubes of 36" filler rods for all sorts of different materials and I'm not going to be using my gear for a while due to an upcoming back surgery in Jan. I am thinking of just making some 6" dia PVC pipe with a threaded tops and a capped bottoms and sealing them well. What I'm wondering is should I put desiccant packs in the tubes and/or put Schrader valves on them and vacuum evacuate the air out or purge them with nitrogen gas or another gas to prevent or slow down degradation of the filler. I sometimes see that I have dulled filler and I just wipe them down with steel wool or MEK on a shop towel. Just looking to protect my investments. Any ideas or things you use to protect your fillers? I am not about to dump $15.00 on the store bought cute little 36" containers for rod when I can make it for pennies on the dollar and do it better. Thanks gang, Rob Fraser Competition Engines Chicago, IL. Your approach should work well, purged and backfilled with dry N2 or argon. Rather than the cost of threaded ends and plugs, I'd bet that caps sealed with duct tape would suffice nicely. I've found that spools of MIG wire keep well in an ordinary large ziplock freezer bag purged and backfilled with argon. I know that polyethylene is not completely impermeable to oxygen or water vapor, but the approach seems to work for at least several years. If you can find mylar or saran (polyvinylidene fluoride) sheet stock and a heat sealer, making bags of that purged with argon or N2 and then heat sealed should be excellent archival storage. Vacuum packing with a FoodSaver would probably work fine for MIG wire or stick rods, the long TIG filler might be a bit awkward, but probably still workable. |
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Storing GTAW filler
Pete C. wrote:
Vacuum packing with a FoodSaver would probably work fine for MIG wire or stick rods, the long TIG filler might be a bit awkward, but probably still workable. There are vacuum food saver "bags" that come as a roll & you cut off the length that you need. Here's one: http://totalvac.com/accessory/parts/01-0029-01.html 22 feet x 8" wide, $11.95 Bob |
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