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Questions about 3 in one machines?
Hello,
This is my first post to this group. I have always wanted to tinker with metal working. My shop space is limited so I was considering a Smithy combination lathe and milling machine. I know that it would not be as good as dedicated machinery. My question is, would the Smithy product be a good choice or is there a better option? I wouldn't say money isn't an issue, but space and versatility is more of an issue. Feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Mike B. |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
I would get a separate lathe and mill even if it meant settling for a
smaller machine. There are many times you need to polish a pin or shaft and it's a pain with a combo machine to be always breaking setups. |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
Auriga wrote:
I wouldn't say money isn't an issue, but space and versatility is more of an issue. Oh! Then you want a UWG! http://www.lathes.co.uk/hommel/ Nick -- The lowcost-DRO: http://www.yadro.de |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
If you have settled on a 3 in 1 machine for reasons of space etc. then look
at the shopmaster- www.shopmasterusa.com Its by far the best of the bunch especially as a mill. If you are still considering seperates, keep in mind the extra costs of adding DRO, CNC , two benches etc on 2 seperate machines. "Auriga" wrote in message ... Hello, This is my first post to this group. I have always wanted to tinker with metal working. My shop space is limited so I was considering a Smithy combination lathe and milling machine. I know that it would not be as good as dedicated machinery. My question is, would the Smithy product be a good choice or is there a better option? I wouldn't say money isn't an issue, but space and versatility is more of an issue. Feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Mike B. |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
I have a Shoptask and am very happy with it. I had the same situation, only a
short section of wall space available in my house for one machine tool. I have added the overarm support like the current generation of the Shoptask (the Tri-power), and this stiffens the mill considerably. There are several forums for discussing 3 in 1 machines: http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/index.php http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mai...task&nav=start http://forums.delphiforums.com/shoptaskUsers/start http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3_in_1_Lathe_Mill_Drill/ -- Dennis |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
On Nov 23, 9:08 pm, Auriga wrote:
Hello, This is my first post to this group. I have always wanted to tinker with metal working. My shop space is limited so I was considering a Smithy combination lathe and milling machine. I know that it would not be as good as dedicated machinery. My question is, would the Smithy product be a good choice or is there a better option? I wouldn't say money isn't an issue, but space and versatility is more of an issue. Feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Mike B. The Smithy I bought new was pure junk. I cannot, with a clear conscience, recommend one to anyone. All the fasteners were so soft that even with the provided tool the heads rounded off within a few tightenings. The Mill head would slip and rotate on it's column in the middle of a job no matter how tight I got the clamps. Every time the chuck was removed and replaced, it was never true until I loosened the mounting bolts and centered it using a dial indicator. The column was off plumb enough that it had to be shimmed to get it right. Junk. |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
Mike,
Maybe you should sign up on the http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/ group. They have a dedicated section for 3 in 1 machines. DJ On Nov 23, 8:08 pm, Auriga wrote: Hello, This is my first post to this group. I have always wanted to tinker with metal working. My shop space is limited so I was considering a Smithy combination lathe and milling machine. I know that it would not be as good as dedicated machinery. My question is, would the Smithy product be a good choice or is there a better option? I wouldn't say money isn't an issue, but space and versatility is more of an issue. Feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Mike B. |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:38:50 +0100, Nick Mueller
wrote: Auriga wrote: I wouldn't say money isn't an issue, but space and versatility is more of an issue. Oh! Then you want a UWG! http://www.lathes.co.uk/hommel/ Nick ========================= Even tne paint is expensive http://www.lathes.co.uk/hommel/page12.html but I want one. Nick - How popular were these in Germany and have you ever seen one in the flesh? |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
F. George McDuffee wrote:
Nick - How popular were these in Germany and have you ever seen one in the flesh? They are *very* rare (well maybe not, but if you have one, you'll keep it and your children will keep it too) and you'll have to pay a collector's price. With complete add-ons, they won't go below 5000.- EUR for the UWG 2 in mint condition. Still want one? :-)) They pop up on eBay from time to time. There's a similar type quite beefier and once made in Holland. Forgot the name. Here's more about the UWG (in German) http://www.enhydralutris.de/Hommel/index.html Something similar still being built (new construction, maybe 10 years old) and almost as flexible is the GOLmatic. http://www.golmatic.de/ I have seen that tool once. It is well made, no crap (except the lathe is not soooo good). I once was close buying one, but then retracted because the distance spindle nose table was too small for me. Not comparable to those crappy Chinese 3in1! Nick -- The lowcost-DRO: http://www.yadro.de |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:55:04 +0100, Nick Mueller
wrote: They are *very* rare (well maybe not, but if you have one, you'll keep it and your children will keep it too) and you'll have to pay a collector's price. With complete add-ons, they won't go below 5000.- EUR for the UWG 2 in mint condition. Still want one? :-)) They pop up on eBay from time to time. ================= Thanks for the info. Yes I still want one, however I want a big new Mercedes diesel car too. Won't be getting that either... |
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Questions about 3 in one machines?
Thanks for the input guys.
It helps a novice like myself. Mike B. On Nov 24, 4:30 pm, F. George McDuffee gmcduf...@mcduffee- associates.us wrote: On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:55:04 +0100, Nick Mueller wrote: They are *very* rare (well maybe not, but if you have one, you'll keep it and your children will keep it too) and you'll have to pay a collector's price. With complete add-ons, they won't go below 5000.- EUR for the UWG 2 in mint condition. Still want one? :-)) They pop up on eBay from time to time. ================= Thanks for the info. Yes I still want one, however I want a big new Mercedes diesel car too. Won't be getting that either... |
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