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I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a
little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You're using the proper double walled modular chimney pipe for wood stoves I hope? The single wall stuff is for gas fireplace inserts and the like and is not safe for use with a wood stove. If you're using the correct items, you do not need any additional sealant. Also remember that the metal will be expanding and contracting and JB Weld would likely be a disaster. |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You shouldn't need to seal them if it is installed right. The right way is the joint is lapped so the creosote doesn't run out and down your pipe. Round here tis a sure sign of a greenhorn. Also put three sheetmetal screws in each joint. Steve |
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"Up North" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You shouldn't need to seal them if it is installed right. The right way is the joint is lapped so the creosote doesn't run out and down your pipe. Round here tis a sure sign of a greenhorn. Also put three sheetmetal screws in each joint. Steve Creosote should never run out of your pipes! If it is you are firing _way_ too low! The inside of your stove should be white if you are firing up like you should be! A hot house has a clean chimney......;) phil kangas -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Nov 15, 9:48 am, "SteveB" wrote:
I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve There are gaskets specifically made for this purpose - the place you bought the stove would have them.... Get copy of the relevant installation standards as well, might be illuminating for you.... Andrew VK3BFA. |
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On Nov 14, 10:49 pm, "Pete C." wrote:
SteveB wrote: I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You're using the proper double walled modular chimney pipe for wood stoves I hope? The single wall stuff is for gas fireplace inserts and the like and is not safe for use with a wood stove. If you're using the correct items, you do not need any additional sealant. Also remember that the metal will be expanding and contracting and JB Weld would likely be a disaster. I would not use JB Weld. It will not last long. I think the best stuff is furnace cement. It will crack, but you really don't need a perfect seal. The single wall stove pipe is safe to use, but not where the pipe goes thru the wall or roof. Dan |
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wrote The single wall stove pipe is safe to use, but not where the pipe goes thru the wall or roof. Dan Too ease everyone's fears, the single wall pipe goes into the ceiling box, then a triple wall takes it through the short attic space. All a vertical run. I just had a couple of small places I was concerned about. Steve |
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Pete C. wrote:
SteveB wrote: I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You're using the proper double walled modular chimney pipe for wood stoves I hope? The single wall stuff is for gas fireplace inserts and the like and is not safe for use with a wood stove. If you're using the correct items, you do not need any additional sealant. Also remember that the metal will be expanding and contracting and JB Weld would likely be a disaster. Draft, then the soot from the smoke, will seal single wall chimney pipe. Stove pipe cement maybe? Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On Nov 14, 5:48 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve I have one slip joint where the black iron pipe goes (a long way) into the stainless steel adapter for the double-wall chimney. I sealed it by wrapping all my spare flat door gasketing around the joint. 3 screws is the standard but I like to use 4 or 6 stainless steel flanged hex head screws which are easier to drive straight than Phillips, so the holes aren't damaged when I reassemble the flue after cleaning and inspection. Jim Wilkins |
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SteveB wrote:
wrote The single wall stove pipe is safe to use, but not where the pipe goes thru the wall or roof. Dan Too ease everyone's fears, the single wall pipe goes into the ceiling box, then a triple wall takes it through the short attic space. All a vertical run. I just had a couple of small places I was concerned about. Steve Just use little short self tapping screws, Steve. One per joint is really adequate, unless you've got some horizontal distance that's unsupported. I don't know of anything that'll "seal" the joints reliably, short of welding them, because of the constant expansion and contraction. John |
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On Nov 14, 9:20 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
wrote The single wall stovepipeis safe to use, but not where thepipegoes thru the wall or roof. Dan Too ease everyone's fears, the single wallpipegoes into the ceiling box, then a triple wall takes it through the short attic space. All a vertical run. I just had a couple of small places I was concerned about. Steve http://www.t-drill.com/Pipe-Cutter.html |
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On Nov 15, 6:30 am, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:48 pm, "SteveB" wrote: I just put in some chimneypipefor a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve I have one slip joint where the black ironpipegoes (a long way) into the stainless steel adapter for the double-wall chimney. I sealed it by wrapping all my spare flat door gasketing around the joint. 3 screws is the standard but I like to use 4 or 6 stainless steel flanged hex head screws which are easier to drive straight than Phillips, so the holes aren't damaged when I reassemble the flue after cleaning and inspection. Jim Wilkins http://www.t-drill.com/Pipe-Cutter.html |
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On Nov 14, 6:24 pm, "Phil Kangas" wrote:
"Up North" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message I just put in some chimneypipefor a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You shouldn't need to seal them if it is installed right. The right way is the joint is lapped so the creosote doesn't run out and down yourpipe. Round here tis a sure sign of a greenhorn. Also put three sheetmetal screws in each joint. Steve Creosote should never run out of your pipes! If it is you are firing _way_ too low! The inside of your stove should be white if you are firing up like you should be! A hot house has a clean chimney......;) phil kangas -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com http://www.t-drill.com/Pipe-Cutter.html |
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On Nov 14, 5:55 pm, "Up North" wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message ...I just put in some chimneypipefor a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You shouldn't need to seal them if it is installed right. The right way is the joint is lapped so the creosote doesn't run out and down yourpipe. Round here tis a sure sign of a greenhorn. Also put three sheetmetal screws in each joint. Steve http://www.t-drill.com/Pipe-Cutter.html |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:13:35 -0800 (PST), Pipe Man
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On Nov 14, 11:25 pm, Trevor Jones wrote:
Pete C. wrote: SteveB wrote: I just put in some chimney pipe for a wood stove. The slip joints have a little space in them. What is good for sealing up these joints? My first thought was JB Weld. Is that good, or is there something that would stick to the metal at those temperatures? Steve You're using the proper double walled modular chimney pipe for wood stoves I hope? The single wall stuff is for gas fireplace inserts and the like and is not safe for use with a wood stove. If you're using the correct items, you do not need any additional sealant. Also remember that the metal will be expanding and contracting and JB Weld would likely be a disaster. Draft, then the soot from the smoke, will seal single wall chimney pipe. Stove pipe cement maybe? Cheers Trevor Jones Trevor is dead right. the seal is unimportant. as soon as there is hot air rising through the pipe any not perfectly sealed joint will only be sucking room air INTO it not out. Basically once the draft is established the hot air rising up through the chimney is MOVING AIR. the air in the fireplace room (My rec roomin my case) is static air that is barely moving at all at best. Air in motion exerts less pressure thna air not moving so therefor the non moving air will flow INTO the imperfectly sealed single wall stove pipe joint and go up the chimney. In itself that is actually desirable. it is less efficient as a means of heating BUT it makes it impossible for carbon monoxide to enter the house. Unless i'm stoking the fire i cannot smell my woodstove because all the airflow having combustion applied to it is being fed up and out. I love the fireplace smoke smell but i like living my driveway and porch smell like my fire my house does not due to the partially burned products not entering the house itself |
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