Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.

"John Doe" wrote in message
et...

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.

Yes.

You are welcome.

John Doe wrote:

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.


A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Bill Marrs wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
et...

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.

Yes.

You are welcome.


He needs to call the "Vise Squad"! ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:58:11 GMT, John Doe
wrote:


Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.
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You will get better advice if you can tell us how big the
aluminum stock and the type/size/tollerance of the bend/twist, if
you can have clamp marks, etc.

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

"John Doe" wrote in message
et...

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.

REAL men bend it with their bare hands.

Steve

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:50:16 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm,
"SteveB" quickly quoth:


"John Doe" wrote in message
. net...

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.

REAL men bend it with their bare hands.

Teeth and finners, pard.

--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:58:11 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Yes, there are many ways to use bending fixtures on bar stock to
bend it at any radius you desire - if you Google around someplace like
Harbor Freight Tools you'll find several.

But if you don't heat treat and anneal the aluminum bar stock to
"dead soft" condition first before you try bending it I can guarantee
failure, because Aluminum will fatigue and crack at the bend.
Sometimes with a sharp bend you have to anneal it, bend part way,
anneal it again, then finish the bend.

With Aluminum there is very little difference between the heat
needed to anneal and to melt. You'll end up with some "Oopsies" and a
puddle of Aluminum on the floor where you lingered with the torch just
a little bit too long...

Which is why it's usually a whole lot easier and faster to cut your
bar stock with a miter joint, and TIG or MIG (Spool-gun) weld the
pieces together at the angle you want, than to try bending it.
Especially doing it on a production basis.

-- Bruce --

"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:58:11 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

With Aluminum there is very little difference between the heat
needed to anneal and to melt. You'll end up with some "Oopsies" and a
puddle of Aluminum on the floor where you lingered with the torch just
a little bit too long...

Just in case the entire world doesn't know this trick:

When annealing aluminum with a OA torch, turn off the oxygen and smoke the
metal with the acetylene flame. Turn oxy back on, gently heat until the
carbon burns
off. It should be annealed at that point, at least well enough for
bending/forming.
Keep the torch moving, especially on this stock.

Bill

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:41:59 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:58:11 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Yes, there are many ways to use bending fixtures on bar stock to
bend it at any radius you desire - if you Google around someplace like
Harbor Freight Tools you'll find several.

But if you don't heat treat and anneal the aluminum bar stock to
"dead soft" condition first before you try bending it I can guarantee
failure,

No. As long as you control the bend radius, any of the wrought alloys
are bendable without annealing. The minimum radius depends on the
specific alloy, temper, and thickness.

because Aluminum will fatigue and crack at the bend.

Fatigue is a result of cyclical stress, not a single event.

Sometimes with a sharp bend you have to anneal it, bend part way,
anneal it again, then finish the bend.

There may be some exotic aluminum alloy that strain hardens that
quickly, but I've never run into it.


With Aluminum there is very little difference between the heat
needed to anneal and to melt. You'll end up with some "Oopsies" and a
puddle of Aluminum on the floor where you lingered with the torch just
a little bit too long...

If it is necessary to anneal, the temp should be around 650F; the
melting point of common aluminum alloys is in the range 900-1100F. See
the post by Bill Marrs for one trick for annealing. (As he implies,
we're not talking about a true anneal, but reducing the temper enough
to make relatively sharp bends.)

--
Ned Simmons

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:18:46 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device, either
store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple vice.

Thank you.


A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorce and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:46 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr


Sigh...and the things that are to be stiff...sfiff.

Practice practice practice.


Though Im afraid Im going to have to quit smokeing really soon...I
started running out of wind much sooner than I should have. Even with
a gal sitting on my face.....shrug

Gunner

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
18:59:21 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:46 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr


Sigh...and the things that are to be stiff...sfiff.

Practice practice practice.


Though Im afraid Im going to have to quit smokeing really soon...I
started running out of wind much sooner than I should have. Even with
a gal sitting on my face.....shrug

See, what did we tell yo?. Those things are bad for your social
life. Like the Sunday School teacher told me "You don't have to smoke
and drink to have a good time."

Dang, now I'm wondering if I had stayed on the swim team in school,
would the ability to hold my breathe have proven of good use later on?
Hmm, the things we'll never know.

--
pyotr filipivich
Typos, Grammos and da kind are the result Emmanations of Penumbra
Fortesque Consulting: Teaching Pigs to Sing since 1986.

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:47:59 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
pyotr filipivich quickly quoth:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
18:59:21 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:46 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr


Sigh...and the things that are to be stiff...sfiff.

Practice practice practice.


Though Im afraid Im going to have to quit smokeing really soon...I
started running out of wind much sooner than I should have. Even with
a gal sitting on my face.....shrug

See, what did we tell yo?. Those things are bad for your social
life. Like the Sunday School teacher told me "You don't have to smoke
and drink to have a good time."

Dang, now I'm wondering if I had stayed on the swim team in school,
would the ability to hold my breathe have proven of good use later on?
Hmm, the things we'll never know.

I know, and can tell you from experience, it helped! There's nothing
nicer in the winter than a nice, smooth, warm set of thigh earmuffs.

LJ, who got his JV letter in the Breast Stroke (actual sport) and
taught Braille Anatomy (happily, on the side.)

--
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when
they do it from religious conviction. - Blaise Pascal

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:47:59 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
pyotr filipivich quickly quoth:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
18:59:21 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:46 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr


Sigh...and the things that are to be stiff...sfiff.

Practice practice practice.


Though Im afraid Im going to have to quit smokeing really soon...I
started running out of wind much sooner than I should have. Even with
a gal sitting on my face.....shrug

See, what did we tell yo?. Those things are bad for your social
life. Like the Sunday School teacher told me "You don't have to smoke
and drink to have a good time."

Dang, now I'm wondering if I had stayed on the swim team in school,
would the ability to hold my breathe have proven of good use later on?
Hmm, the things we'll never know.

I know, and can tell you from experience, it helped! There's nothing
nicer in the winter than a nice, smooth, warm set of thigh earmuffs.

LJ, who got his JV letter in the Breast Stroke (actual sport) and
taught Braille Anatomy (happily, on the side.)


Winter? What winter? Haven't you heard about 'Global Warming',
where it'll be over 100° F year round?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote on Mon, 01 Oct
2007 11:01:34 -0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:47:59 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
pyotr filipivich quickly quoth:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
18:59:21 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:46 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr


Sigh...and the things that are to be stiff...sfiff.

Practice practice practice.


Though Im afraid Im going to have to quit smokeing really soon...I
started running out of wind much sooner than I should have. Even with
a gal sitting on my face.....shrug

See, what did we tell yo?. Those things are bad for your social
life. Like the Sunday School teacher told me "You don't have to smoke
and drink to have a good time."

Dang, now I'm wondering if I had stayed on the swim team in school,
would the ability to hold my breathe have proven of good use later on?
Hmm, the things we'll never know.

I know, and can tell you from experience, it helped! There's nothing
nicer in the winter than a nice, smooth, warm set of thigh earmuffs.

LJ, who got his JV letter in the Breast Stroke (actual sport) and
taught Braille Anatomy (happily, on the side.)


Winter? What winter? Haven't you heard about 'Global Warming',
where it'll be over 100° F year round?

"When the weathers warm and sultry,
it then that people's thoughts
turn to adultery."


I've always been bemused by those who will say "it is f*sking cold
out!" when the temps are way to too cold for comfort.

toodles
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

pyotr filipivich wrote:

"When the weathers warm and sultry,
it then that people's thoughts
turn to adultery."

I've always been bemused by those who will say "it is f*sking cold
out!" when the temps are way to too cold for comfort.


I always laugh at the people in a sweater or zipped up jacket when it
drops to 65° F around here, in Central Florida. I've been here almost
20 years, yet I rarely wear a coat, even when it dips to 45° F.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
18:59:21 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:40:46 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Sun, 30 Sep 2007
11:49:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

A simple vice? Like eating too much chocolate, or sleeping in late
on the weekends? ;-)

A 44yr old in shape divorcee and her roommate who couldnt sleep because
the noise was making her horney?

Thats a simple vice, right?

Gunner, walking gingerly this weekend....VBG

Ooh, sounds like Gunner needs to exercise more regularly. Keep
things which are to be flexible, flexible.

tschus
pyotr


Sigh...and the things that are to be stiff...sfiff.

Practice practice practice.


Though Im afraid Im going to have to quit smokeing really soon...I
started running out of wind much sooner than I should have. Even with
a gal sitting on my face.....shrug

I've got a recording of a song by Tex Ritter (IIRC) "For men who
know tobacco, it's women two to one!"

Amen and FM.

pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote on Tue, 02 Oct
2007 10:08:12 -0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
pyotr filipivich wrote:

"When the weathers warm and sultry,
it then that people's thoughts
turn to adultery."

I've always been bemused by those who will say "it is f*sking cold
out!" when the temps are way to too cold for comfort.


I always laugh at the people in a sweater or zipped up jacket when it
drops to 65° F around here, in Central Florida. I've been here almost
20 years, yet I rarely wear a coat, even when it dips to 45° F.

Last year, when it spent several days below freezing, we're standing
out side for break (midnight thirty if I recall correctly) and someone
make a comment about how it's suppose to drop to 28 degrees "tonight".
Forman pulls a six inch scale out of his bib overalls, holds it to his
chest (nipple) and looking down says "yeah, that's about right!"
Sheesh.

pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

"SteveB" wrote:


"John Doe" wrote in message
et...

Is there an easy way to bend aluminum flat bar? Like a device,
either store-bought or homemade? Something other than a simple
vice.

Thank you.

REAL men bend it with their bare hands.

And what do you use?










Steve