I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Tilton Online sell only in the US. They did not get as far as
indicating whether they had suitable chain, but in any case are only
dealers for Rapco.

There was one other mob I emailed. They dealt with rescue chain. And
yet another that cost as much as Oz anyway.

So does anyone know anyone other than Rapco that deals in TCT chain
for wood purposes?

Thanks for any help.

************************************************** *****

Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:02:53 +0800, Old Nick
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Errr...that's carbide....:-
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Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad

try here. http://www.cutterschoice.com/indexus.shtml
Karl

"Old Nick" wrote in message
...
I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Tilton Online sell only in the US. They did not get as far as
indicating whether they had suitable chain, but in any case are only
dealers for Rapco.

There was one other mob I emailed. They dealt with rescue chain. And
yet another that cost as much as Oz anyway.

So does anyone know anyone other than Rapco that deals in TCT chain
for wood purposes?

Thanks for any help.

************************************************** *****

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the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad


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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:10:11 GMT, "Karl Vorwerk"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Will do. Thank you.

try here. http://www.cutterschoice.com/indexus.shtml
Karl

************************************************** *****

Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad

Old Nick wrote:
I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Tilton Online sell only in the US. They did not get as far as
indicating whether they had suitable chain, but in any case are only
dealers for Rapco.

There was one other mob I emailed. They dealt with rescue chain. And
yet another that cost as much as Oz anyway.

So does anyone know anyone other than Rapco that deals in TCT chain
for wood purposes?

Thanks for any help.

************************************************** *****

Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad

Rapco is alive and well, they make the TCT to fit any type of saw ever
made. The web address is: http://www.rapcoindustries.com/index.html

Hope this helps,

Bob

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:42:39 -0500, Bob Robinson
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Rapco is alive and well, they make the TCT to fit any type of saw ever
made. The web address is: http://www.rapcoindustries.com/index.html

Hope this helps,

They may well be. But as I said, their site just will not show up. I
even tried manually adding it to my firewall, and also closing the
wall down, but it just comes up dead every time.
************************************************** *****

friggin blah

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:42:39 -0500, Bob Robinson
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Rapco is alive and well, they make the TCT to fit any type of saw ever
made. The web address is: http://www.rapcoindustries.com/index.html

Hope this helps,

They may well be. But as I said, their site just will not show up. I
even tried manually adding it to my firewall, and also closing the
wall down, but it just comes up dead every time.

Hmm ... they come up fine for me right now. Earlier today
(actually yesterday by now) there was a major DNS server under DDoS
attack, which might account for your problems.

Or it may be that *their* firewall is blocking anything from
out-of-country. I've gotten a lot of spam sent from OZ sites -- as I am
sure that you have gotten a lot sent by US sites. I'm not blocking OZ,
but I am blocking as much as I can of China and Korea (among other
places).

You could try replacing the domain name with the IP address and
see if that will get you through (which would shortcut DNS lookup
problems). Here are the results of my nslookup run:

================================================== ====================
Name: www.rapcoindustries.com
Address: 216.242.0.56
================================================== ====================

You could also try a traceroute (if you've got that program in
your system). That could tell you where the connection is failing. It
could be anywhere between your system and theirs. I get as far as the
same class-C block before the traceroute dies, so I suspect that they
have some form of firewall blocking ICMP packets (which traceroute
depends upon).

================================================== ====================
traceroute to 216.242.0.56 (216.242.0.56), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 SkinnyBox (204.91.85.1) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 209.116.196.213 (209.116.196.213) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
3 165.117.192.198 (165.117.192.198) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
4 165.117.175.129 (165.117.175.129) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
5 165.117.67.62 (165.117.67.62) 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms
6 165.117.64.9 (165.117.64.9) 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms
7 206.111.0.17.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.0.17) 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms
8 sl-st21-ash-6-2.sprintlink.net (144.223.246.113) 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms
9 sl-bb26-rly-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.149) 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms
10 sl-bb22-atl-11-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.19.177) 60 ms 54 ms 36 ms
11 sl-bb20-orl-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.19.74) 35 ms 32 ms 35 ms
12 sl-gw11-orl-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.2.226) 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms
13 sl-ciberlynxinc-48-0-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.59.50) 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms
14 216.242.114.19 (216.242.114.19) 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms
15 * * *
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *

================================================== ====================

If all else fails, you can try contacting them via phone or
e-mail, from this information from their web page:

================================================== ====================
RAPCO INDUSTRIES, INC.
6000 N.E. 88TH ST. SUITE D-104, VANCOUVER, WA 98665-0958
PHONE (800) 959-6130 FAX (360) 573-0046
Email: Email:
================================================== ====================

When you *do* reach them, please be gentle. The problem may be
nothing to do with them, and just be blocking somewhere upstream.

Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I wondered if I was being blocked somehow. The site is still dead to
me, either direct or via a reroute via a link etc.

Weirdly enough that IUP address came up with www.fanceeface.com, which
was also dead to me.


I have faxed them, and certainly I am not dishing them up a serve over
the site being unobtainable.....for a start I _want_ something from
them! G I have not had a reply as yet.


I will try the email. I got the fax from another site's info about
them, but iut dod not have an email address.

Thanks for all that.

Hmm ... they come up fine for me right now. Earlier today
(actually yesterday by now) there was a major DNS server under DDoS
attack, which might account for your problems.

Or it may be that *their* firewall is blocking anything from

You could try replacing the domain name with the IP address and

You could also try a traceroute (if you've got that program in
your system).
If all else fails, you can try contacting them via phone or
e-mail, from this information from their web page:
Email: Email:

When you *do* reach them, please be gentle. The problem may be

That site seems to be blocked for me too. I am in Brisbane, Australia.
Dave
"Old Nick" wrote in message
...
On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I wondered if I was being blocked somehow. The site is still dead to
me, either direct or via a reroute via a link etc.

Weirdly enough that IUP address came up with www.fanceeface.com, which
was also dead to me.


I have faxed them, and certainly I am not dishing them up a serve over
the site being unobtainable.....for a start I _want_ something from
them! G I have not had a reply as yet.


I will try the email. I got the fax from another site's info about
them, but iut dod not have an email address.

Thanks for all that.

Hmm ... they come up fine for me right now. Earlier today
(actually yesterday by now) there was a major DNS server under DDoS
attack, which might account for your problems.

Or it may be that *their* firewall is blocking anything from

You could try replacing the domain name with the IP address and

You could also try a traceroute (if you've got that program in
your system).
If all else fails, you can try contacting them via phone or
e-mail, from this information from their web page:
Email: Email:

When you *do* reach them, please be gentle. The problem may be

On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Don. This is weird. I tried _emailing_ one of those emsil addresses.
Nuh!

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Don. This is weird. I tried _emailing_ one of those emsil addresses.
Nuh!

I've just e-mailed them (both addresses), explaining the problem
as perceived.

In the meanwhile, is your e-mail address given above a valid
one? I was going to include your e-mail address in my e-mail, so they
could try from that end. But unless I am sure that it is a valid e-mail
address, I won't try that.

And is it one of the challenge-and-response ones? If so, they
may decide that it is too much trouble to bother with. I personally
*hate* challenge-and-response systems -- especially those which don't
even tell me what address I supposedly sent to, so I can be sure that
I'm authenticating myself, instead of a spammer. :-)

Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Just OOI. I get as far as your step 12, and then everything "times
out" even if I set 10000 as a timeout. That's 100% repeatable. So you
get a coupe of steps further than I do!

What do you make of it? As I said OOI.


You could also try a traceroute (if you've got that program in
your system). That could tell you where the connection is failing. It
could be anywhere between your system and theirs. I get as far as the
same class-C block before the traceroute dies, so I suspect that they
have some form of firewall blocking ICMP packets (which traceroute
depends upon).

================================================== ====================

snip

12 sl-gw11-orl-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.2.226) 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms
dead from here on.

13 sl-ciberlynxinc-48-0-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.59.50) 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms
14 216.242.114.19 (216.242.114.19) 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms
15 * * *
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *

In article ,
Old Nick wrote:
On 16 Jun 2004 01:23:47 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Just OOI. I get as far as your step 12, and then everything "times
out" even if I set 10000 as a timeout. That's 100% repeatable. So you
get a coupe of steps further than I do!

What do you make of it? As I said OOI.

[ ... ]

12 sl-gw11-orl-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.2.226) 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms
dead from here on.

It sounds as though that is where the blocking is occurring. If
we got similar results from other OZ members running the same
traceroute, that would make it sure.

Apparently, they (the company) don't know anything about any
blocking, and they *did* receive your e-mail (as covered in a reply in a
different branch of the thread).

As it turns out, there seems to be little point to continuing to
try to reach them, as they have an exclusive distributorship agreement
with someone in OZ (also covered in the other thread branch).

Good Luck,
DoN.
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Greetings and Salutations...

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:32:21 +0800, Old Nick
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:42:39 -0500, Bob Robinson
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Rapco is alive and well, they make the TCT to fit any type of saw ever
made. The web address is: http://www.rapcoindustries.com/index.html

Hope this helps,

They may well be. But as I said, their site just will not show up. I
even tried manually adding it to my firewall, and also closing the
wall down, but it just comes up dead every time.
************************************************* ******

friggin blah

Well, I see it was produced with that puss-filled, oozing
bit of excrement - FrontPage (not that I have strong opinons about
that sort of thing *smile*). That might be flaking out your
browser. Make sure you have the current version of the browser,
(I happen to prefer Opera, but Netscape is still ok...and IE should
work...probably), and, make sure that JavaScript is turned on.
I don't know if cookies are a problem...in any case, it comes
up fine in MY browser (Opera 7.5x)
Regards
Dave Mundt

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 07:21:11 GMT, (Dave Mundt)
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email


Well, I see it was produced with that puss-filled, oozing
bit of excrement - FrontPage (not that I have strong opinons about
that sort of thing *smile*).

Yes....errr no. I can see that! G

That might be flaking out your
browser. Make sure you have the current version of the browser,
(I happen to prefer Opera, but Netscape is still ok...and IE should
work...probably), and, make sure that JavaScript is turned on.
I don't know if cookies are a problem...in any case, it comes
up fine in MY browser (Opera 7.5x)

Don has been "talking" me through this. It seems it's not the site,
but something blocking either Oz or overseas stuff at a level up their
line. Another Oz guy also failed to get through.

In article ,
says...
I am trying to get some carbide chain from the US. In Oz it costs a
fortune, even taking shipping, conversion and tax into account. for
instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

I found one place (Baileys) that deals in Rapco chain. Baileys say
Rapco do not make a chain in carbide to suit my smaller saw (Husky
136, and probably known as Low Profile) but I know it can be had.

Rapco's site (rapcoindustries.com) seems dead.

Tilton Online sell only in the US. They did not get as far as
Have you tried this mob
TCT Pacific Chain & Tool Co.
P.O. Box 741, Avalon. NSW. 2107
Phone: (02) 9973 2032, 1300 666 031,
Fax: (02) 9973 2019
Email:
Contact: Grant and Lynelle Adams.
Suppliers of Sabre sawchain from John Deere, USA, Silvey chain & bar
grinders, tree jacks, bars, Viiala files, P.P.E. Comprehensive range of
tungsten carbide chainsaw chain.

indicating whether they had suitable chain, but in any case are only
dealers for Rapco.

There was one other mob I emailed. They dealt with rescue chain. And
yet another that cost as much as Oz anyway.

So does anyone know anyone other than Rapco that deals in TCT chain
for wood purposes?

Thanks for any help.

************************************************** *****

Sometimes in a workplace you find snot on the wall of
the toilet cubicles. You feel "What sort of twisted
child would do this?"....the internet seems full of
them. It's very sad

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:53:48 +1000, diesel_fuel
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

for
instance, to buy a couple of TCT chains from the US, and also a couple
of "Carbide impregnated" ones, will cost me $450 delivered, in $Aud.
To buy in Oz would cost Aud$750. If you see my point.

Have you tried this mob
TCT Pacific Chain & Tool Co.

Thanks, but yes. See above about pricing. They were the Oz price. If I
could only _find_ the chain, it poisses me off a bit. I, as a simngle
buyer can get chain for