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Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a
reasonable deal? The machine was a high school shop tool. The price
does not include shipping costs to be incurred.
What do you think? What considerations should enter my assessment of
this opportunity? How much do you think this baby weighs? It does
have a vise. Any input would be appreciated.

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trg-s338 wrote:

Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a
reasonable deal?


Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150.

GWE
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Grant Erwin wrote:
trg-s338 wrote:

Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a
reasonable deal?


Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150.

GWE


Agreed. With shapers, the bigger they are the cheaper they are on the
used market.

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John Martin wrote:

Grant Erwin wrote:


trg-s338 wrote:



Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a
reasonable deal?


Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150.

GWE



Agreed. With shapers, the bigger they are the cheaper they are on the
used market.

John Martin



I third that...far over priced...even if it wasn't broken. The only
other thing to consider is the vice. Figure that's worth more than half
the cost of the rest of the shaper. No vice or bad vice, shaper value
goes way down. Good vice and it may have value as a seperate item, even
if the rest of the machine is a boat anchor.

Koz


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Koz wrote:
I third that...far over priced...even if it wasn't broken. The only
other thing to consider is the vice. Figure that's worth more than half
the cost of the rest of the shaper. No vice or bad vice, shaper value
goes way down. Good vice and it may have value as a seperate item, even
if the rest of the machine is a boat anchor.


I don't get it. What's so special about a shaper vise?
How is it different from a good milling vise?


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Rex B wrote:

Koz wrote:
I third that...far over priced...even if it wasn't broken. The only
other thing to consider is the vice. Figure that's worth more than
half the cost of the rest of the shaper. No vice or bad vice, shaper
value goes way down. Good vice and it may have value as a seperate
item, even if the rest of the machine is a boat anchor.


I don't get it. What's so special about a shaper vise?
How is it different from a good milling vise?


Force between the jaws is carried in tension on a shaper vise - no
problem with the screw buckling.

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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:17:24 -0800, Grant Erwin
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trg-s338 wrote:

Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a
reasonable deal?


Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150.

GWE


IRRC..that arm is cast iron. So a new one would likely need to be
fabricated from scratch. Which is no easy task and getting a chunk of
suitable steel big enough to machine into shape is not going to be
cheap.

Gunner


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Yep...Gunner is right...the machine is a parts machine...pay
accordingly.

TMT

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Thanks for the sound advise, but now my balloon has been deflated. Any
leads on where I can find a 12" or so shaper? I have heard lots of
good things about the Sheldon in this size for hobby so I tend to look
for it but others may know better, any recommendations?. So how about
it, any leads for a shaper in Southern California at a reasonable price
and condition?-- Trg-s338

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On 24 Mar 2006 09:53:30 -0800, "trg-s338"
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Thanks for the sound advise, but now my balloon has been deflated. Any
leads on where I can find a 12" or so shaper? I have heard lots of
good things about the Sheldon in this size for hobby so I tend to look
for it but others may know better, any recommendations?. So how about
it, any leads for a shaper in Southern California at a reasonable price
and condition?-- Trg-s338


I believe that I have photos of that Gemoc 16" shaper we discussed.
Its available for $500 and located in Van Nuys California. If I cannot
find the photos..I may be able to swing over there this after noont
after dropping off parts for a customer and take some.


As I recall..the foot print was not all that big,...but it is a
serious shaper

Gunner


"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if
nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace
personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed,
the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of
defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see
police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line
of defense." --Walter Williams


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