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Sheldon shaper
Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a
reasonable deal? The machine was a high school shop tool. The price does not include shipping costs to be incurred. What do you think? What considerations should enter my assessment of this opportunity? How much do you think this baby weighs? It does have a vise. Any input would be appreciated. |
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Sheldon shaper
trg-s338 wrote:
Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a reasonable deal? Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150. GWE |
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Sheldon shaper
Grant Erwin wrote: trg-s338 wrote: Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a reasonable deal? Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150. GWE Agreed. With shapers, the bigger they are the cheaper they are on the used market. John Martin |
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Sheldon shaper
John Martin wrote: Grant Erwin wrote: trg-s338 wrote: Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a reasonable deal? Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150. GWE Agreed. With shapers, the bigger they are the cheaper they are on the used market. John Martin I third that...far over priced...even if it wasn't broken. The only other thing to consider is the vice. Figure that's worth more than half the cost of the rest of the shaper. No vice or bad vice, shaper value goes way down. Good vice and it may have value as a seperate item, even if the rest of the machine is a boat anchor. Koz |
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Koz wrote: I third that...far over priced...even if it wasn't broken. The only other thing to consider is the vice. Figure that's worth more than half the cost of the rest of the shaper. No vice or bad vice, shaper value goes way down. Good vice and it may have value as a seperate item, even if the rest of the machine is a boat anchor. I don't get it. What's so special about a shaper vise? How is it different from a good milling vise? |
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Sheldon shaper
Rex B wrote:
Koz wrote: I third that...far over priced...even if it wasn't broken. The only other thing to consider is the vice. Figure that's worth more than half the cost of the rest of the shaper. No vice or bad vice, shaper value goes way down. Good vice and it may have value as a seperate item, even if the rest of the machine is a boat anchor. I don't get it. What's so special about a shaper vise? How is it different from a good milling vise? Force between the jaws is carried in tension on a shaper vise - no problem with the screw buckling. -- Fred R "It doesn't really take all kinds; there just *are* all kinds". Drop TROU to email. |
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Sheldon shaper
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:17:24 -0800, Grant Erwin
wrote: trg-s338 wrote: Would a Sheldon 12 inch shaper with broken stroke arm for $800.00 be a reasonable deal? Nope, not broken. I'd pay no more than $150. GWE IRRC..that arm is cast iron. So a new one would likely need to be fabricated from scratch. Which is no easy task and getting a chunk of suitable steel big enough to machine into shape is not going to be cheap. Gunner "The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed, the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line of defense." --Walter Williams |
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Yep...Gunner is right...the machine is a parts machine...pay
accordingly. TMT |
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Sheldon shaper
Thanks for the sound advise, but now my balloon has been deflated. Any
leads on where I can find a 12" or so shaper? I have heard lots of good things about the Sheldon in this size for hobby so I tend to look for it but others may know better, any recommendations?. So how about it, any leads for a shaper in Southern California at a reasonable price and condition?-- Trg-s338 |
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Sheldon shaper
On 24 Mar 2006 09:53:30 -0800, "trg-s338"
wrote: Thanks for the sound advise, but now my balloon has been deflated. Any leads on where I can find a 12" or so shaper? I have heard lots of good things about the Sheldon in this size for hobby so I tend to look for it but others may know better, any recommendations?. So how about it, any leads for a shaper in Southern California at a reasonable price and condition?-- Trg-s338 I believe that I have photos of that Gemoc 16" shaper we discussed. Its available for $500 and located in Van Nuys California. If I cannot find the photos..I may be able to swing over there this after noont after dropping off parts for a customer and take some. As I recall..the foot print was not all that big,...but it is a serious shaper Gunner "The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed, the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line of defense." --Walter Williams |
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