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I spotted this truck gassing up next to me Friday, in Pomona
California. I asked the owner if he would mind me taking some pictures
and then posting them on the net. He agreed.

The artist took 3 days to paint this.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gunner...iUSgEBto3WkMMQ

If you want a full sized group of pictures, email me.

The detail is incredible and the ghost figures inside the wall are
fantastic.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Gunner wrote:
I spotted this truck gassing up next to me Friday, in Pomona
California. I asked the owner if he would mind me taking some pictures
and then posting them on the net. He agreed.

The artist took 3 days to paint this.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gunner...iUSgEBto3WkMMQ

If you want a full sized group of pictures, email me.

The detail is incredible and the ghost figures inside the wall are
fantastic.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

The wall would be long enough to reach the moon if it included names of
victims murdered in illegal wars, started by the US!

k

it makes a nice picture, though (artist POV). The composition is
lovely, though ment to be bitter.

-------------------------
stuff builder
www.ioanbarladeanu.ro

A touching tribute to the American fallen in many conflicts, I wonder who
will build one big enough for the name of all the Iraqi civilians who have
died.

Gunner wrote:
I spotted this truck gassing up next to me Friday, in Pomona
California. I asked the owner if he would mind me taking some pictures
and then posting them on the net. He agreed.

The artist took 3 days to paint this.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gunner...iUSgEBto3WkMMQ

That is awesome and moving. The artist is gifted and the owner's heart
is in the right place.
--
Fred R
"It doesn't really take all kinds; there just *are* all kinds".
Drop TROU to email.

I'm sure you're referring to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians
killed by Saddam over the last 25 years, right?

"Northern Raider" wrote in message
...
A touching tribute to the American fallen in many conflicts, I wonder who
will build one big enough for the name of all the Iraqi civilians who have
died.

Here's one you won't hear on the top 40 ****ry station-

Vietnam Vet with a cardboard sign
Sitting there by the left turn line
Flag on the wheelchair flapping in the breeze
One leg missing, both hands free
No one's paying much mind to him
The V.A. budget's stretched so thin
And there's more comin' home from the Mideast war
We can't make it here anymore

That big ol' building was the textile mill
It fed our kids and it paid our bills
But they turned us out and they closed the doors
We can't make it here anymore
See all those pallets piled up on the loading dock
They're just gonna set there till they rot
'Cause there's nothing to ship, nothing to pack
Just busted concrete and rusted tracks
Empty storefronts around the square
There's a needle in the gutter and glass everywhere
You don't come down here 'less you're looking to score
We can't make it here anymore

The bar's still open but man it's slow
The tip jar's light and the register's low
The bartender don't have much to say
The regular crowd gets thinner each day
Some have maxed out all their credit cards
Some are workin? two jobs and livin? in cars
Minimum wage won't pay for a roof, won't pay for a drink
If you gotta have proof just try it yourself Mr. CEO
See how far 5.15 an hour will go
Take a part time job at one of your stores
Bet you can't make it here anymore

High school girl with a bourgeois dream
Just like the pictures in the magazine
She found on the floor of the laundromat
A woman with kids can forget all that
If she comes up pregnant what'll she do
Forget the career, forget about school
Can she live on faith? live on hope?
High on Jesus or hooked on dope
When it's way too late to just say no
You can't make it here anymore

Now I'm stocking shirts in the Wal-Mart store
Just like the ones we made before
'Cept this one came from Singapore
I guess we can't make it here anymore
Should I hate a people for the shade of their skin
Or the shape of their eyes or the shape I'm in
Should I hate 'em for having our jobs today
No I hate the men sent the jobs away
I can see them all now, they haunt my dreams
All lily white and squeaky clean
They've never known want, they'll never know need
Their **** don't stink and their kids won't bleed
Their kids won't bleed in the damn little war
And we can't make it here anymore

Will work for food
Will die for oil
Will kill for power and to us the spoils
The billionaires get to pay less tax
The working poor get to fall through the cracks
Let 'em eat jellybeans let 'em eat cake
Let 'em eat ****, whatever it takes
They can join the Air Force, or join the Corps
If they can't make it here anymore

And that's how it is
That's what we got
If the president wants to admit it or not
You can read it in the paper
Read it on the wall
Hear it on the wind If you're listening at all
Get out of that limo
Look us in the eye
Call us on the cell phone
Tell us all why
In Dayton, Ohio
Or Portland, Maine
Or a cotton gin out on the great high plains
That's done closed down along with the school
And the hospital and the swimming pool
Dust devils dance in the noonday heat
There's rats in the alley
And trash in the street
Gang graffiti on a boxcar door
We can't make it here anymore

Music and lyrics © 2004 by James McMurtry

Ken wrote:

The wall would be long enough to reach the moon if it included names of
victims murdered in illegal wars, started by the US!

k

Odd that we never hear of British involvement in illegal wars.

Northern Raider wrote:
A touching tribute to the American fallen in many conflicts, I wonder who
will build one big enough for the name of all the Iraqi civilians who have
died.

Rifleman, you may have finally found a use for yourself. You could
set yourself up as the CEO of a not-for-profit corporation to
memorialize all of the Iraqi civilians. Set up a meeting in Iraq where
they then take you hostage, and force your non-profit to pay a ransom
for your useless carcass. In the end, they won't care and neither will
you. At present, your idea of memorializing the Iraqi is merely to
earn message points on m.s.

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:39:14 GMT, "Siggy"
wrote:

I'm sure you're referring to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians
killed by Saddam over the last 25 years, right?

"Northern Raider" wrote in message
...
A touching tribute to the American fallen in many conflicts, I wonder who
will build one big enough for the name of all the Iraqi civilians who have
died.

No, he is reffering to all those murdered by the British in Northern
Ireland. NR is a retired Brit trooper who killed kids in NI.

He misses the work.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Gunner wrote:
I spotted this truck gassing up next to me Friday, in Pomona
California. I asked the owner if he would mind me taking some pictures
and then posting them on the net. He agreed.

The artist took 3 days to paint this.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gunner...iUSgEBto3WkMMQ

If you want a full sized group of pictures, email me.

The detail is incredible and the ghost figures inside the wall are
fantastic.

That is SPOOKY. That artist is a REAL pro!

Jon

No, he is reffering to all those murdered by the British in Northern
Ireland. NR is a retired Brit trooper who killed kids in NI.

He misses the work.

Gunner

Naaa the responsibility for the 3000 plus dead in ulster , lies neatly in
the hands of the Marxist IRA and the millions or Irish American yanks who
sent them money and guns, The US is a major member of the axis of evil.

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On 5 Mar 2006 06:56:37 -0800, wrote:

Here's one you won't hear on the top 40 ****ry station-

Vietnam Vet with a cardboard sign
Sitting there by the left turn line
Flag on the wheelchair flapping in the breeze
One leg missing, both hands free
No one's paying much mind to him
The V.A. budget's stretched so thin

The neocons reduced the funding.

And there's more comin' home from the Mideast war
We can't make it here anymore

Average wait in now many months ...... if they ever ...
--
Cliff

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:42:48 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

A touching tribute to the American fallen in many conflicts, I wonder who
will build one big enough for the name of all the Iraqi civilians who have
died.

----at the hands of their own countrymen.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:18:30 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

No, he is reffering to all those murdered by the British in Northern
Ireland. NR is a retired Brit trooper who killed kids in NI.

He misses the work.

Gunner

Naaa the responsibility for the 3000 plus dead in ulster , lies neatly in
the hands of the Marxist IRA and the millions or Irish American yanks who
sent them money and guns, The US is a major member of the axis of evil.

And no blame can be attached to those who march on July 12
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On 5 Mar 2006 00:21:56 -0800, "Ken"
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
I spotted this truck gassing up next to me Friday, in Pomona
California. I asked the owner if he would mind me taking some pictures
and then posting them on the net. He agreed.

The artist took 3 days to paint this.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gunner...iUSgEBto3WkMMQ

If you want a full sized group of pictures, email me.

The detail is incredible and the ghost figures inside the wall are
fantastic.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

The wall would be long enough to reach the moon if it included names of
victims murdered in illegal wars, started by the US!

k

How far would it stretch and how many names would be on it if we had a
wall dedicated to the victims of leftism, socialism, communism and
marxism?

Gunner, sorry about profaining the wall to make a point. Just in case
no one has said it lately to you and all of the veterans who read
these words; Thank you for your service and welcome home.

R

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:18:30 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

No, he is reffering to all those murdered by the British in Northern
Ireland. NR is a retired Brit trooper who killed kids in NI.

He misses the work.

Gunner

Naaa the responsibility for the 3000 plus dead in ulster , lies neatly in
the hands of the Marxist IRA and the millions or Irish American yanks who
sent them money and guns, The US is a major member of the axis of evil.

Your lot made the guns necessary..and have for several hundred years,
well back into longbow times.

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:41:59 GMT, Gunner wrote:

Your lot made the guns necessary..and have for several hundred years,
well back into longbow times.

Wingers start & maintain wars. They love them.
Found those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

Yes but the Brits have advanced since the 1700s, where as the yanks are
still killing, invading and losing wars ,BTW It was the Irish starving the
irish, not lets see, How well did the native americans fair on the
reservations, even after ALL the broken treaties by the yanks ??

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

Yes but the Brits have advanced since the 1700s, where as the yanks are
still killing, invading and losing wars ,BTW It was the Irish starving the
irish, not lets see,

http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html
--
Cliff

Muralists are quite a crafty group. I stumbled (literally) upon one
today. san Diego has a rep for this work and it is not graffitti. Nice
art. Peaceful and sligtly folksy.
Thet may prefer a different description but, hey it's art not industry
although heaps of industriousness was involved

The footnote says it all " Author and SATIRIST"

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:10:36 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

The footnote says it all " Author and SATIRIST"

Is that like a devil worshiper?
http://www.itpremium.com/portfolio/2dgraphics/satyr.jpg
--
Cliff

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

Yes but the Brits have advanced since the 1700s, where as the yanks are
still killing, invading and losing wars ,BTW It was the Irish starving the
irish, not lets see, How well did the native americans fair on the
reservations, even after ALL the broken treaties by the yanks ??

Advanced? Of course you have . Now you are using armored cars instead
of horses and Fals instead of swords, pikes and muskets. But dead
Irish kids are still dead irish kids, no matter how you managed to
butcher them.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Gunner, I liked the pic, but if you want us to see it . Send it to our
newsgroup only. You just caused a lot of pollution to RCM.

Ive already plonked Cliff and some others who dont provide value to the ng.
But you have provided value , but I am almost to the point of plonking you
also. I really come to this newgroup for metal related issues.
I am going to start plonking all political posters and repliers to those
postings. Also I need a used d1-4 backplate if anybody wants to sell or
trade.

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:30:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

Advanced? Of course you have . Now you are using armored cars instead
of horses and Fals instead of swords, pikes and muskets. But dead
Irish kids are still dead irish kids, no matter how you managed to
butcher them.

The tragedy of the Irish is 700 years of alignments with the losing
side. Always rushing to join in just as absolute defeat raises its
head.

Northern Raider wrote:
It was the Irish starving the irish,

Bull****, the lords were english.

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:55:59 +1100, Terry Collins
wrote:

Northern Raider wrote:
It was the Irish starving the irish,

Bull****, the lords were english.

???

Perhaps in Ulster. However, that is just 6 counties, what of the other
20? BTW the famine was most severe in the South and West.

Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

Yes but the Brits have advanced since the 1700s, where as the yanks are
still killing, invading and losing wars ,BTW It was the Irish starving the
irish, not lets see, How well did the native americans fair on the
reservations, even after ALL the broken treaties by the yanks ??

Advanced? Of course you have . Now you are using armored cars instead
of horses and Fals instead of swords, pikes and muskets. But dead
Irish kids are still dead irish kids, no matter how you managed to
butcher them.

Gunner

Dead Iraqi kids and dead Vietnamese kids are just as much kids , and
just as dead , no matter how you butchered them ...

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

--
Eat well , stay fit , and die healthy .

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:42:32 +0000, Guido
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:55:59 +1100, Terry Collins
wrote:

Northern Raider wrote:
It was the Irish starving the irish,

Bull****, the lords were english.

???

Perhaps in Ulster. However, that is just 6 counties, what of the other
20? BTW the famine was most severe in the South and West.

You might want to brush up on your history. At the time of
the famine the British controlled all of Ireland.

--
Robert Sturgeon
Summum ius summa inuria.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:50:57 -0800, Robert Sturgeon
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:42:32 +0000, Guido
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:55:59 +1100, Terry Collins
wrote:

Northern Raider wrote:
It was the Irish starving the irish,

Bull****, the lords were english.

???

Perhaps in Ulster. However, that is just 6 counties, what of the other
20? BTW the famine was most severe in the South and West.

You might want to brush up on your history. At the time of
the famine the British controlled all of Ireland.

Indeed. There is a rather fascinating book on the subject....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031...lance&n=283155

Damnable Question: A Study of Anglo-Irish Relations (Paperback)
by George Dangerfield

# Publisher: Little Brown & Co (Pap) (June 1978)
# ISBN: 0316172014

While the main subject is from 1916-1921...it gives extensive
background information on the subject..the various Irish Times of
Starvation and so forth

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:31:01 +1100, myal wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

Yes but the Brits have advanced since the 1700s, where as the yanks are
still killing, invading and losing wars ,BTW It was the Irish starving the
irish, not lets see, How well did the native americans fair on the
reservations, even after ALL the broken treaties by the yanks ??

Advanced? Of course you have . Now you are using armored cars instead
of horses and Fals instead of swords, pikes and muskets. But dead
Irish kids are still dead irish kids, no matter how you managed to
butcher them.

Gunner

Dead Iraqi kids and dead Vietnamese kids are just as much kids , and
just as dead , no matter how you butchered them ...

The only viet kids we targeted were those that were armed with machine
guns and satchel charges.

The Poms killed kids for being out after curfew, or walking down the
street.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:31:01 +1100, myal wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC), "Northern Raider"
wrote:

But then..you Brits always were a bloody handed lot.

Im sure your ancestors were starving the Irish back at least 300 yrs

Gunner

Yes but the Brits have advanced since the 1700s, where as the yanks are
still killing, invading and losing wars ,BTW It was the Irish starving the
irish, not lets see, How well did the native americans fair on the
reservations, even after ALL the broken treaties by the yanks ??

Advanced? Of course you have . Now you are using armored cars instead
of horses and Fals instead of swords, pikes and muskets. But dead
Irish kids are still dead irish kids, no matter how you managed to
butcher them.

Gunner

Dead Iraqi kids and dead Vietnamese kids are just as much kids , and
just as dead , no matter how you butchered them ...

The only viet kids we targeted were those that were armed with machine
guns and satchel charges.

The Poms killed kids for being out after curfew, or walking down the
street.

Gunner

Killing kids is part of being a soldier .

israelis do it , yanks poms aussies congonese ....

the reasons and fears that promts the killings is differing shades of
**** , once you got a gun in your hand doing a mission for your beloved
leader ,youre in the position that the child is the threat you got to
kill it or be killed .

Doesnt make the kid less dead or make it right in anyway .

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

--
Eat well , stay fit , and die healthy .

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:30:17 GMT, Gunner wrote:

Now you are using armored cars instead

Not welcomed with open arms, eh?

[
U.S. troops had been welcomed "with open arms" in Iraq.
] - Herr shrubbie

"The fruits of all our soldiers' efforts are clearly visible in the streets of
Kirkuk today,"

"We're making good progress in Iraq,"

"We're making great progress -- I don't care what you read about."

"Sometimes it's hard to tell it when you listen to the filter."

"worthless assurances that the US would be welcomed with open arms"

"Bush will not exactly be welcomed with open arms in Paris"

Pretty safe in those armored cars while inside the fortified
"green zones", are they?
--
Cliff

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:10:53 GMT, Gunner wrote:

Dead Iraqi kids and dead Vietnamese kids are just as much kids , and
just as dead , no matter how you butchered them ...

The only viet kids we targeted were those that were armed with machine
guns and satchel charges.

How was Mei Lei & the carpet bombing for you?
The cluster bombs & mines are still killing & maiming a great many.
Much chemical damage as well .. all sorts of birth defects, etc ....

Enjoy.
--
Cliff

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:50:57 -0800, Robert Sturgeon wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:42:32 +0000, Guido
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:55:59 +1100, Terry Collins
wrote:

Northern Raider wrote:
It was the Irish starving the irish,

Bull****, the lords were english.

???

Perhaps in Ulster. However, that is just 6 counties, what of the other
20? BTW the famine was most severe in the South and West.

You might want to brush up on your history. At the time of
the famine the British controlled all of Ireland.

Pretty funny, lecturing the British on their own history ...
Winger's Disease?
--
Cliff

Pretty funny, lecturing the British on their own history ...
Winger's Disease?
--
Cliff

Oh its just another sad little yank having to dig through history to try and
justify his own sad pathetic nations murderous rampages today, Britain
certainly did some nasty things 200 years ago, but we also did lots of good
things like fighting against slavery, so beloved of the yanks. but as i said
before Britain has advanced in the last 200 years where as the US still
holds people for years without charge or representation in gulags like
Gitmo.

The only viet kids we targeted were those that were armed with machine
guns and satchel charges.

Yeah just like in Mi Lai

The Poms killed kids for being out after curfew, or walking down the
street.

Gunner

Naaa, No curfews in Ulster and as far as I know the only dead kids were two
who drove a stolen cars at high speed into an army patrol, mind you hundreds
more kids died thanks to the yanks sending all that money along with lots of
guns to trhe IRA, but thats yanks for you.

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