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Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work. |
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![]() "The man was lost and then he was found and now he's more lost than ever -- and he's taking us into the darkness with him." "And then you read the paper and realize the country is led by a man who isn't paying attention, and you hope that somebody will poke him. Or put a sign on his desk that says, "Try Much Harder."" "The man was lost and then he was found and now he's more lost than ever, plus being blind." "From within the Pentagon bureaucracy, he did battle against Donald Rumsfeld and John Yoo at the Justice Department and shadowy figures taking orders from Dick (Gunner) Cheney, arguing America had ratified the Geneva Convention that forbids cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of prisoners, and so it has the force of law. They seemed to be arguing that the president has the right to order prisoners to be tortured." "Wiretap surveillance of Americans without a warrant? Great. Go for it." "Wiretap surveillance of Americans without a warrant? Great. Go for it." "According to the leaders of the bipartisan 9/11 Commission, our country is practically as vulnerable today as it was on 9/10. Our seaports are wide open, our airspace is not secure except for the nation's capital, and little has been done about securing the nuclear bomb materials lying around in the world." "The U.S. Constitution provides a simple ultimate way to hold him to account for war crimes and the failure to attend to the country's defense." http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature...03/01/keillor/ By Garrison Keillor HTH -- Cliff |
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Bush perpetuates irrational fears ....
By Josh Macdonald DAILY BRUIN COLUMNIST [ Much can be said about the incompetence of the current U.S. government, but it's hard to argue that they don't seem to have the well-being and security of the American people in mind. During the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, President Bush made it clear that his thoughts on the disaster, however limited, were focused on those in the most need. In a quote from The Washington Post, President Bush took the time during a press conference to reference the immense loss: "Out of the rubbles of (Sen.) Trent Lott's house – he lost his entire house – there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." If there's one thing the Bush administration really understands, it's that government is all about providing security – or in Bush's case, the illusion of security. I'm talking about the good old-fashioned neighborhood watch variety, where everybody benefits but the criminals. Where loaded rifles and shotguns hang on the walls in every house. Where an itchy feeling in the air is enough to lure an armed posse out into the streets. Step one: Find a legitimate threat to public well-being. Then, turn it into an irrational fear you can manipulate the public with at any time. How would we know how scared to be if it wasn't for the Homeland Security color chart? ] More good stuff ... -- Cliff |
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From a power perspective (the only way to correctly view any
bureacracy) the gov't has nothing to lose and everything to gain from further attacks. D |
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Is this what they call "junk food"?
RM "Cliff" wrote in message ... "The man was lost and then he was found and now he's more lost than ever -- and he's taking us into the darkness with him." "And then you read the paper and realize the country is led by a man who isn't paying attention, and you hope that somebody will poke him. Or put a sign on his desk that says, "Try Much Harder."" "The man was lost and then he was found and now he's more lost than ever, plus being blind." "From within the Pentagon bureaucracy, he did battle against Donald Rumsfeld and John Yoo at the Justice Department and shadowy figures taking orders from Dick (Gunner) Cheney, arguing America had ratified the Geneva Convention that forbids cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of prisoners, and so it has the force of law. They seemed to be arguing that the president has the right to order prisoners to be tortured." "Wiretap surveillance of Americans without a warrant? Great. Go for it." "Wiretap surveillance of Americans without a warrant? Great. Go for it." "According to the leaders of the bipartisan 9/11 Commission, our country is practically as vulnerable today as it was on 9/10. Our seaports are wide open, our airspace is not secure except for the nation's capital, and little has been done about securing the nuclear bomb materials lying around in the world." "The U.S. Constitution provides a simple ultimate way to hold him to account for war crimes and the failure to attend to the country's defense." http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature...03/01/keillor/ By Garrison Keillor HTH -- Cliff |
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