A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

Ouch.

Sure hope your not a republician. The democraps around here will be calling
for the grand jury for you having an accident.


"/." wrote in message
. ..
A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

I want to look at your link, just like I want to look at the link posted on
Hobart's forum regarding a angle grinder accident, but I just can't do it.
The sight of blood makes me absolutely sick.

"/." wrote in message
. ..
A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

Ya pansy. I hurt myself worse shaving every morning.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

/. wrote:
A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...




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"AL" wrote in message
...
I want to look at your link, just like I want to look at the link posted
on
Hobart's forum regarding a angle grinder accident, but I just can't do it.
The sight of blood makes me absolutely sick.

Chuckle!

You should be able to handle this one, then. Looks like a ring came in
contact with something electrical-----no blood involved. A red ring around
the finger----skin fully intact. I'd say it's rare to medium rare, but
only on the surface.

Harold

/. wrote:

A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

You go to the ER because of that!?
Say, what do you do if you _hurt_ yourself? Have an emergency funeral?


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That's why companies require the removal of jewelry / watches when
working on equipment. Wifie gets angry when I forget to put it back on.
Who would want me anyway ? Sigh.......
/. wrote:
A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

/. wrote:
A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

I'm guessing you shorted out a car battery using your wedding band,
maybe an alternator replacement? From the skin damage I would guess
that it was not the back of your hand that did the shorting.

I note you wrote "was wearing". Any damage to the wedding band? I've
seen noticable chunks get molten etc in similar shorts on hand tools.
Did the band stay on to the emergency room or what?

That's gonna hurt for a while till all the skin comes back... I've
gotten similar burns on the palm of my hand and it gets worse before it
gets better. Surprisngly no scarring (maybe because I was younger at
the time?)

Tim.

In article , /. says...

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

The technical term is:

Ring Avulsion.

Jim


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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:10:21 -0600, AL wrote:
I want to look at your link, just like I want to look at the link posted on
Hobart's forum regarding a angle grinder accident, but I just can't do it.
The sight of blood makes me absolutely sick.

It's not that bad. Well, I should qualify that by saying I've been an
EMT for a dozen years, so "not that bad" from me could mean pretty much
anything. But it's not that bad, my guess is chemical burn.

carneyke wrote:

That's why companies require the removal of jewelry / watches when
working on equipment. Wifie gets angry when I forget to put it back on.
Who would want me anyway ? Sigh.......
/. wrote:

I stopped wearing any and all jewelry
about 30 years ago. Except my wedding
band when I go out of town.

My wife was once an electronics tech
and she's fine with it.




A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...

/. wrote:
A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...



I theenk........


1) You were 1500 miles away from home on a business trip, sipping your
third nightcap at 11:30PM in the hotel bar.

2) A knockout blonde ambled in and parked her georgeous fanny onto a
barstool two seats to the right of you.

3) In your haste to ditch that wedding ring into your pocket, and with
your hands out of sight under the bar, you yank so hard on it that the
friction burns your skin.

QED

Jeff (DAMHIKT)



PS If it was on a more private part of your anatomy I would have had an
opportunity to offer this limerick:

There once was a young man from Gruel,
With a rosy red ring 'round his tool.
He went to the clinic.
Said the doctor, a cynic,
"That's only some lipstick you fool!"

JW

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(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."

That's nothing - last week I popped a welding rod into one ear and it
came out the other. No trip to the emergency room - I just left it in
place. Great reception on my iPod.
Greg

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:37:58 -0800, "/." wrote:

A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...


Yo Yo string?

I saw a friend pull off his class ring right after it arched over to
the frame working on a live starter cable, took all the skin off and
he didn't say more than five cuss words.

In article ,
"/." wrote:

A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...



So, you gonna spill what your (rather minor-looking) stupid was, or
leave us guessing?

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I put a coffee can lid into the bone of my right index fingertip a
couple weeks ago and instead of going to get 10-12 stitches (for
"only" $1,000) at the ER, I cleaned and butterflied it together with

****, that's a bargin! I had medical insurance and STILL paid almost
$1000 US for 4 damned stitches in my knuckle when I busted it open a few
years back... yeah yeah, I was sword fighting but I was wearing ARMOUR!
The best part is, a med student did it and I still paid the Doctor to
look at her work, AND she left me with bad scarring.

Mike in Warrensburg

I want to look at your link, just like I want to look at the link posted
on
Hobart's forum regarding a angle grinder accident, but I just can't do
it.
The sight of blood makes me absolutely sick.

Chuckle!

You should be able to handle this one, then. Looks like a ring came in
contact with something electrical-----no blood involved. A red ring
around
the finger----skin fully intact. I'd say it's rare to medium rare, but
only on the surface.

Harold

That is what I thought it looked like as well! Hence the photos and the
posting.

Actually it was a tall cafe americano from an espresso stand at our local
grocery store. I purchased the americano for my wife and a latte for
myself, turned around and realized that my wife wasn't behind me anymore,
stacked both drinks in my right hand to move the shopping cart and over the
americano went. Stupid reactions did me in, I stuck my left hand out to
catch it and the top came off emptying the contents right onto my hand. I
wear a simple platinum wedding band and am guessing that it retained a bunch
of the heat energy (or just allowed the coffee to pool up) and directed it
into my finger, which is why the burn is so much deeper where the ring sat.
Reactions again - I shook the coffee off and yanked the ring off... that is
when I decided that a trip to the ER was in order since it took a fair chunk
of the skin with it as I yanked the ring off.

All in all a *really* stupid way to hurt oneself. I now know that an
americano is made by mixing a shot or two of espresso with boiling water,
and exactly what dumping a cup of nearly boiling water onto your hand feels
like. I also have a little more empathy for that lady the sued McD's over
the coffee in the lap episode, and no, I would never even consider trying to
sue someone else for my own stupidity.

For you guys giving me gump for hitting the ER over such a 'minor' issue - I
have good health insurance, why not use it when I need it? Once every 9
year or so isn't too bad of a record!

Sunworshipper wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:37:58 -0800, "/." wrote:

A moment of inattention Sunday afternoon lead to my first visit to the
emergency room in about 9 years.

Graphic photos of a fresh injury, not too bad though:
http://www.oz.net/~dans/ouch/default.htm

Metalworking content: I was wearing a wedding band...


Yo Yo string?

I saw a friend pull off his class ring right after it arched over to
the frame working on a live starter cable, took all the skin off and
he didn't say more than five cuss words.
Was that all he knew?

jk

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:00:02 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Mike
Martin quickly quoth:

I put a coffee can lid into the bone of my right index fingertip a
couple weeks ago and instead of going to get 10-12 stitches (for
"only" $1,000) at the ER, I cleaned and butterflied it together with

****, that's a bargin! I had medical insurance and STILL paid almost
$1000 US for 4 damned stitches in my knuckle when I busted it open a few
years back... yeah yeah, I was sword fighting but I was wearing ARMOUR!
The best part is, a med student did it and I still paid the Doctor to
look at her work, AND she left me with bad scarring.

I think you missed the point, Mike. I didn't GO to the ER.
I fixed it myself with a bandaid...for $1,000 less.

That said, I should probably find needles and suture on Ebay.
The trick is preparedness: when you have this stuff handy, the bad
deeds never happen. They're warded off.

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which somehow eases those pains and indignities following
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:36:11 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "/."
quickly quoth:

For you guys giving me gump for hitting the ER over such a 'minor' issue - I
have good health insurance, why not use it when I need it? Once every 9
year or so isn't too bad of a record!

BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO PAYS FOR INSURANCE HAS TO COVER YOUR STUPIDITY
WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS. That's why not.

You chose the $1,000 fix when a $5 one would have done just as well.
(Box of cloth bandaids and a tube of Bacitracin, done in 5 minutes.)

Are you still proud of yourself? Do you work for our gov't, perchance?

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which somehow eases those pains and indignities following
our every deficiency in foresight.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:21:31 -0800, wrote:

That said, I should probably find needles and suture on Ebay.
The trick is preparedness: when you have this stuff handy, the bad
deeds never happen. They're warded off.

Two words, Larry: "Veterinary Supply House".

Dave "yes. I know." Hinz

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:14:46 -0500, Brent Philion wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote:

It's not that bad. Well, I should qualify that by saying I've been an
EMT for a dozen years, so "not that bad" from me could mean pretty much
anything. But it's not that bad, my guess is chemical burn.

Most of us set "Par for the course" at Not needing to see guys like you.
So almost anything you see industrial is likely more than we figure as
"Not that bad"

It pretty much all pales in comparison to PTO accidents and fire
victims. Nuff said on that one...

In article ,
says...


That said, I should probably find needles and suture on Ebay.
The trick is preparedness: when you have this stuff handy, the bad
deeds never happen. They're warded off.


Steri-Strips (3M tm) and tincture of benzoin will take care of many
lacerations that might otherwise require stitches. The Steri-Strips are
like fiberglass reinforced packing tape and the benzoin increases their
adhesion.

http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/firstaid/cutfix.htm

This link says Mastisol is better than benzoin - I'll have to see if I
can find some for the backpacking first aid kit...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2745498&dopt=Abst ract

Ned Simmons

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:41:31 -0800, Don Bruder wrote:
In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:

It pretty much all pales in comparison to PTO accidents and fire
victims.

UGH... PTO accidents are scary in a big way. They generally seem to
require a mop, sponge, squeegee, and about 30 pounds of kitty-litter to
"recover" the victim.

yeah. In this case, the farmer was an hour late coming in for lunch.
Tractor was still running when I got there. All I could do for the guy,
was to turn off the tractor and try to deal with the family members.

I narrowly escaped the full effects of one myself a few years ago when
(apparently, based on what was found when things were deconstructed) a
previously un-noticed horse tail hair caught in the cuff-button of my
jacket sleeve got grabbed by a rough spot on the bell-end of the PTO
shaft guard,
(Snip)

Damn lucky you're alive. Good thing the sleeve let go (to put it
mildly).

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:05:46 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote:

Steri-Strips (3M tm) and tincture of benzoin will take care of many
lacerations that might otherwise require stitches. The Steri-Strips are
like fiberglass reinforced packing tape and the benzoin increases their
adhesion.

http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/firstaid/cutfix.htm

This link says Mastisol is better than benzoin - I'll have to see if I
can find some for the backpacking first aid kit...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2745498&dopt=Abs tract

Ned Simmons


I recently had surgery to repair a cervical disc. The incision was in
my throat and steri-strips were all the surgeon used to close it.
Randy
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In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:41:31 -0800, Don Bruder wrote:
In article ,
Dave Hinz wrote:

It pretty much all pales in comparison to PTO accidents and fire
victims.

UGH... PTO accidents are scary in a big way. They generally seem to
require a mop, sponge, squeegee, and about 30 pounds of kitty-litter to
"recover" the victim.

yeah. In this case, the farmer was an hour late coming in for lunch.
Tractor was still running when I got there. All I could do for the guy,
was to turn off the tractor and try to deal with the family members.

Yeah, that matches almost every one of them I've either witnessed or
heard about.

I narrowly escaped the full effects of one myself a few years ago when
(apparently, based on what was found when things were deconstructed) a
previously un-noticed horse tail hair caught in the cuff-button of my
jacket sleeve got grabbed by a rough spot on the bell-end of the PTO
shaft guard,
(Snip)

Damn lucky you're alive. Good thing the sleeve let go (to put it
mildly).

Since then, you better believe I don't wear anything with sleeves if I
have to be anywhere near a live PTO shaft, and screw the sunburn/cold
that might be involved! "Once bitten, twice shy" might be an old cliche,
but lemme tell ya what, it's *ABSOLUTELY* true. It only takes getting
sucked off a tractor seat once for me to figure out that there's no such
thing as a safe PTO shaft!

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:28:30 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:36:11 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "/."
quickly quoth:

For you guys giving me gump for hitting the ER over such a 'minor' issue - I
have good health insurance, why not use it when I need it? Once every 9
year or so isn't too bad of a record!

BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO PAYS FOR INSURANCE HAS TO COVER YOUR STUPIDITY
WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS. That's why not.

You chose the $1,000 fix when a $5 one would have done just as well.
(Box of cloth bandaids and a tube of Bacitracin, done in 5 minutes.)

Are you still proud of yourself? Do you work for our gov't, perchance?

Personally, I'll strap up a cut, no problem - but burns I have a lot
of respect for. They can turn nasty pretty quick.ANd crush injuries?
to the doc RIGHT AWAY. Insurance or no insurance.
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Don Bruder wrote:
....
have to be anywhere near a live PTO shaft, ...

I wonder why OSHA hasn't "solved" this danger? Does OSHA not cover
farming? I think their charter is to protect employees, but there are
plenty of corporate farms where employees run tractors with PTO's.

Just wondering,
Bob

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:05:30 -0500, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Don Bruder wrote:
...
have to be anywhere near a live PTO shaft, ...

I wonder why OSHA hasn't "solved" this danger? Does OSHA not cover
farming?

I don't think they do, no.

I think their charter is to protect employees, but there are
plenty of corporate farms where employees run tractors with PTO's.

Well, in that case maybe they would, but still - rotating shafts are
pretty much unavoidable in farming. The problems come in when the
mechanisms built in are bypassed or damaged. In the case of the call I
went to, the shear pin in the PTO (which had been flush with the outer
surfaces) had broken at some point, and been replaced by a bolt & nut
which, of course, gave a non-smooth outer surface to the shaft.

It's not a case of the safety equipment not existing, it's a case of it
being used wrong. A bolt on the side of a rotating PTO shaft is a
very effective hooking mechanism. It's unfortunate when someone's
mistake proves fatal, but I can't see how government expense would
improve the situation. PTOs are hardly new; the big warning signs are
all over anything that has one, so it's not about education, it's about
people disregarding all of the warnings and advice. And, of course,
there's always the "**** happens" factor. I don't mean that in an
insensitive way, I mean that in a "sometimes bad things happen and
there's not a damn thing you can do to prevent it" kind of way.

In article ,
Bob Engelhardt wrote:

Don Bruder wrote:
...
have to be anywhere near a live PTO shaft, ...

I wonder why OSHA hasn't "solved" this danger? Does OSHA not cover
farming? I think their charter is to protect employees, but there are
plenty of corporate farms where employees run tractors with PTO's.

Just wondering,
Bob

Probably because there are guards, shields, and whatnot intended to
prevent such happenings, but said guards and such, like so many things
us poor fallible humans come up with, are never 100% effective in every
situation. About the only way to make PTO shafts completely safe is to
not have them at all. Which is somewhat less than practical.

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:21:31 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:00:02 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Mike
Martin quickly quoth:

I put a coffee can lid into the bone of my right index fingertip a
couple weeks ago and instead of going to get 10-12 stitches (for
"only" $1,000) at the ER, I cleaned and butterflied it together with

****, that's a bargin! I had medical insurance and STILL paid almost
$1000 US for 4 damned stitches in my knuckle when I busted it open a few
years back... yeah yeah, I was sword fighting but I was wearing ARMOUR!
The best part is, a med student did it and I still paid the Doctor to
look at her work, AND she left me with bad scarring.

I think you missed the point, Mike. I didn't GO to the ER.
I fixed it myself with a bandaid...for $1,000 less.

That said, I should probably find needles and suture on Ebay.
The trick is preparedness: when you have this stuff handy, the bad
deeds never happen. They're warded off.

OraGel works pretty well for this sort of thing. As does Numbzit,
both of which are for tooth aches. Put a bit in the wound and wait for
a few minutes before sewing it up.

Sealed and sterile sutures can be purchased on Ebay occasionally for
about $3-5, or about $6 from medical supply companies. Tell em its for
veternary care of your livestock. Barbed wire ya know.

Hemostats are handy for this. Sterilized in alcahol of course.

But..unless the wound is huge and wide open..most of the time,
butterflys work pretty good, and a smidge of super glue does too.

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:09:21 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:28:30 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:36:11 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "/."
quickly quoth:

For you guys giving me gump for hitting the ER over such a 'minor' issue - I
have good health insurance, why not use it when I need it? Once every 9
year or so isn't too bad of a record!

BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO PAYS FOR INSURANCE HAS TO COVER YOUR STUPIDITY
WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS. That's why not.

You chose the $1,000 fix when a $5 one would have done just as well.
(Box of cloth bandaids and a tube of Bacitracin, done in 5 minutes.)

Are you still proud of yourself? Do you work for our gov't, perchance?

Personally, I'll strap up a cut, no problem - but burns I have a lot
of respect for. They can turn nasty pretty quick.ANd crush injuries?
to the doc RIGHT AWAY. Insurance or no insurance.
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A burn like that..immediately soak your hand in a glass/bowl of
icewater. ASAP!!!

Keep it soaking for as long as you can stand it

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3

Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Gunner
wrote on Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:20:17 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:09:21 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

Personally, I'll strap up a cut, no problem - but burns I have a lot
of respect for. They can turn nasty pretty quick.ANd crush injuries?
to the doc RIGHT AWAY. Insurance or no insurance.

A burn like that..immediately soak your hand in a glass/bowl of
icewater. ASAP!!!

Keep it soaking for as long as you can stand it

I've seen the "instant ice" packs, pop the inner bag, shake well, apply
to injury and good googly moogly is that cold. (I field tested this after
I hit my thumb stamping a fixture. Despite a solid hit, no bruising. And
I need to replace that pack.)

So, would something like that be effective if you've no ice handy?
(Well, yes, as some cold beats no cold.:-) )

It is interesting the number of tool boxes on the floor with at least a
box of bandages in them. Mine are in the top compartment. Tend to "be in
the way" but, but I know where they are.

tschus
pyotr

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...
Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Gunner

wrote on Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:20:17 GMT in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:09:21 -0500, clare at
snyder.on.ca wrote:

Personally, I'll strap up a cut, no problem -
but burns I have a lot
of respect for. They can turn nasty pretty
quick.ANd crush injuries?
to the doc RIGHT AWAY. Insurance or no
insurance.

A burn like that..immediately soak your hand in
a glass/bowl of
icewater. ASAP!!!

Keep it soaking for as long as you can stand it

I've seen the "instant ice" packs, pop the inner
bag, shake well, apply
to injury and good googly moogly is that cold.
(I field tested this after
I hit my thumb stamping a fixture. Despite a
solid hit, no bruising. And
I need to replace that pack.)

So, would something like that be effective if
you've no ice handy?
(Well, yes, as some cold beats no cold.:-) )

It is interesting the number of tool boxes on
the floor with at least a
box of bandages in them. Mine are in the top
compartment. Tend to "be in
the way" but, but I know where they are.



I've got a spray can of "instant bandaid" on a
shelf over my workbench. I hate it when the usual
minor scrapes and scratches drip blood onto your
work. A quick spray of this stuff stops it and
seals it off from dirt It stays on for a few days,
then just sort of disappears as you wash your
hands.

Useful stuff.

Tom

In article ,
Gunner wrote:

Sealed and sterile sutures can be purchased on Ebay occasionally for
about $3-5, or about $6 from medical supply companies. Tell em its for
veternary care of your livestock. Barbed wire ya know.

Hemostats are handy for this. Sterilized in alcahol of course.

Alcohol is a ****-lousy sterilizing agent, being truly effective against
only a few minor pathogens. Iodine solution is a *MUCH* better choice.

But..unless the wound is huge and wide open..most of the time,
butterflys work pretty good, and a smidge of super glue does too.

Super glue was CREATED for exactly this purpose, and practically works
miracles. I can't count the number of times I probably should have had a
sawbones sink a few stitches, but made do with super glue instead. Quite
a few surgical patients and accident victims have had the wounds closed
with it over the years, too.

Most recent was chopping onions one night for stroganoff. I managed to
misplace a finger, and next thing I knew, I'd laid open the side of my
left middle finger to the bone betwen the back of the nail and the first
joint, with a big ol' flap of meat hanging from it. And hurt? Sweet
mercy, did it ever - Take my word for it: Onion juice in a cut is *NO*
kind of fun! Thankfully, it bled like a stuck pig, so the burning
stopped in fairly short order, but while it lasted... Hoooo, BABY, light
my fire!

Friend of the family who's an EMT desperately wanted me to make the trip
to the ER to have it stitched up. No way I was going for that. Washed it
out, added a drop of super glue and a tight gauze wrap, slipped a
surgical glove on to keep it dry, and I was back in business 15 minutes
later.

I caught hell about "putting too much of myself into my cooking" every
time I walked into the kitchen for weeks afterwards.

Today, I've got a "crescent moon" scar there that looks like somebody
drew it on with paint a shade lighter than the surrounding skin, using
the edge of a razor blade as the brush - It's so hair-line fine that
it's all but invisible.

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:37:37 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Bruder quickly quoth:

In article ,
Gunner wrote:

Sealed and sterile sutures can be purchased on Ebay occasionally for
about $3-5, or about $6 from medical supply companies. Tell em its for
veternary care of your livestock. Barbed wire ya know.

Hemostats are handy for this. Sterilized in alcahol of course.

Alcohol is a ****-lousy sterilizing agent, being truly effective against
only a few minor pathogens. Iodine solution is a *MUCH* better choice.

I prefer povidone + iodine (Betadine on the market.)


But..unless the wound is huge and wide open..most of the time,
butterflys work pretty good, and a smidge of super glue does too.

Super glue was CREATED for exactly this purpose, and practically works
miracles. I can't count the number of times I probably should have had a
sawbones sink a few stitches, but made do with super glue instead. Quite
a few surgical patients and accident victims have had the wounds closed
with it over the years, too.


Most recent was chopping onions one night for stroganoff. I managed to
misplace a finger, and next thing I knew, I'd laid open the side of my
left middle finger to the bone betwen the back of the nail and the first
joint, with a big ol' flap of meat hanging from it. And hurt? Sweet
mercy, did it ever - Take my word for it: Onion juice in a cut is *NO*
kind of fun! Thankfully, it bled like a stuck pig, so the burning
stopped in fairly short order, but while it lasted... Hoooo, BABY, light
my fire!

Beef blood ain't no bettah, bubba.


Friend of the family who's an EMT desperately wanted me to make the trip
to the ER to have it stitched up. No way I was going for that. Washed it
out, added a drop of super glue and a tight gauze wrap, slipped a
surgical glove on to keep it dry, and I was back in business 15 minutes
later.

Atta Boy, Don. I did the same thing when I diced my right thumbnail
in half while cutting stew meat at Mom's one day. She nearly fainted
as I cleansed the wound and dressed it, then got back to work. It was
nearly invisible in 2 weeks, but for the ridge of scar tissue.


I caught hell about "putting too much of myself into my cooking" every
time I walked into the kitchen for weeks afterwards.

Cooking With Mr. Protein! titter How many Donner Party jokes did
you endure? I only got a couple.


Today, I've got a "crescent moon" scar there that looks like somebody
drew it on with paint a shade lighter than the surrounding skin, using
the edge of a razor blade as the brush - It's so hair-line fine that
it's all but invisible.

Right. Cleanse, dry, apply antibiotic, add dressing and time =
disappeared wounds which gave you no grief at all.

My digit I put a can lid through a couple weeks ago is all but healed.
The thing must have hit bone. The bone is still sore but the healed
meat of the fingertip isn't. I'm certainly glad the bone was there at
the time. Blimey, it might have diced me 'arf the way up to me palm.

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:37:37 -0800, Don Bruder
wrote:
Washed it
out, added a drop of super glue and a tight gauze wrap, slipped a
surgical glove on to keep it dry, and I was back in business 15 minutes
later.

What's the correct procedure? Apply the glue into the cut or just over
the surface?
Randy
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In article ,
Randy Replogle wrote:

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:37:37 -0800, Don Bruder
wrote:
Washed it
out, added a drop of super glue and a tight gauze wrap, slipped a
surgical glove on to keep it dry, and I was back in business 15 minutes
later.

What's the correct procedure? Apply the glue into the cut or just over
the surface?
Randy

Dunno if it's "correct", but the only procedure that makes even a tiny
bit of sense to me is to lay the skin-flap back/pinch the cut open, put
the drop directly on the raw meat of one side or the other of the wound,
then put the flap back into place/let the cut close, and apply pressure
for a few seconds until the glue sets. Hasn't failed me yet.

Laying the glue on "over" the wound makes about as much sense as trying
to stick two pieces of ObMetal together by laying them on top of each
other and applying a layer of paint to the edges.

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Don Bruder wrote:
... lay the skin-flap back/pinch the cut open, put
the drop directly on the raw meat of one side ...

What about bleeding? How do you get adhesion with all the blood?
Bob

Gunner wrote:
A burn like that..immediately soak your hand in a glass/bowl of
icewater. ASAP!!!

Keep it soaking for as long as you can stand it

I used to do that - still got a lot of pain & blistering afterward. So
I stopped and I don't see the difference.
YMMV,
Bob