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Parkerizing requires Maganese dioxide and phosphoric acid, plus a bit
of iron (steel wool or filings) in boiling water. Would it be possible to use the manganese dioxide from a standard (non alkaline) dry cell? If I rinsed the mixture with water, the ammonium chloride, being soluable in water, should wash out. The manganese dioxide, being non-soluable in water, but soluable in acid, should remain??? Or alkaline battery - rinse out the sodium or potassium hydroxide(alkalie)? What is another easy to get sourse for manganese dioxide???? |
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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote in message ... Parkerizing requires Maganese dioxide and phosphoric acid, plus a bit of iron (steel wool or filings) in boiling water. Would it be possible to use the manganese dioxide from a standard (non alkaline) dry cell? If I rinsed the mixture with water, the ammonium chloride, being soluable in water, should wash out. The manganese dioxide, being non-soluable in water, but soluable in acid, should remain??? Or alkaline battery - rinse out the sodium or potassium hydroxide(alkalie)? What is another easy to get sourse for manganese dioxide???? |
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:40:36 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
Parkerizing requires Maganese dioxide and phosphoric acid, plus a bit of iron (steel wool or filings) in boiling water. Would it be possible to use the manganese dioxide from a standard (non alkaline) dry cell? If I rinsed the mixture with water, the ammonium chloride, being soluable in water, should wash out. The manganese dioxide, being non-soluable in water, but soluable in acid, should remain??? Or alkaline battery - rinse out the sodium or potassium hydroxide(alkalie)? What is another easy to get sourse for manganese dioxide???? Google gives http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/Chem-Rgnts/C2044 Pete Keillor |
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Try www.skylighter.com clare wrote: Parkerizing requires Maganese dioxide and phosphoric acid, plus a bit of iron (steel wool or filings) in boiling water. Would it be possible to use the manganese dioxide from a standard (non alkaline) dry cell? If I rinsed the mixture with water, the ammonium chloride, being soluable in water, should wash out. The manganese dioxide, being non-soluable in water, but soluable in acid, should remain??? Or alkaline battery - rinse out the sodium or potassium hydroxide(alkalie)? What is another easy to get sourse for manganese dioxide???? |
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:41:32 -0500, Pete Keillor
wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:40:36 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote: Parkerizing requires Maganese dioxide and phosphoric acid, plus a bit of iron (steel wool or filings) in boiling water. Would it be possible to use the manganese dioxide from a standard (non alkaline) dry cell? If I rinsed the mixture with water, the ammonium chloride, being soluable in water, should wash out. The manganese dioxide, being non-soluable in water, but soluable in acid, should remain??? Or alkaline battery - rinse out the sodium or potassium hydroxide(alkalie)? What is another easy to get sourse for manganese dioxide???? Google gives http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/Chem-Rgnts/C2044 Pete Keillor There have to be better sources, cost-wise, than chemical supply houses. I've just heard ceramic supply houses carry it at less than HALF the price. |
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:29:34 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca clare wrote:
There have to be better sources, cost-wise, than chemical supply houses. I've just heard ceramic supply houses carry it at less than HALF the price. Well, you don't need food-grade USP 99.9999% pure... |
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On 10 Jan 2006 17:11:39 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:29:34 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca clare wrote: There have to be better sources, cost-wise, than chemical supply houses. I've just heard ceramic supply houses carry it at less than HALF the price. Well, you don't need food-grade USP 99.9999% pure... Found both manganese dioxide and zinc oxide for less than $8 canadian per kilogram at a local pottery supply. Will pick up tomorrow - less than 10 miles from home. |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:09:10 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca clare wrote:
On 10 Jan 2006 17:11:39 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Well, you don't need food-grade USP 99.9999% pure... Found both manganese dioxide and zinc oxide for less than $8 canadian per kilogram at a local pottery supply. Will pick up tomorrow - less than 10 miles from home. Ah, excellent. I'll have to check that out. I've got the sandblast cabinet and the information, and now sounds like I've got a lead on the chemicals. Thanks for the followup! Dave Hinz |
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On 11 Jan 2006 04:22:40 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:09:10 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca clare wrote: On 10 Jan 2006 17:11:39 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Well, you don't need food-grade USP 99.9999% pure... Found both manganese dioxide and zinc oxide for less than $8 canadian per kilogram at a local pottery supply. Will pick up tomorrow - less than 10 miles from home. Ah, excellent. I'll have to check that out. I've got the sandblast cabinet and the information, and now sounds like I've got a lead on the chemicals. Thanks for the followup! Dave Hinz Apparently Titanium Dioxide, used as a white pigment, is the active ingredient in the pre-wash. After cleaning and degreasing you dip in the Ti solution, and then, without drying, into the Park solution. |
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