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On 18 Dec 2003 13:41:42 -0800, jim rozen said: In article , DT says... Yep, I've seen it happen also. I guess the average citizen is pretty shocked to think of people walking around in a cloud of *damn* cold nitrogen with liquid on the floor, but we did it all the time. Ha ha. I was putting some LN2 into a small hand dewar one time, outside a co-workers's lab. I made the comment to him that the LN2 worked *great* at removing floor tiles and he said that was bull****, it would never do that. So I simply poured a small steady stream onto the floor and sure enough that tile fractured into a hundred pieces and the mastic let loose on about half of them. You should have heard the crying and wailing, "look what you just did to the floor outside *my* lab!!" Once an asshole, always an asshole. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:26:24 -0800, Ken Davey whined: Jim Frozen wrote: On 18 Dec 2003 13:41:42 -0800, jim rozen said: Once an asshole, always an asshole. Yup PLONK SPANK! |
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"Jim Frozen" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:26:24 -0800, Ken Davey whined: Jim Frozen wrote: On 18 Dec 2003 13:41:42 -0800, jim rozen said: Once an asshole, always an asshole. Yup PLONK SPANK! sPnAk! |
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Jim Frozen wrote:
On 18 Dec 2003 13:41:42 -0800, jim rozen said: Once an asshole, always an asshole. Yup PLONK |
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"Gary Coffman" wrote in message
... The magnitude of the forces trying to break those weak intermolecular bonds increases with temperature. Shoving them closer together with pressure isn't enough, above the critical temperature, to get them to stay in the liquid state because the pressure alone can't compensate for thermal agitation, ie the force vectors don't line up in opposition often enough to cancel out throughout the bulk of the material. So just below critical, does the necessary pressure increase exponentially (I should really say like a 1/x (inverse) curve), until after critical it takes infinite pressure? Tim -- "That's for the courts to decide." - Homer Simpson Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms |
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Jim Frozen wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:26:24 -0800, Ken Davey whined: Jim Frozen wrote: On 18 Dec 2003 13:41:42 -0800, jim rozen said: Once an asshole, always an asshole. Yup PLONK SPANK! Cute. Got any more addresses to let you get in the last word? FLUSH |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:33:31 -0600, "Tim Williams" wrote:
"Gary Coffman" wrote in message .. . The magnitude of the forces trying to break those weak intermolecular bonds increases with temperature. Shoving them closer together with pressure isn't enough, above the critical temperature, to get them to stay in the liquid state because the pressure alone can't compensate for thermal agitation, ie the force vectors don't line up in opposition often enough to cancel out throughout the bulk of the material. So just below critical, does the necessary pressure increase exponentially (I should really say like a 1/x (inverse) curve), until after critical it takes infinite pressure? The pressure increases from the atmospheric liquification temperature to 492 PSI at the critical temperature. Gary |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:33:31 -0600, "Tim Williams"
wrote: "Gary Coffman" wrote in message .. . The magnitude of the forces trying to break those weak intermolecular bonds increases with temperature. Shoving them closer together with pressure isn't enough, above the critical temperature, to get them to stay in the liquid state because the pressure alone can't compensate for thermal agitation, ie the force vectors don't line up in opposition often enough to cancel out throughout the bulk of the material. So just below critical, does the necessary pressure increase exponentially (I should really say like a 1/x (inverse) curve), until after critical it takes infinite pressure? Tim No. Think of a supercritical fluid as one in which there is no difference between liquid and gas. The highest performance steam boilers for power stations produce steam under supercritical conditions. This url might help:- http://www.chem.leeds.ac.uk/People/CMR/whatarescf.html Regards Mark Rand RTFM |
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In article , Mark Rand says...
Think of a supercritical fluid as one in which there is no difference between liquid and gas. The highest performance steam boilers for power stations produce steam under supercritical conditions. As an example, the magnets for the superconducting supercollider were cooled with supercritical helium. Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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