On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:57:11 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Gunner's problem is that he believes every harebrained statement by
every right wing rag without looking into the actual facts or the
motivations of the people making the statements. That is what I mean
about "susceptible to propaganda".

Oddly enough, Glenn tends to disbelieve everything that comes from the
Right, and believes every hairbrained statement by every leftwing raw
without looking into the actual facts of the motivations of the people
making the statements. That is what I mean about you and propaganda.


Thing hard boys and girls...the media has the same facts as you
fellows do, and more. Tell me no one in the Left Wing media remembered
the "debunking" of the Ata meetings. Where are the loud squeals of
outrage and the calls for an investigation? If they had caught a
member of the Bush admin out on a limb..they damned sure would have
sawed it off. So where is it?

Hummmmm?

Gunner

"The Democratic Party is the party of this popular corruption.
The heart of the Democratic Party and its activist core is
made up of government unions, government dependent professions
(teachers, social workers, civil servants); special interest and
special benefits groups (abortion rights, is a good example) that
feed off the government trough; and ethnic constituencies, African Americans
being the most prominent, who are disproportionately invested in government jobs
and in programs that government provides.

" The Democratic Party credo is 'Take as much of the people's money as politically feasible,
and use that money to buy as many of the people's votes as possible'.
Tax cuts are a threat to this Democratic agenda.
Consequently, Democrats loathe and despise them." -Semi-reformed Leftist David Horowitz

Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:57:11 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:


Gunner's problem is that he believes every harebrained statement by
every right wing rag without looking into the actual facts or the
motivations of the people making the statements. That is what I mean
about "susceptible to propaganda".


Oddly enough, Glenn tends to disbelieve everything that comes from the
Right, and believes every hairbrained statement by every leftwing raw
without looking into the actual facts of the motivations of the people
making the statements. That is what I mean about you and propaganda.

Now here is the real problem with the Right Wing. They are so far Right
that any difference in opinion gets labeled "Liberal". I consider
myself a moderate conservative. I don't believe half of what the tree
huggers say and nothing that Ted and Hillary say.


Thing hard boys and girls...the media has the same facts as you
fellows do, and more. Tell me no one in the Left Wing media remembered
the "debunking" of the Ata meetings. Where are the loud squeals of
outrage and the calls for an investigation? If they had caught a
member of the Bush admin out on a limb..they damned sure would have
sawed it off. So where is it?

Hummmmm?

Because it is a rehash of old news and of interest only to the truly
right wing press? There is a principle of extremist regardless of which
end they are on. Shout a lie long enough and loud enough and people
will start to believe it. The only defense to that tactic is to stay
informed and remain skeptical.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:23:18 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:57:11 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:


Gunner's problem is that he believes every harebrained statement by
every right wing rag without looking into the actual facts or the
motivations of the people making the statements. That is what I mean
about "susceptible to propaganda".


Oddly enough, Glenn tends to disbelieve everything that comes from the
Right, and believes every hairbrained statement by every leftwing raw
without looking into the actual facts of the motivations of the people
making the statements. That is what I mean about you and propaganda.

Now here is the real problem with the Right Wing. They are so far Right
that any difference in opinion gets labeled "Liberal". I consider
myself a moderate conservative. I don't believe half of what the tree
huggers say and nothing that Ted and Hillary say.

Oddly enough..thats the problem with lefties and moderates..anything
to the Right of their position tends to be Extreme Right Wing.. They
seldom realize most folks have shades.

You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were? Because I have strong and
firm beliefs on certain subjects, that automatically puts me into the
extreme right wing category. Correct?



Thing hard boys and girls...the media has the same facts as you
fellows do, and more. Tell me no one in the Left Wing media remembered
the "debunking" of the Ata meetings. Where are the loud squeals of
outrage and the calls for an investigation? If they had caught a
member of the Bush admin out on a limb..they damned sure would have
sawed it off. So where is it?

Hummmmm?

Because it is a rehash of old news and of interest only to the truly
right wing press? There is a principle of extremist regardless of which
end they are on. Shout a lie long enough and loud enough and people
will start to believe it. The only defense to that tactic is to stay
informed and remain skeptical.

Since when did that make any difference to the Left. If a Bush admin
official, even a floor sweeper, farted too loudly..the Left would be
all over him like a cheap suit. Im waiting for some cites that this is
occurring over this report. Still waiting......

Gunner

"The British attitude is to treat society like a game preserve where a
certain percentage of the 'antelope' are expected to be eaten by the
"lions".
Christopher Morton

Gunner wrote:


You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were? Because I have strong and
firm beliefs on certain subjects, that automatically puts me into the
extreme right wing category. Correct?

Based on your posts I would never have guessed it. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

In article , Gunner says...

Oddly enough..thats the problem with lefties and moderates..anything
to the Right of their position tends to be Extreme Right Wing.. They
seldom realize most folks have shades.

Damn. I guess my comments of a couple of months ago,
about the problems inherent in the handy-dandy can
of black-n-white paint percolated in!

You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were?

Does that put you four-square in Arnold's camp?

:^)

Jim

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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Gunner says...

Oddly enough..thats the problem with lefties and moderates..anything
to the Right of their position tends to be Extreme Right Wing.. They
seldom realize most folks have shades.

Damn. I guess my comments of a couple of months ago,
about the problems inherent in the handy-dandy can
of black-n-white paint percolated in!

You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were?

Does that put you four-square in Arnold's camp?

:^)

Jim

Except for the group sex.

Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:

"jim rozen" wrote in message
...

In article , Gunner says...


Oddly enough..thats the problem with lefties and moderates..anything
to the Right of their position tends to be Extreme Right Wing.. They
seldom realize most folks have shades.

Damn. I guess my comments of a couple of months ago,
about the problems inherent in the handy-dandy can
of black-n-white paint percolated in!

You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were?

Does that put you four-square in Arnold's camp?

:^)

Jim


Except for the group sex.

Ed Huntress

Does that mean you are for or against it? :-)
--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:O0eub.6404$0K4.5132@lakeread04...

You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were?

Does that put you four-square in Arnold's camp?

:^)

Jim

Except for the group sex.

Ed Huntress

Does that mean you are for or against it? :-)

He was talking about Gunner, not me. I'm an agnostic on the subject, myself.

Ed Huntress

On 17 Nov 2003 15:36:12 -0800, jim rozen
brought forth from the murky depths:

In article , Gunner says...
You do understand that Im a social liberal, and a fiscal
conservative..a Republitarian as it were?

I like it!


Does that put you four-square in Arnold's camp?
:^)

Quick, someone tell Ahnold that he HAS a camp!

A friend sent this our commandeer in chief today:

Post Turtle
-----------
While suturing a laceration on the hand of a 70-year-old Texas rancher
(whose hand had caught in a gate while working cattle), the doctor and
the old man were talking about George W. Bush being in the White House.

The old Texan said, "Well, ya know, Bush is a 'post turtle'."

Not knowing what the old man meant, the doctor asked him what a post
turtle was.

The old man said, "When you're driving down a country road, and you
come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post
turtle."

The old man saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to
explain, "You know he didn't get there by himself, he doesn't belong
there, he can't get anything done while he's up there,and you just want
to help the poor dumb ass get down."


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