Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work.

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Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on various
metalworking techniques, tools and machines?

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You are there!

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JWho wrote:
Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on various
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Thanks,
Rookie


Try this site too:

www.metalmeet.com

I haven't found anything better than metalmeet and RCM.
Mike

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Here's a few:

http://www.jjjtrain.com/vms/library.html
http://www-me.mit.edu/Lectures/Machi...s/outline.html
http://www.eng.hmc.edu/E8/Videos.htm
http://metalwebnews.com/machine-tools/fmt.html
http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/news/article_index.htm
http://shopswarf.orcon.net.nz/sindex.html
http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/
http://www.metalworking.com/links_to_learn.html
http://www.stagesmith.com/Metal-links.html

That should keep you out of mischief for a while:-) There's lots more out
there. Google is your friend :-) Try various combinations of descriptive
words to search on.

David Merrill

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You are there!

Bob Swinney
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Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on
various
metalworking techniques, tools and machines?

Thanks,
Rookie


Yeah, but if I was well equipped, I would get out my "Metalworking for
Dummies - the translation guide" book before I read posts. I can't
understand a bunch of this stuff. I am glad you all do! :-)




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JWho wrote:
Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on

various
metalworking techniques, tools and machines?

Thanks,
Rookie


Try this site too:

www.metalmeet.com

I haven't found anything better than metalmeet and RCM.
Mike


Thanks for the suggestion.


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Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on

various
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Thanks,
Rookie





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Here's a few:

http://www.jjjtrain.com/vms/library.html
http://www-me.mit.edu/Lectures/Machi...s/outline.html
http://www.eng.hmc.edu/E8/Videos.htm
http://metalwebnews.com/machine-tools/fmt.html
http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/news/article_index.htm
http://shopswarf.orcon.net.nz/sindex.html
http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/
http://www.metalworking.com/links_to_learn.html
http://www.stagesmith.com/Metal-links.html

That should keep you out of mischief for a while:-) There's lots more out
there. Google is your friend :-) Try various combinations of descriptive
words to search on.

David Merrill



Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a good
bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow along
when you don't speak the language. :-)


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Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a good
bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow along
when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's curable.

GWE
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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a

good
bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow

along
when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's

curable.

GWE


I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to wear
out my welcome. :-)


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Well, post them all in one message, number.
Those that can answer intelligently will address them.
The rest of us will make up somthing plausible

- -
Rex Burkheimer
Fort Worth TX

JWho wrote:
"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...

Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a


good

bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow


along

when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's


curable.

GWE



I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to wear
out my welcome. :-)




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There are too many! Everytime I read a reply, another one pops up. :-) I
am such a noob that most anything will seem plausible right now. :-)



"Rex B" wrote in message
...
Well, post them all in one message, number.
Those that can answer intelligently will address them.
The rest of us will make up somthing plausible

- -
Rex Burkheimer
Fort Worth TX

JWho wrote:
"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...

Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a


good

bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow


along

when you don't speak the language. :-)

So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's


curable.

GWE



I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to

wear
out my welcome. :-)




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JWho wrote:
There are too many! Everytime I read a reply, another one pops up. :-) I
am such a noob that most anything will seem plausible right now. :-)


great! That makes the answers easier

But seriously, you gotta start somewhere.
Start a new post, and add to it as questions pop up. Hit [send] before
it gets too long.



"Rex B" wrote in message
...

Well, post them all in one message, number.
Those that can answer intelligently will address them.
The rest of us will make up somthing plausible

- -
Rex Burkheimer
Fort Worth TX

JWho wrote:

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...


Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a

good


bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow

along


when you don't speak the language. :-)

So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's

curable.


GWE


I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to


wear

out my welcome. :-)





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Grant Erwin
 
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I'm going to assume you aren't a troll. If you really want to spend some time
reading and learning, first let me tell you how *I* learned. I lived in NW
Portland for 2 years in the early '90s, pre-ebay. I lived alone and had evenings
free (my family was still in Seattle) so I wasn't dating. I spent many evenings
on a bench at Powell's Technical Books reading. And reading. Tons of great
stuff. Some books are so cheap and so well written and so full of information
that you'd be well off to buy them outright. An example is "How To Run A Lathe"
by the South Bend Lathe Corporation, now reprinted by Lindsay, but surely
available for less than $5 anytime you need it.

I also just read and watched this NG for years before I even owned a lathe.

I suggest you visit your local library and search on the subject "machine shop
practice" or "metalworking" or something. If you're having trouble, ask the
librarian at the main desk, that's their job. Check out a dozen or two books and
read them. Skin read, study, memorize, whatever.

Browse the Web. When you find a Web site you like, bookmark it. Organize your
bookmarks. I have hundreds of sites bookmarked all under one header called
"Tools and Shop Equipment". Look for giant metalworking sites like Ernie's. Go
to metalwebnews.com and read all the instructional articles. Go look through the
dropbox, found at metalworking.com which you'll often see referenced. Go look
through lathe.com, the Logan site, and look at Scott's list of links. After
awhile you will get an idea of what it is you want to learn.

But I urge you - buy a machine tool, whatever it is, and learn how to use it
properly. My first one was a drill press, closely followed by a 4x6"
horizontal/vertical metalcutting bandsaw. I learned really a lot about what you
can do and what you can't. When you are trying to do something, you will incur
real questions. Tell us what you are trying to do and what you're running into.
I often see guys asking things like "how can I make a perfectly square hole"
when the simplest thing for him to do would be to weld something.

Finally, let me assure you that you won't wear out your welcome if your
questions are genuine, especially if you never let yourself be sucked into
namecalling or politics. People post to this NG because they have time to and
they enjoy writing about what they know. So ask.

GWE
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JWho wrote:

There are too many! Everytime I read a reply, another one pops up. :-) I
am such a noob that most anything will seem plausible right now. :-)



Yup. As other's have said, there are (almost) no stupid questions. Ya
gotta learn somewhere and anyone, even the old salts here, can learn
something new from reading answers to the most simple questions.

One caveat though: I suggest you ask what standard practice would be
rather than the "if" questions. A ton of newbies come in asking "can I
build a skyscraper using #6 screws to hold 1/2" thick webs of I beams
together?" rather than " I am planning on building a skyscraper...what
is the usual bolt size for steel members in construction like this and
where can I learn more?" Come in asking how to do something the right
way and learn from there rather than asking if you can do something the
half-assed way and debating about why your plan will work if only you
can use enough tiny screws and duct tape.

Koz


"Rex B" wrote in message
...


Well, post them all in one message, number.
Those that can answer intelligently will address them.
The rest of us will make up somthing plausible

- -
Rex Burkheimer
Fort Worth TX

JWho wrote:


"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...



Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a


good



bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow


along



when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's


curable.



GWE


I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to


wear


out my welcome. :-)









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Best ask - give us something to talk about other than politics!

Martin
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JWho wrote:
"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a


good

bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow


along

when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's


curable.

GWE



I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to wear
out my welcome. :-)



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"JWho" wrote in message
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"JWho" wrote in message
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Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on

various
metalworking techniques, tools and machines?

Thanks,
Rookie





"David Merrill" wrote in message
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Here's a few:

http://www.jjjtrain.com/vms/library.html
http://www-me.mit.edu/Lectures/Machi...s/outline.html
http://www.eng.hmc.edu/E8/Videos.htm
http://metalwebnews.com/machine-tools/fmt.html
http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/news/article_index.htm
http://shopswarf.orcon.net.nz/sindex.html
http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/
http://www.metalworking.com/links_to_learn.html
http://www.stagesmith.com/Metal-links.html

That should keep you out of mischief for a while:-) There's lots more
out
there. Google is your friend :-) Try various combinations of
descriptive
words to search on.

David Merrill



Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a
good
bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow
along
when you don't speak the language. :-)


These sites are also very good:

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~chrish/
http://www-me.mit.edu/Lectures/Machi...s/outline.html

If you feel comfortable with posting your location, you might find other
hobbyists in your area that would be willing to show you some of the basics
in person.

IMHO, posting one question per post is better than several in one post.
Discussions here get sidetracked enough as it is.

Mike


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JWho wrote:

Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on various
metalworking techniques, tools and machines?


Sort of self-referential but it works for me...

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...lworking?hl=en

In the "Search this Group" box, put what you
are specifically interested in.


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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:19:31 -0800, Grant Erwin
wrote:


Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand a good
bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow along
when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's curable.

GWE

And ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of. Unless it's deliberate.
ERS
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Hi. Thanks for the suggestion on asking about standard practice. I have a
few questions, and I will use that format.

Thanks again.


"Koz" wrote in message
.. .


JWho wrote:

There are too many! Everytime I read a reply, another one pops up. :-)

I
am such a noob that most anything will seem plausible right now. :-)



Yup. As other's have said, there are (almost) no stupid questions. Ya
gotta learn somewhere and anyone, even the old salts here, can learn
something new from reading answers to the most simple questions.

One caveat though: I suggest you ask what standard practice would be
rather than the "if" questions. A ton of newbies come in asking "can I
build a skyscraper using #6 screws to hold 1/2" thick webs of I beams
together?" rather than " I am planning on building a skyscraper...what
is the usual bolt size for steel members in construction like this and
where can I learn more?" Come in asking how to do something the right
way and learn from there rather than asking if you can do something the
half-assed way and debating about why your plan will work if only you
can use enough tiny screws and duct tape.

Koz


"Rex B" wrote in message
...


Well, post them all in one message, number.
Those that can answer intelligently will address them.
The rest of us will make up somthing plausible

- -
Rex Burkheimer
Fort Worth TX

JWho wrote:


"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...



Hi. Thank you very much. I will check them out. I can't understand

a


good



bit of what is discussed here, though I want to. It's hard to follow


along



when you don't speak the language. :-)


So ask! The cool thing about ignorance is that, unlike stupidity, it's


curable.



GWE


I have several metalworking related questions, and I am trying not to


wear


out my welcome. :-)











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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
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I'm going to assume you aren't a troll. If you really want to spend some

time
reading and learning, first let me tell you how *I* learned. I lived in NW
Portland for 2 years in the early '90s, pre-ebay. I lived alone and had

evenings
free (my family was still in Seattle) so I wasn't dating. I spent many

evenings
on a bench at Powell's Technical Books reading. And reading. Tons of great
stuff. Some books are so cheap and so well written and so full of

information
that you'd be well off to buy them outright. An example is "How To Run A

Lathe"
by the South Bend Lathe Corporation, now reprinted by Lindsay, but surely
available for less than $5 anytime you need it.

I also just read and watched this NG for years before I even owned a

lathe.

I suggest you visit your local library and search on the subject "machine

shop
practice" or "metalworking" or something. If you're having trouble, ask

the
librarian at the main desk, that's their job. Check out a dozen or two

books and
read them. Skin read, study, memorize, whatever.

Browse the Web. When you find a Web site you like, bookmark it. Organize

your
bookmarks. I have hundreds of sites bookmarked all under one header called
"Tools and Shop Equipment". Look for giant metalworking sites like

Ernie's. Go
to metalwebnews.com and read all the instructional articles. Go look

through the
dropbox, found at metalworking.com which you'll often see referenced. Go

look
through lathe.com, the Logan site, and look at Scott's list of links.

After
awhile you will get an idea of what it is you want to learn.

But I urge you - buy a machine tool, whatever it is, and learn how to use

it
properly. My first one was a drill press, closely followed by a 4x6"
horizontal/vertical metalcutting bandsaw. I learned really a lot about

what you
can do and what you can't. When you are trying to do something, you will

incur
real questions. Tell us what you are trying to do and what you're running

into.
I often see guys asking things like "how can I make a perfectly square

hole"
when the simplest thing for him to do would be to weld something.

Finally, let me assure you that you won't wear out your welcome if your
questions are genuine, especially if you never let yourself be sucked into
namecalling or politics. People post to this NG because they have time to

and
they enjoy writing about what they know. So ask.

GWE


Hi. Thank you very much for all the suggestions!! By the way, I am not a
troll. I don't even live near a bridge, much less under one. :-)

I don't know what all a lathe does, so I think I am going to try to find
that book you mentioned.

Thank you!! again.




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Thanks for all the suggestions! I appreciate them all!


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
JWho wrote:

Does anyone know of a site or sites with some general information on

various
metalworking techniques, tools and machines?


Sort of self-referential but it works for me...

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...lworking?hl=en

In the "Search this Group" box, put what you
are specifically interested in.




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DOC
 
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I'll vote for that.

I often say that I learn more from this group than Home Shop Machinist...

Only possible exception is Machinery's Handbook.

Oh. And, as you see, I suggest the subject be changed to:
"Metalworking for Smarties".

:-)

DOC

"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
...
JWho wrote:


....


Sort of self-referential but it works for me...

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...lworking?hl=en

In the "Search this Group" box, put what you
are specifically interested in.




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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:46:51 -0600, Mike Henry wrote:

If you feel comfortable with posting your location, you might find other
hobbyists in your area that would be willing to show you some of the basics
in person.


Hi Mike, I'm not the OP but I'm really interested in learning more about
metalwork (I've done some blacksmithing and basic armor making for middle
ages re-enactment) and I'm particularly interested in casting and machine
work. If there's anyone reading from the KC area, I'm in Warrensburg and
I'm nice to machines. (and people)

Mike
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