I have put together a diesel generator set, can be seen at:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeffgnu/my_photos

I am wanting to convert the hopper cooling system to a thermo cooling
tower.

The principle of operation of thermo cooling can be seen he

http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm

I have a few questions on the construction of this
tank and want to run it by the group.

The genset will have a 195F thermostat installed, the cooling tank will
be a closed system. I plan on using a 2" black pipe with screw cap as a
filler neck in the top of the tank. This cap will be only hand tight.

Would I need to install a pressure relief value of sorts to prevent an
accident? Could a radiator cap be used instead of a pressure relief
valve?

Do they make a filler neck flange to mount to the top of the tank?


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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 05:07:58 GMT, SomeBody
wrote:

I have put together a diesel generator set, can be seen at:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeffgnu/my_photos

I am wanting to convert the hopper cooling system to a thermo cooling
tower.

The principle of operation of thermo cooling can be seen he

http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm

I have a few questions on the construction of this
tank and want to run it by the group.

The genset will have a 195F thermostat installed, the cooling tank will
be a closed system. I plan on using a 2" black pipe with screw cap as a
filler neck in the top of the tank. This cap will be only hand tight.

Just a length of pipe isn't going to radiate much heat out...

Would I need to install a pressure relief value of sorts to prevent an
accident? Could a radiator cap be used instead of a pressure relief
valve?

Yes, and Yes. In fact, easier and cheaper than a relief valve.

Do they make a filler neck flange to mount to the top of the tank?

Not easily. Why reinvent the wheel? Go to a junkyard and get a
good small radiator with an electric fan attached, and note what car
it came out of. And get a generic radiator overflow bottle.

A regular radiator will run in thermosiphon mode also, but it works
better if there is a water pump in the cooling system. That's why the
user them on cars, you can't get enough cooling from thermosiphon
alone with a high-horsepower engine unless you use Big coolant lines

-- Bruce --

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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 05:07:58 GMT, SomeBody
wrote:

I have put together a diesel generator set, can be seen at:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeffgnu/my_photos

I am wanting to convert the hopper cooling system to a thermo cooling
tower.

The principle of operation of thermo cooling can be seen he

http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm

I have a few questions on the construction of this
tank and want to run it by the group.

The genset will have a 195F thermostat installed, the cooling tank will
be a closed system. I plan on using a 2" black pipe with screw cap as a
filler neck in the top of the tank. This cap will be only hand tight.

Would I need to install a pressure relief value of sorts to prevent an
accident? Could a radiator cap be used instead of a pressure relief
valve?

Do they make a filler neck flange to mount to the top of the tank?


I agree with the other poster of why the tank?

Get a radiator and mount it above the engine if you want to go with
a thermo siphon system.

Personally I'd look into a condenser. That's what they use on these
type engines in the oil field. It's basically just a radiator with the
bottom directly connected to the top of the tank (in other words
there's not bottom tank on the radiator but rather the tank on the
engine is the bottom and the cores connect directly into the tank).
There is a top tank and a small fan run by belt from the engine
itself.

The way the condenser works is that as the water evaporates from the
engine heat it rises up into the condenser which cools back into water
which then falls back into the tank. Real simple system with built in
thermostat (the boiling point of the water).

Wayne Cook
Shamrock, TX
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm

SomeBody wrote:

I have put together a diesel generator set, can be seen at:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeffgnu/my_photos

I am wanting to convert the hopper cooling system to a thermo cooling
tower.

The principle of operation of thermo cooling can be seen he

http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm

I have a few questions on the construction of this
tank and want to run it by the group.

The genset will have a 195F thermostat installed, the cooling tank will
be a closed system. I plan on using a 2" black pipe with screw cap as a
filler neck in the top of the tank. This cap will be only hand tight.

Would I need to install a pressure relief value of sorts to prevent an
accident? Could a radiator cap be used instead of a pressure relief
valve?

Do they make a filler neck flange to mount to the top of the tank?

For an aluminium filler neck you could try a shop that sells parts for
motor racing. In the UK at least these are readily available so you can
weld up your own aluminium tanks/rads etc.

So the red tank on the top of the engine is just a cooling tank? That
boils and bubbles when you run it?

A thermo siphon system works fine but:
-You need to have fairly large and unobstructed piping.
-The system is self starting if the inlet to the engine is much lower
than the outlet. Any hot water needs to rise to one specific port.
-Why not use a big truck radiator? It should be mounted vertically so
that you complete the syphon effect.
-The radiator (or larger tank) needs to be on the same level as your
engine.
-Don't pressurise it at all, just have an overflow tank

SomeBody wrote:

I have put together a diesel generator set, can be seen at:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeffgnu/my_photos

I am wanting to convert the hopper cooling system to a thermo cooling
tower.

The principle of operation of thermo cooling can be seen he

http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm

I have a few questions on the construction of this
tank and want to run it by the group.

The genset will have a 195F thermostat installed, the cooling tank will
be a closed system. I plan on using a 2" black pipe with screw cap as a
filler neck in the top of the tank. This cap will be only hand tight.

Would I need to install a pressure relief value of sorts to prevent an
accident? Could a radiator cap be used instead of a pressure relief
valve?

Do they make a filler neck flange to mount to the top of the tank?

RoyJ wrote:

-Why not use a big truck radiator? It should be mounted vertically so
that you complete the syphon effect.
-The radiator (or larger tank) needs to be on the same level as your
engine.
-Don't pressurise it at all, just have an overflow tank


I would mount the radiator at 45 degrees from vertical and above your
engine. my reasons are that flow occurs because the hot water going to
the top of the radiator is somewhat lighter than the cooler water
going from the bottom of the radiator to the lowest part of the engine
water jacket. So the hot water rises. The longer the pipes to the
radiator the greater the difference ( but somewhat offset by greater
frictional losses ).

At 45 degrees so the air that is heated rises through the radiator
without needing a fan.


Dan

"SomeBody" skrev i en meddelelse
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I have put together a diesel generator set, can be seen at:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeffgnu/my_photos

I am wanting to convert the hopper cooling system to a thermo cooling
tower.

For noise reasons or ?

If you are planning on using this genset for emergency power you may want to
consider using a water pump and a radiator / fan setup from a car or a
truck. This way it could help keep the house/shop warm instead of just
wasting the heat outside

/peter