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Hi all,
I can tell hot dip galvanising and bright zinc plating apart (the former creates a thick, dull layer of zinc in which you can sometimes see grains, whereas the latter creates a thinner, shinier layer) but I'm not sure how bright zinc plating is achieved. Is it an electroplating process? I did a quick Google search but couldn't find the answer. Just curious... Chris |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy
wrote: Hi all, I can tell hot dip galvanising and bright zinc plating apart (the former creates a thick, dull layer of zinc in which you can sometimes see grains, whereas the latter creates a thinner, shinier layer) but I'm not sure how bright zinc plating is achieved. Is it an electroplating process? I did a quick Google search but couldn't find the answer. Just curious... Chris Yes, it is electroplating using proprietary "brighteners" in the soup. |
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy wrote: Hi all, I can tell hot dip galvanising and bright zinc plating apart (the former creates a thick, dull layer of zinc in which you can sometimes see grains, whereas the latter creates a thinner, shinier layer) but I'm not sure how bright zinc plating is achieved. Is it an electroplating process? I did a quick Google search but couldn't find the answer. Just curious... Chris Yes, it is electroplating using proprietary "brighteners" in the soup. Thanks, Don. Interesting to know. Chris |
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Here is a DIY kit for this process.
http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "Christopher Tidy" wrote in message ... Hi all, I can tell hot dip galvanising and bright zinc plating apart (the former creates a thick, dull layer of zinc in which you can sometimes see grains, whereas the latter creates a thinner, shinier layer) but I'm not sure how bright zinc plating is achieved. Is it an electroplating process? I did a quick Google search but couldn't find the answer. Just curious... Chris |
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:51:06 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote: Here is a DIY kit for this process. http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm This includes the brightener, and it does a very nice job. Tip: the brightener is an organic chemical that degrades fairly quickly (a few weeks) in the soup, making a muddy brown preciptate that can only partially be filtered out with coffee filters. It looks grotty, but doesn't seem to hurt anything. You can tell when the brightener is depleted because it has a very distinictive sweet odor. If the zinc soup doesn't have that aroma, it needs another wee shot of brightener. I've been running my bucket of zinc soup for several years, still get good results. |
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:51:06 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: Here is a DIY kit for this process. http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm This includes the brightener, and it does a very nice job. Tip: the brightener is an organic chemical that degrades fairly quickly (a few weeks) in the soup, making a muddy brown preciptate that can only partially be filtered out with coffee filters. It looks grotty, but doesn't seem to hurt anything. You can tell when the brightener is depleted because it has a very distinictive sweet odor. If the zinc soup doesn't have that aroma, it needs another wee shot of brightener. I've been running my bucket of zinc soup for several years, still get good results. Sounds interesting. What kind of power supply do you use? I might try it sometime. Chris |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:40:27 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy
wrote: Don Foreman wrote: On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:51:06 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: Here is a DIY kit for this process. http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm This includes the brightener, and it does a very nice job. Tip: the brightener is an organic chemical that degrades fairly quickly (a few weeks) in the soup, making a muddy brown preciptate that can only partially be filtered out with coffee filters. It looks grotty, but doesn't seem to hurt anything. You can tell when the brightener is depleted because it has a very distinictive sweet odor. If the zinc soup doesn't have that aroma, it needs another wee shot of brightener. I've been running my bucket of zinc soup for several years, still get good results. Sounds interesting. What kind of power supply do you use? I might try it sometime. Chris I use a shop-made brute-force dirt-simple adjustable electronic current regulator. A battery charger and variac will do the job too. |
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:40:27 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy wrote: Don Foreman wrote: On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:51:06 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: Here is a DIY kit for this process. http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm This includes the brightener, and it does a very nice job. Tip: the brightener is an organic chemical that degrades fairly quickly (a few weeks) in the soup, making a muddy brown preciptate that can only partially be filtered out with coffee filters. It looks grotty, but doesn't seem to hurt anything. You can tell when the brightener is depleted because it has a very distinictive sweet odor. If the zinc soup doesn't have that aroma, it needs another wee shot of brightener. I've been running my bucket of zinc soup for several years, still get good results. Sounds interesting. What kind of power supply do you use? I might try it sometime. Chris I use a shop-made brute-force dirt-simple adjustable electronic current regulator. A battery charger and variac will do the job too. How much current do you need for your setup? Maybe I could use the 75 amp battery charger on my welding set if I ever get round to fixing it. Chris |
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I think if you surf around the site I posted they have FAQs that cover this
question. I suspect the power supply has a lot to do with the surface area of the part being plated and the distance between the anode (cathode?) and part. I recall in Junior High School we used dry cells to silverplate pennys and copper plate dimes. -- __ Roger Shoaf Important factors in selecting a mate: 1] Depth of gene pool 2] Position on the food chain. "Christopher Tidy" wrote in message ... Don Foreman wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:40:27 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Tidy wrote: Don Foreman wrote: On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:51:06 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: Here is a DIY kit for this process. http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm This includes the brightener, and it does a very nice job. Tip: the brightener is an organic chemical that degrades fairly quickly (a few weeks) in the soup, making a muddy brown preciptate that can only partially be filtered out with coffee filters. It looks grotty, but doesn't seem to hurt anything. You can tell when the brightener is depleted because it has a very distinictive sweet odor. If the zinc soup doesn't have that aroma, it needs another wee shot of brightener. I've been running my bucket of zinc soup for several years, still get good results. Sounds interesting. What kind of power supply do you use? I might try it sometime. Chris I use a shop-made brute-force dirt-simple adjustable electronic current regulator. A battery charger and variac will do the job too. How much current do you need for your setup? Maybe I could use the 75 amp battery charger on my welding set if I ever get round to fixing it. Chris |
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