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I just purchased a new medium duty truck (GVW = 26,000 lbs) and am
going to be mounting a damn heavy knuckleboom on it. Right now, as cab and chassi it weighs in at 10,000 lbs and the boom will come in around 6,500 including frame stiffening)... and I was just told the 19' bed will weigh around 2,850 lbs (150 lbs per foot). Add 'em up, and I have a 19' bed that can only carry 6,600 lbs!!! Does anyone know what an aluminum bed would weigh? Anyone have a handle on someone who builds beds? What does a steel bed cost per foot? What about an aluminum bed? Thanks, James, Seattle |
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Why not a wood deck? Normally cross members are three inch channel which
runs around five pounds per foot. You will need 14 pieces across say an eight foot deck makes for 560 pounds. Your perimeter angle should be at least three inch angle. I prefer four inch. That would put you at another 300. For a thousand pounds you would have your steel framing then drop in 2 by 6 or 2 by 8 planks tucked under the angle iron on the edges and ends. The key plank goes down the center and all are carriage bolted down. The aluminum deck would look really nice.... for awhile. You could build aluminum and wood deck. Aluminum is very expensive and prone to fatigue cracking. I wouldn't think about an aluminum deck unless you are carrying something soft like lumber. Randy "RainLover" wrote in message ... I just purchased a new medium duty truck (GVW = 26,000 lbs) and am going to be mounting a damn heavy knuckleboom on it. Right now, as cab and chassi it weighs in at 10,000 lbs and the boom will come in around 6,500 including frame stiffening)... and I was just told the 19' bed will weigh around 2,850 lbs (150 lbs per foot). Add 'em up, and I have a 19' bed that can only carry 6,600 lbs!!! Does anyone know what an aluminum bed would weigh? Anyone have a handle on someone who builds beds? What does a steel bed cost per foot? What about an aluminum bed? Thanks, James, Seattle |
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Hey James,
How about a trailer for the heavy stuff? Or even a set of tag wheels. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:24:36 -0700, RainLover wrote: I just purchased a new medium duty truck (GVW = 26,000 lbs) and am going to be mounting a damn heavy knuckleboom on it. Right now, as cab and chassi it weighs in at 10,000 lbs and the boom will come in around 6,500 including frame stiffening)... and I was just told the 19' bed will weigh around 2,850 lbs (150 lbs per foot). Add 'em up, and I have a 19' bed that can only carry 6,600 lbs!!! Does anyone know what an aluminum bed would weigh? Anyone have a handle on someone who builds beds? What does a steel bed cost per foot? What about an aluminum bed? Thanks, James, Seattle |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:47:56 GMT, "R. Zimmerman"
wrote: Why not a wood deck? Normally cross members are three inch channel which runs around five pounds per foot. You will need 14 pieces across say an eight foot deck makes for 560 pounds. Your perimeter angle should be at least three inch angle. I prefer four inch. That would put you at another 300. For a thousand pounds you would have your steel framing then drop in 2 by 6 or 2 by 8 planks tucked under the angle iron on the edges and ends. The key plank goes down the center and all are carriage bolted down. The aluminum deck would look really nice.... for awhile. You could build aluminum and wood deck. Aluminum is very expensive and prone to fatigue cracking. I wouldn't think about an aluminum deck unless you are carrying something soft like lumber. Randy Thanks for the suggestion, Randy. I'll normally be carrying either 4,000 pound pallets (2 of them if I can) or stainless steel sculpture (quite bulky, but not very heavy). I never thought about the aluminum fatigue cracking, but I should be fairly safe from that. The aluminum deck people I talked to online rated the bed at 1,000 lbs per foot and I'll NEVER be up that high for more than a local delivery. Because it's a Medium duty truck, and I'm attaching such a huge boom, My primary concern is keeping the weight down. I'll look more into the total wieght of a 8' x 19' Steel Bed with wood decking. James, Seattle "RainLover" wrote in message .. . I just purchased a new medium duty truck (GVW = 26,000 lbs) and am going to be mounting a damn heavy knuckleboom on it. Right now, as cab and chassi it weighs in at 10,000 lbs and the boom will come in around 6,500 including frame stiffening)... and I was just told the 19' bed will weigh around 2,850 lbs (150 lbs per foot). Add 'em up, and I have a 19' bed that can only carry 6,600 lbs!!! Does anyone know what an aluminum bed would weigh? Anyone have a handle on someone who builds beds? What does a steel bed cost per foot? What about an aluminum bed? Thanks, James, Seattle |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:37:39 -0400, Brian Lawson
wrote: Hey James, How about a trailer for the heavy stuff? Or even a set of tag wheels. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. Hi Brian, Here in the States, the Weight between "medium duty" and "commercial is 26,001 pounds, one pound more and I need permits, licenses and medical exams, not to mention the insurance requirements... I'm at 26,000 with this truck, but even if the total weight for truck was under, and I had a trailer that put me at 26,001... I'd be commercial. I'm pretty much resigned to having a huge truck, with a small payload capacity. James, Seattle XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:24:36 -0700, RainLover wrote: I just purchased a new medium duty truck (GVW = 26,000 lbs) and am going to be mounting a damn heavy knuckleboom on it. Right now, as cab and chassi it weighs in at 10,000 lbs and the boom will come in around 6,500 including frame stiffening)... and I was just told the 19' bed will weigh around 2,850 lbs (150 lbs per foot). Add 'em up, and I have a 19' bed that can only carry 6,600 lbs!!! Does anyone know what an aluminum bed would weigh? Anyone have a handle on someone who builds beds? What does a steel bed cost per foot? What about an aluminum bed? Thanks, James, Seattle |
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It is time to take a look at other trucks when they are parked. It has been
a long time since I remember unloading material from a metal deck. Things slide around too easily on metal. Better price out the lumber... Chances are it will cost more than the channel framing. The price of lumber is only going one way after Katrina. Randy "RainLover" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:47:56 GMT, "R. Zimmerman" wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Randy. I'll normally be carrying either 4,000 pound pallets (2 of them if I can) or stainless steel sculpture (quite bulky, but not very heavy). I never thought about the aluminum fatigue cracking, but I should be fairly safe from that. The aluminum deck people I talked to online rated the bed at 1,000 lbs per foot and I'll NEVER be up that high for more than a local delivery. Because it's a Medium duty truck, and I'm attaching such a huge boom, My primary concern is keeping the weight down. I'll look more into the total wieght of a 8' x 19' Steel Bed with wood decking. James, Seattle |
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