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Ernie Leimkuhler
 
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I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.
My 1985 Toyota 1-ton died last week and there ain't much to pick from
in Seattle in Toyota trucks.
I am taking the opportunity to see my family and search for a newer
truck where they are plentiful.

My dream truck is a '92 long bed deluxe, but they are pretty rare.
The long beds were discontinued in '92, as were the 1-tons.
But the in '91 and '92 you had to get a V-6 if you wanted the 1-ton,
and Toyota v-6's suck.

I am planning on rebuilding the engine in the '85 myself, so I will end
up with 2 trucks.
I will convert my 1-ton into a flatbed, like I have wanted to for a
while.

Anybody know about rebuilding 22REC engines?
Supposedly the Rod Bearing died.
All I know is it sounded brutal when it went.

I am 38 today.
No big deal, but damnit I am taking back my birthday from the world
this year.
If they officially make it Patriot day I suppose it will be nice to
have a federal holiday on my birthday.
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--Hey Ernie give me a call if you get da chance! Big changes
happening in my shop at the moment.. :-)

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Happy birthday! on your truck engine, before you spend a lot of time and
work overhauling the motor, look into those places that sell the used
Japanese motors. every one that I have talked to about these have had good
luck with them.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.


"Ernie Leimkuhler" wrote in message
...
I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.
My 1985 Toyota 1-ton died last week and there ain't much to pick from
in Seattle in Toyota trucks.
I am taking the opportunity to see my family and search for a newer
truck where they are plentiful.

My dream truck is a '92 long bed deluxe, but they are pretty rare.
The long beds were discontinued in '92, as were the 1-tons.
But the in '91 and '92 you had to get a V-6 if you wanted the 1-ton,
and Toyota v-6's suck.

I am planning on rebuilding the engine in the '85 myself, so I will end
up with 2 trucks.
I will convert my 1-ton into a flatbed, like I have wanted to for a
while.

Anybody know about rebuilding 22REC engines?
Supposedly the Rod Bearing died.
All I know is it sounded brutal when it went.

I am 38 today.
No big deal, but damnit I am taking back my birthday from the world
this year.
If they officially make it Patriot day I suppose it will be nice to
have a federal holiday on my birthday.





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The 22R is a good engine. Cheap to rebuild. Things to do and
watch out for when rebuilding:
The 22R pistons are pretty short in the skirt(ok for women,
not so good with pistons). You should replace them, and have
the cylinders carefully bored/honed for minimum skirt
clearance. Otherwise, piston slap on a cold motor is
guaranteed.
If you cut the head and/or deck alot, the timing chain
tensioner will run out of oomph after about 75K, and the
chain will start rattling.
CopperCoat the head gasket, and retorque after 1k.
Use only the early style, large oil filter for the carbed
22R.
Happy Birthday-
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:

I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.
My 1985 Toyota 1-ton died last week and there ain't much to pick from
in Seattle in Toyota trucks.
I am taking the opportunity to see my family and search for a newer
truck where they are plentiful.

My dream truck is a '92 long bed deluxe, but they are pretty rare.
The long beds were discontinued in '92, as were the 1-tons.
But the in '91 and '92 you had to get a V-6 if you wanted the 1-ton,
and Toyota v-6's suck.

I am planning on rebuilding the engine in the '85 myself, so I will end
up with 2 trucks.
I will convert my 1-ton into a flatbed, like I have wanted to for a
while.

Anybody know about rebuilding 22REC engines?
Supposedly the Rod Bearing died.
All I know is it sounded brutal when it went.

I am 38 today.
No big deal, but damnit I am taking back my birthday from the world
this year.
If they officially make it Patriot day I suppose it will be nice to
have a federal holiday on my birthday.


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If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes
Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive
The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me
No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses
--------------------------------------------------------------
Dependence is Vulnerability:
--------------------------------------------------------------
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"I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.."
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Happy Birthday Ernie -

One who was in the movie like yourself resemble one :-)

Best regards and good luck in the bay area - live south and work in the
south end -
it is HOT this week - very hot indeed.

Martin
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Ernie Leimkuhler
 
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In article , Roger Shoaf
wrote:

Happy birthday! on your truck engine, before you spend a lot of time and
work overhauling the motor, look into those places that sell the used
Japanese motors. every one that I have talked to about these have had good
luck with them.


No go.
20R and 22R engines are domestic rebuilds only.

Something about the Japanese versions having something the EPA didn't
like, so you can't import the Japanese ones.
Unlike just about every other engine Toyota ever used.

Best price I found was $1250 for a refurbished and $1650 for a full
rebuild.

The engine is the only thing on my truck that I haven't gotten into, so
it is about time.
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Ernie Leimkuhler
 
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In article , JR North
wrote:

The 22R is a good engine. Cheap to rebuild. Things to do and
watch out for when rebuilding:
The 22R pistons are pretty short in the skirt(ok for women,
not so good with pistons). You should replace them, and have
the cylinders carefully bored/honed for minimum skirt
clearance. Otherwise, piston slap on a cold motor is
guaranteed.
If you cut the head and/or deck alot, the timing chain
tensioner will run out of oomph after about 75K, and the
chain will start rattling.
CopperCoat the head gasket, and retorque after 1k.
Use only the early style, large oil filter for the carbed
22R.
Happy Birthday-
JR
Dweller in the cellar


Thanks.
Mine is a fuel injected model.
Anything different?

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:

I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.
My 1985 Toyota 1-ton died last week and there ain't much to pick from
in Seattle in Toyota trucks.
I am taking the opportunity to see my family and search for a newer
truck where they are plentiful.

My dream truck is a '92 long bed deluxe, but they are pretty rare.
The long beds were discontinued in '92, as were the 1-tons.
But the in '91 and '92 you had to get a V-6 if you wanted the 1-ton,
and Toyota v-6's suck.

I am planning on rebuilding the engine in the '85 myself, so I will end
up with 2 trucks.
I will convert my 1-ton into a flatbed, like I have wanted to for a
while.

Anybody know about rebuilding 22REC engines?
Supposedly the Rod Bearing died.
All I know is it sounded brutal when it went.

I am 38 today.
No big deal, but damnit I am taking back my birthday from the world
this year.
If they officially make it Patriot day I suppose it will be nice to
have a federal holiday on my birthday.

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It's a longshot, but check out Craig's List. www.craigslist.com

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote in news:110920031436096725%
:

I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.

....


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Joe Landau
 
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And I saw a free Toyota 22R motor there! Under free stuff.

Joe Landau wrote in
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It's a longshot, but check out Craig's List. www.craigslist.com

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote in news:110920031436096725%
:

I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.

...


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Ernie Leimkuhler
 
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In article , Joe Landau
wrote:

And I saw a free Toyota 22R motor there! Under free stuff.


On Craig's List?

I have been checking it already for trucks.


Joe Landau wrote in
:

It's a longshot, but check out Craig's List. www.craigslist.com

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote in news:110920031436096725%
:

I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.

...


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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:19:12 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
The engine is the only thing on my truck that I haven't gotten into, so
it is about time.


Honest Charley sells an adapter kit that'll let you drop a small block
Chevy engine in there.

Gary
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In article , Gary Coffman
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:19:12 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:
The engine is the only thing on my truck that I haven't gotten into, so
it is about time.


Honest Charley sells an adapter kit that'll let you drop a small block
Chevy engine in there.

Gary



Got a URL for that?
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"Ernie Leimkuhler" wrote in message
...

Oh I almost forgot, since you are going to Berkley, Don't forget to Swing by
Kasper's at Telegraph & Shattuck and have a couple of hot dogs.


--
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Happy Birthday Ernie.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:35:52 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:

I am 38 today.
No big deal, but damnit I am taking back my birthday from the world
this year.
If they officially make it Patriot day I suppose it will be nice to
have a federal holiday on my birthday.


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Description — $7,200, TOYOTA PICKUP, 1992 1 TON FLATBED,
runs/looks great, AC, $7,200, 916- 978-9197 ...

Ernie,
That is from sacbee.com Classifieds
Don

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:

I am flying down to Berkely tomorrow to start seearching for a new
truck.
My 1985 Toyota 1-ton died last week and there ain't much to pick from
in Seattle in Toyota trucks.
I am taking the opportunity to see my family and search for a newer
truck where they are plentiful.

My dream truck is a '92 long bed deluxe, but they are pretty rare.
The long beds were discontinued in '92, as were the 1-tons.
But the in '91 and '92 you had to get a V-6 if you wanted the 1-ton,
and Toyota v-6's suck.

I am planning on rebuilding the engine in the '85 myself, so I will end
up with 2 trucks.
I will convert my 1-ton into a flatbed, like I have wanted to for a
while.

Anybody know about rebuilding 22REC engines?
Supposedly the Rod Bearing died.
All I know is it sounded brutal when it went.

I am 38 today.
No big deal, but damnit I am taking back my birthday from the world
this year.
If they officially make it Patriot day I suppose it will be nice to
have a federal holiday on my birthday.

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:45:53 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
In article , Gary Coffman
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:19:12 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler
wrote:
The engine is the only thing on my truck that I haven't gotten into, so
it is about time.


Honest Charley sells an adapter kit that'll let you drop a small block
Chevy engine in there.

Gary



Got a URL for that?


Hmmm. Looks like Honest hisself has retired. The company info
says it was bought out by Cofer Tire and now only handles custom
show parts for vintage cars.

Anyway, they used to handle Advance Adaptors products. And
one of them was an adaptor to mate a Chevy engine to a Toyota
transmission. Probably made on the West Coast. Making your
own adaptor isn't rocket science, especially for anyone in this
newsgroup.

Gary
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"Gary Coffman" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:45:53 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler

wrote:
In article , Gary Coffman
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:19:12 GMT, Ernie Leimkuhler


wrote:
The engine is the only thing on my truck that I haven't gotten into,

so
it is about time.

Honest Charley sells an adapter kit that'll let you drop a small block
Chevy engine in there.

Gary



Got a URL for that?


Hmmm. Looks like Honest hisself has retired. The company info
says it was bought out by Cofer Tire and now only handles custom
show parts for vintage cars.

Anyway, they used to handle Advance Adaptors products. And
one of them was an adaptor to mate a Chevy engine to a Toyota
transmission. Probably made on the West Coast. Making your
own adaptor isn't rocket science, especially for anyone in this
newsgroup.

Gary


Advance Adapters is in Paso Robles, CA.
They sell direct.

JTMcC.


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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:45:56 GMT, "John T. McCracken" wrote:
"Gary Coffman" wrote in message
.. .
Anyway, they used to handle Advance Adaptors products. And
one of them was an adaptor to mate a Chevy engine to a Toyota
transmission. Probably made on the West Coast. Making your
own adaptor isn't rocket science, especially for anyone in this
newsgroup.

Gary


Advance Adapters is in Paso Robles, CA.
They sell direct.

JTMcC.


That's them. Here's the URL to the bits needed to stuff a Chevy
in the Toy.

http://www.advanceadapters.com/aa.co...4clytrans.html

Gary


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Not in ways that would affect going through it.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:


Thanks.
Mine is a fuel injected model.
Anything different?


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No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses
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--------------------------------------------------------------
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Gary Coffman wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:45:56 GMT, "John T. McCracken" wrote:
"Gary Coffman" wrote in message
.. .
Anyway, they used to handle Advance Adaptors products. And
one of them was an adaptor to mate a Chevy engine to a Toyota
transmission. Probably made on the West Coast. Making your
own adaptor isn't rocket science, especially for anyone in this
newsgroup.

Gary


Advance Adapters is in Paso Robles, CA.
They sell direct.

JTMcC.


That's them. Here's the URL to the bits needed to stuff a Chevy
in the Toy.

http://www.advanceadapters.com/aa.co...4clytrans.html

Gary



I did a google search and it looks like the Buick V-6 is actually a
better fit.
Hmmmmmm........things to think about.

Kind of frustrated looking for trucks down here.
Very few people seem to use the classifieds.
There are millions of Toyota trucks down here, and I mean everywhere,
but very few for sale, especially in the price and age range I was
hoping for.
I might have to accept a Tacoma truck after all.
I was trying to stick with '90 to '95 trucks since they use the same
engine as my '85, which I can field strip blind folded.
Tacoma trucks are a whole different beast, but all the reference sites
list reliability of tacomas as excellent, even better than the earlier
trucks.

the Tacoma Extra cabs are nice, but they start at $9000 and climb
rapidly into the ether.

I just can't figure out where people are buying and selling trucks
around here.
The online sites like Craigslist and Cars.com have trucks, but most
are 4WD, and at dealers lots.

Oh well, I have a few more days to search
I did buy a one way ticket.

BTW watching 200 people taking off their shoes is worth the wait in
line to board your plane.
Very funny, especially since they don't have carpets on the floors at
SeaTac airport.
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Ernie Leimkuhler
 
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Don Murray wrote in message ...
Description ? $7,200, TOYOTA PICKUP, 1992 1 TON FLATBED,
runs/looks great, AC, $7,200, 916- 978-9197 ...

Ernie,
That is from sacbee.com Classifieds
Don


I will check that one out.
Thanks
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On 13 Sep 2003 23:03:35 -0700, (Ernie Leimkuhler) wrote:
I did a google search and it looks like the Buick V-6 is actually a
better fit.


Yeah, but it isn't a better engine.

Gary
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