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air line through burried steel conduit?
Hi folks.
I am hoping to run an air line from a compressor in my basement to my detached garage through a burried steel electrical conduit. The length of the conduit is approximately 75'. The conduit currently contains two unused 12 gauge conductors and looks to be about 3/4" in diameter and heavier than your standard EMT . Does anyone see any potential problems with this arrangement? I was thinking flexible hose, any suggestions as to type? Thanks, Andy Lynn, MA (Ideally I would have the compressor in the garage, but I don't have enough circuits/capacity out there. - I basically use the air for blowing around sawdust) |
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Wouldn't it be easier to just get an inexpensive, small air compressor and
plug it in inside the garage? That way you could have the air wherever you need it. Just a thought. - BTW - I remember: "Lynn, Lynn, the City of Sin", but I forget the next two lines. -- Peter DiVergilio Most of the money I've wasted was mostly spent trying to impress people who were never going to like me anyway! |
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"andy" wrote in message
oups.com... Hi folks. I am hoping to run an air line from a compressor in my basement to my detached garage through a burried steel electrical conduit. The length of the conduit is approximately 75'. The conduit currently contains two unused 12 gauge conductors and looks to be about 3/4" in diameter and heavier than your standard EMT . Does anyone see any potential problems with this arrangement? I was thinking flexible hose, any suggestions as to type? (Ideally I would have the compressor in the garage, but I don't have enough circuits/capacity out there. - I basically use the air for blowing around sawdust) Why not use the conduit for its intended purpose: run a new, high-capacity electrical circuit to your garage and solve all your problems! - Michael |
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Peter DiVergilio wrote:
BTW - I remember: "Lynn, Lynn, the City of Sin", but I forget the next two lines. I believe it's "You'll never come out the way you went in." Had an English teacher back in high school from that area, she used to repeat the saying quite frequently. But then I never listened much in that class, so I could be remembering incorrectly. |
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You are unlikely to get much air flow thru 75+ feet of tubing that will fit
in that conduit. For intermittent use you could add a tank in the garage. I would suggest a small compressor in the garage and if you need more electrical capacity use the existing conduit. The existing two conductors plus a ground would power a 240V compressor. Don Young "andy" wrote in message oups.com... Hi folks. I am hoping to run an air line from a compressor in my basement to my detached garage through a burried steel electrical conduit. The length of the conduit is approximately 75'. The conduit currently contains two unused 12 gauge conductors and looks to be about 3/4" in diameter and heavier than your standard EMT . Does anyone see any potential problems with this arrangement? I was thinking flexible hose, any suggestions as to type? Thanks, Andy Lynn, MA (Ideally I would have the compressor in the garage, but I don't have enough circuits/capacity out there. - I basically use the air for blowing around sawdust) |
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"andy" wrote in message oups.com... Hi folks. I am hoping to run an air line from a compressor in my basement to my detached garage through a burried steel electrical conduit. The length of the conduit is approximately 75'. The conduit currently contains two unused 12 gauge conductors and looks to be about 3/4" in diameter and heavier than your standard EMT . Does anyone see any potential problems with this arrangement? I was thinking flexible hose, any suggestions as to type? Thanks, Andy Lynn, MA (Ideally I would have the compressor in the garage, but I don't have enough circuits/capacity out there. - I basically use the air for blowing around sawdust) We use miles of this stuff at work http://www.parker.com/PARFLEX/4660%20SINGLE%20PDF/NYLON%20TUBING%20(FLEXIBLE).PDF and it runs thru conduit and cable trays, indoors and outdoors. We've had very little problems using this tubing. I would suggest that you put an air receiver in the garage to prevent pressure drops that will occur over the 75' of tubing run. Shawn |
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Thanks for all the suggestions. will look into poly-flo and parker
flex. The conduit is existing, and housed the garage's old electic supply (one lightbulb) I have since burried a new electric service (50 amp subpanel, direct burrial cable) for the welder,tablesaw,planer..... so I am pushing what I have available for ampacity in the garage. My thought was to keep the compressor in the basement shop where there is lots of ampacity available, and have air drops in both the basement and garage. My air use at the moment is more a novelty than any thing else. I use it to blow dust off things and dry things off. I guess I am a victim of :I should have put a larger service into the garage, I should have burried it in a conduit, I should have installed an extra conduit, ect. I should have "thought big" from the beginning. Thanks again for your responses, and hi to rex....roger Andy lynn, lynn..... |
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"andy" wrote in message oups.com... I guess I am a victim of :I should have put a larger service into the garage, I should have burried it in a conduit, I should have installed an extra conduit, ect. I should have "thought big" from the beginning. Good lesson! Ditches are expensive, PVC is cheap. Anytime you open a ditch, put in everything you can think of that you might want in the future, and then add extra conduit beyond that. Water? Air? TV? Gas? Telephone? Data? Vaughn |
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You could always pull 3 #8's through and run your compressor on 40 amp
240 volts. This would be a seperate cirucuit, would not run through the sub panel. andy wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. will look into poly-flo and parker flex. The conduit is existing, and housed the garage's old electic supply (one lightbulb) I have since burried a new electric service (50 amp subpanel, direct burrial cable) for the welder,tablesaw,planer..... so I am pushing what I have available for ampacity in the garage. My thought was to keep the compressor in the basement shop where there is lots of ampacity available, and have air drops in both the basement and garage. My air use at the moment is more a novelty than any thing else. I use it to blow dust off things and dry things off. I guess I am a victim of :I should have put a larger service into the garage, I should have burried it in a conduit, I should have installed an extra conduit, ect. I should have "thought big" from the beginning. Thanks again for your responses, and hi to rex....roger Andy lynn, lynn..... |
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"RoyJ" wrote in message ink.net... You could always pull 3 #8's through and run your compressor on 40 amp 240 volts. This would be a seperate cirucuit, would not run through the sub panel. I can't give you chapter and verse (it has been too many years), but I believe that may be against code. The issue is that it must be very clear how to kill power to a building. However; if the compressor sat outside and the #8s did not actually enter the garage... Vaughn |
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The Hurdy Gurdy Man wrote:
Peter DiVergilio wrote: BTW - I remember: "Lynn, Lynn, the City of Sin", but I forget the next two lines. I believe it's "You'll never come out the way you went in." Had an English teacher back in high school from that area, she used to repeat the saying quite frequently. But then I never listened much in that class, so I could be remembering incorrectly. yeah that's it............usta live on johnson st some years back................... if flow bacame a problem, find a tank, old propane or dead compressor to put at the other end of the line as a reservoir |
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