Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work.

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#382 scarpet clamp/holder? At least, it's for holding tissue.
#383 hammer for sheet metal work?
#384 el cheapo oaring support
#385 branding iron
#386 multi spindle boring head, with collets
#387 clueless clamp?


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Hooks for a chastity belt, holds stockings up.

Hammer for the nails I picked up after bending them with the other hammer.

Oarlock thing.

Branding iron.

Three-knobbed box with round extension.

Tool.
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I see a pinch dog and a tapered buffing arbor.

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387. Woodworking clamp used to pull 90 degree miter joints together.

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382: Sewing clamp for tarp's.
383: Chain gaff
384: Mounting bracket for a steal post to a flat surface. Think chain =
link fence.
385: Branding Iron
386: Print adjustment for a small press.
387: We call them "Draw Dogs" used in my industry for drawing two wooden =
cutting dies together.

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386 looks like a multi headed boring attachment with collets.

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O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking again.

Note -- you have got a good collection of items this time.

382) No real idea. My guess is that it is intended to hold some
sort of garment in a stretched position while it is drying.
Probably wool, which was notorious for shrinking when washed.

383) A very strange hammer. Perhaps a geologist's hammer? Perhaps
for chipping slag off a welded seam?

384) Perhaps a swivel mount for something like an umbrella captive
to a picnic table?

385) It *looks* like a branding iron -- except that the finish
suggests that it could never stand the heat required. Perhaps
it is intended as a decorative item intended to *look* like an
idealized branding iron.

386) This one seems easier to peg. It looks like a multi-spindle
drilling or milling head.

The input shaft is obviously designed to be held in a collet in
a mill's primary spindle.

The wing out to one side from the input shaft is to be clamped
to keep the gearbox from rotating instead of the individual
spindles.

Three output spindles, each with its own collet to hold the
cutting tool. Do all three spindles turn the same direction
when you turn the input spindle, or does one (the middle) turn
the reverse of the other two? It looks as though there are
idler gears in there to assure that all rotate the same
direction. You can see the ends of the shafts for those gears,
one centered above the left and center spindles, the other
centered below the right and center spindles.

I would be interested to know what the black button is on the
front face, above the label.

387) A very small double-ended prybar?

a staple on steroids?

perhaps something used as a tool by a blacksmith.


Now to read the other guesses.

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#382 Some sort of linkage
#383 Tack hammer?
#384 Antenna or other pole mount (orientation appears wrong)
#385 Almost looks like some sort of branding iron
#386 Cryo gas manifold control valves
#387 Panel crimp for board edge-joining glue-ups



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382. Origami scaffolding.
383. Blind-corner hammer.
384. Piece of the set from "Toxic Avenger."
385. Beef cookie cutter.
386. Otto drill. For swissing cheese. Metal cheese.
387. A MAN'S STAPLE!

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382) For keeping clothes in shape.

383) Hammer. Maybe railroad-related?

384) Flagpole support

385) Picasso's lug wrench

386) Safe prop from "The Price Is Right"

387) Wire staple

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Four of the six have been correctly identified so far:






382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for the
same purpose.

383. I was hoping that someone here could tell me what kind of hammer this
is, I haven't yet been able to confirm what it's for.

384. Oarlock

385. Branding iron

386. This is a 1/1 ratio multiple spindle tapping head for a CNC mount.

387. Pinch dog

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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for the
same purpose.


Hmm ... perhaps something intended to serve as an anchored tie
clasp?

383. I was hoping that someone here could tell me what kind of hammer this
is, I haven't yet been able to confirm what it's for.

384. Oarlock


This one I have difficulty believing. The materials look like
they would be subject to salt-water corrosion -- though they might work
on fresh water.

But if so, the socket is probably upside down.

And I've never before seen an oarlock which did not allow the
length of the oar to be adjusted by sliding it in our out a bit, or the
feather angle of the oar to be adjusted at will by simply twisting the
oar in the lock. Here, it appears to be firmly clamped in place.

Perhaps, it might be for a specialized application, such as
shell racing, but not for a general purpose rowboat. Those tend to be
either bronze, or very heavily galvanized forgings.

385. Branding iron


A *real* one? Again, I question the finish and the alloy
involved. I think that it might be a decorative one.

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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet.


Sock holder?


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for the
same purpose.


My first impression was that it was a film clip, for holding photographic
film/paper while it is drying in a darkroom. Given the date of the patent,
I would guess some sort of paper clip.

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382 ????
383 ????
384 Oarlock
385 Branding iron
386 ????
387 ????


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On

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answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for the
same purpose.


Hmm ... perhaps something intended to serve as an anchored tie
clasp?



Nope, not for ties.



383. I was hoping that someone here could tell me what kind of hammer

this
is, I haven't yet been able to confirm what it's for.

384. Oarlock


This one I have difficulty believing. The materials look like
they would be subject to salt-water corrosion -- though they might work
on fresh water.

But if so, the socket is probably upside down.

And I've never before seen an oarlock which did not allow the
length of the oar to be adjusted by sliding it in our out a bit, or the
feather angle of the oar to be adjusted at will by simply twisting the
oar in the lock. Here, it appears to be firmly clamped in place.

Perhaps, it might be for a specialized application, such as
shell racing, but not for a general purpose rowboat. Those tend to be
either bronze, or very heavily galvanized forgings.


It is an oarlock, I'll put up a photo of the box tomorrow. Looks like
you're right about it being upside down, I wasn't paying attention when I
set it up, sorry about that, extra points for those who got this correct!


385. Branding iron


A *real* one? Again, I question the finish and the alloy
involved. I think that it might be a decorative one.


Yes, it does appear to be a decorative one and doesn't look like it's been
used.


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet.


Sock holder?



No, but an article of clothing does come into play.


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On

the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for

the
same purpose.


My first impression was that it was a film clip, for holding photographic
film/paper while it is drying in a darkroom. Given the date of the

patent,
I would guess some sort of paper clip.

Carl G.


I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
involved with its use.


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet.


Sock holder?



No, but an article of clothing does come into play.


Perhaps celluloid collars?

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I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
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Clip for a lobster bib?

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I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
involved with its use.


Clip for a lobster bib?



Early sanitary napkin clip?
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I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
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Clip for a lobster bib?



It's not for any type of bib.


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet.

Sock holder?



No, but an article of clothing does come into play.


Perhaps celluloid collars?


This is not the answer that I was looking for, but the one marked "Wizard"
may have been used for that, though it was also used for the purpose that I
have in mind.


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I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of

paper
involved with its use.


Clip for a lobster bib?



Early sanitary napkin clip?


No, but thanks for the laugh, I didn't see that one coming.

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Four of the six have been correctly identified so far:






382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On

the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for

the
same purpose.


My first impression was that it was a film clip, for holding

photographic
film/paper while it is drying in a darkroom. Given the date of the

patent,
I would guess some sort of paper clip.

Carl G.


I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
involved with its use.


Rob


Is it a clip to hold "mad money" under a garment?

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Four of the six have been correctly identified so far:






382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet.

On
the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold

for
the
same purpose.

My first impression was that it was a film clip, for holding

photographic
film/paper while it is drying in a darkroom. Given the date of the

patent,
I would guess some sort of paper clip.

Carl G.


I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
involved with its use.


Rob


Is it a clip to hold "mad money" under a garment?

Carl G.


It's not for money, but you're getting close.

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382 ????
383 ????
384 Oarlock
385 Branding iron
386 ????
387 ????


378 is a 5-string banjo geared 5th peg...

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383. I was hoping that someone here could tell me what kind of hammer

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is, I haven't yet been able to confirm what it's for.


I have seen a Japanese design claw hammer that had a head bent like this.
Of course the claw hammer did not have a dual head.

Is the marking Asian?

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383. I was hoping that someone here could tell me what kind of hammer

this
is, I haven't yet been able to confirm what it's for.


I have seen a Japanese design claw hammer that had a head bent like this.
Of course the claw hammer did not have a dual head.

Is the marking Asian?


It doesn't have any markings on it, any idea what the Japanese hammer was
for?

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Four of the six have been correctly identified so far:






382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet. On

the
answer page I've posted two more different objects that were sold for

the
same purpose.


My first impression was that it was a film clip, for holding

photographic
film/paper while it is drying in a darkroom. Given the date of the

patent,
I would guess some sort of paper clip.

Carl G.


I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
involved with its use.


Paper is not really a good term to use for what goes in one end of these
things, it's similar to it but thicker. Most people today don't associate
the word paper with the item in question, there is a better more descriptive
term for it.

I posted a photo of the oarlock box if anyone is interested:

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I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of paper
involved with its use.


Paper is not really a good term to use for what goes in one end of these
things, it's similar to it but thicker. Most people today don't associate
the word paper with the item in question, there is a better more descriptive
term for it.


Rob, would this be to hold/position an identification or
business card of some kind? "Press" pass, etc.?

i.e. affix to lapel or suit pocket with one end, card on the
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Paper is not really a good term to use for what goes in one end of these
things, it's similar to it but thicker. Most people today don't associate
the word paper with the item in question, there is a better more descriptive
term for it.


From your hints and the pics it looks like a device to hold additional
cards of suitable value in the sleeve of your shirt while playing
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I wouldn't call it a paper clip, but there is a particular type of

paper
involved with its use.


Paper is not really a good term to use for what goes in one end of these
things, it's similar to it but thicker. Most people today don't

associate
the word paper with the item in question, there is a better more

descriptive
term for it.


Rob, would this be to hold/position an identification or
business card of some kind? "Press" pass, etc.?

i.e. affix to lapel or suit pocket with one end, card on the
other.



Nope, not for business cards.


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382. According to the seller, no correct guesses on this one yet.

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Paper is not really a good term to use for what goes in one end of these
things, it's similar to it but thicker. Most people today don't

associate
the word paper with the item in question, there is a better more

descriptive
term for it.


From your hints and the pics it looks like a device to hold additional
cards of suitable value in the sleeve of your shirt while playing
poker to your very own advantage...



Correct! They are card holdouts, used for cheating at card games. The one
with the round piece on the end is attached to a shirt like a cuff link, the
others are clipped to the shirt or inner jacket sleeve.

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Now back to the hammer.
It looks like it is for thin (or tinn) sheet metal work, because it is
much to light for a "real hammer"[tm].
What I found is a hammer that resembles the one, but only the metal part
beeing flipped over (the edges showing up, not down; a German form of a
gutter hammer). It is used for roofing work, esp. gutter work. Used for
folding over.

If you understood what I wanted to explain with my limited vocabulary.
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Now back to the hammer.
It looks like it is for thin (or tinn) sheet metal work, because it is
much to light for a "real hammer"[tm].
What I found is a hammer that resembles the one, but only the metal part
beeing flipped over (the edges showing up, not down; a German form of a
gutter hammer). It is used for roofing work, esp. gutter work. Used for
folding over.



Sounds like a good possibility, I'm guessing it's either for sheet metal or
upholstery work, a few similar ones can be seen at the link below:

http://images.google.com/images?q=up...n&start=0&sa=N


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or upholstery work,


I didn't find one for upholstery work that looked at least similar.
All did have a much sharper "fin" (??)

But as an old proverb says: "different countries, different hammers" ...
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O.K. Does it say what kind of vessel this is supposed to be
used on? It still does not seem to be reasonable to need a wrench to
adjust an oar -- you normally do that as you are rowing -- extend the
oar to get higher speed at the cost of greater effort required, feather
the oar one way to clear the water, or another way to dig in to counter
an imbalance.

Again -- I might accept it as being for a special purpose kind
of oarlock, perhaps for a racing shell or something similar.

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385. Branding iron


A *real* one? Again, I question the finish and the alloy
involved. I think that it might be a decorative one.


Yes, it does appear to be a decorative one and doesn't look like it's been
used.


Rob

What would the brand say/look like? If the figure on the left is
supposed to be a figure 1, it would be backwards on whatever was
branded.
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