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Ravioli bearings...
So Wes and I were hanging out at a mutual friend's business, Mona
Lisa Pasta in Charlottesville, Virginia where one of the brighter employees had decided to clean the rollers of the ravioli machine with an awl whilst the machine was running... This did two things: a) As the machine grabbed the awl between two rollers, it nicely embossed the outline of the awl on them. b) The cast iron bearings holding the rollers disintegrated. Our mutual friend, Jim-Bob, was not happy. Turns out that there are all kinds of expensive pasta machines imported from Italy to the states, but hardly anyone stocks parts for any of them if you can even find out who really made your machine. Turns out this is true of a bunch of commercial Italian restaurant stuff, espresso machines included. I decided to give the project a try. I'd recently purchased a set of Plastool carbide insert tooling for the Maximat and wondered whether it would work o.k. on bronze, which seemed to be a decent bearing material. Wes pulled the machine apart one night and gave me the measurements: the shafts were .786 " while the bearings themselves had to fit in a 1.110 " slot. It took about an evening. There were also flats on the outside of these things for the slot, and another small flat for an adjustment screw on each. The carbide inserts cut just fine as did one of those super cheap brazed carbide boring bars. Jim-Bob watched as Wes slid the bearings on.... "Damn, Charles, that's sexual...." Payment for the work took the form of unlimited gourmet pizza for my family of four this weekend which in my case is just as good as money. Machine seems to work fine, and I guess Jim-Bob doesn't mind that the left hand row of ravioli biscuits always has a small dough awl lying across them. What the heck. Anyway, my point is, if you're hobby, homeshop machinist small time and looking for work, check out the restaurant business or leave a card with the local pasta/bread works/bakery/latte dispensing folks. It might help to pay for something, or at least get you well and truly fed. Charles M |
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I found my niche at my dentist's office.
One day, there was a box of broken or uninstalled dental equipment in the hall, and I noticed a broken item. I asked if he would like it fixed, spent two months working on a "dental casting condyle joint emulator" in my spare time, in aluminum, to replace the broken Bakelite, and earned a tidy hundred dollars or so, and several good tools, required to make the item. Now I am working on a custom tool for the man. Very hush hush. Doug |
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I do repairs like that all the time. Commercial machine shops don't
want to fool with them, so price themselves out of the market and I have fun making innovative repairs for people who would otherwise have to scrap a valuable machine. I'm sure most everyone on this forum has done the same thing. Bugs |
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In article .com,
Bugs wrote: I do repairs like that all the time. Commercial machine shops don't want to fool with them, so price themselves out of the market and I have fun making innovative repairs for people who would otherwise have to scrap a valuable machine. I'm sure most everyone on this forum has done the same thing. Bugs I seem to have missed the first part of this thread, so I might be out of line in what I am about to say. The machine shops might intentionally price themselves out of the market because of liability. Once you start being "innovative" you assume the liability for the changes and by extension the whole machine. We all know what that means in the first part of the 21st century in the USA. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade. Chuck P. PS:When I closed my business, on the advise of my attorney, I scraped several special machines we had built. We were covered by workers comp as long as our employees used them, but not if we sold them. |
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Anyway, my point is, if you're hobby, homeshop machinist small time and looking for work, check out the restaurant business or leave a card with the local pasta/bread works/bakery/latte dispensing folks. It might help to pay for something, or at least get you well and truly fed. Charles M Was in a shoe repair shop once getting a leather pouch sewn - guy had a *lot* of *old* machines. Of course I had to get my nose in there to see how they were made. He was complaining about having to spend something like $30. for a little special bolt for one of the machines. Dropped off a card and offered to try repairs on any stuff that broke - so far haven't heard from him. Those machines are made pretty well and seem to run forever. Ken. |
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You seem to be suffering a case of lawyeritis. G Have you ever heard
a lawyer say anything positive? My 'innovative' repairs mostly improve a machine by making it stronger or easier to use. Safety is always uppermost in my mind. The negativism of the legal community casts a pall over everything anybody does. Bugs |
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"Bugs" wrote in message
oups.com... Safety is always uppermost in my mind. The negativism of the legal community casts a pall over everything anybody does. The problem is not the "negativism of the legal community". The problem is the litigious society created by a self-serving legal community. |
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On 20 Jun 2005 06:38:32 -0700, the opaque "Bugs"
spake: You seem to be suffering a case of lawyeritis. G Have you ever heard a lawyer say anything positive? I have! My Work Comp lawyer (which I was forced to get after the Ins Co let me lay around for over a year) said TWO things which I felt were positive. The first was "We got more by settling out of court than the judge would have allowed if we had gone into his court room." ($15k + $6k for my Coleman College retraining.) The second was even nicer: "My cut is only 11%" My 'innovative' repairs mostly improve a machine by making it stronger or easier to use. Safety is always uppermost in my mind. The negativism of the legal community casts a pall over everything anybody does. Sucks, doesn't it? That's why wood and metal shops are dying all over the country. Once we're gone, there will be far fewer people to build things and repair the remaining machinery. Way sad. -------------------------------------------- -- I'm in touch with my Inner Curmudgeon. -- http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development ================================================== ========== |
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DeepDiver wrote: "Bugs" wrote in message roups.com... Safety is always uppermost in my mind. The negativism of the legal community casts a pall over everything anybody does. The problem is not the "negativism of the legal community". The problem is the litigious society created by a self-serving legal community. And...a court system that doesn't hold a person fully responsible for their own stupidity. You bear some responsibility because you didn't think and protect yourself from ALL the ways someone could do something stupid. "Reasonably prudent" is out the window. Koz |
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I do stuff like that too. Mostly for things of my own, but also for
the art department of the local high school. They have various tools that break and can be fixed, but the maintenance dept of the high school is geared to repair the building. One repair very similar to yours, was resurfacing the rolls of a small metal roller used by the jewelry students to make metal thinner. One of the high school students had tried to flatten a clothes hanger wire. A carbide cutter put a smooth finish on it. I don't get much reward for this work. But I do it a a volunteer. Dan |
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"Koz" wrote in message
news DeepDiver wrote: "Bugs" wrote in message groups.com... Safety is always uppermost in my mind. The negativism of the legal community casts a pall over everything anybody does. The problem is not the "negativism of the legal community". The problem is the litigious society created by a self-serving legal community. And...a court system that doesn't hold a person fully responsible for their own stupidity. You bear some responsibility because you didn't think and protect yourself from ALL the ways someone could do something stupid. "Reasonably prudent" is out the window. Yup. I include the court system in the superset of "self-serving legal community." After all, where do all the judges (who interpret the laws and set precedents) come from? I also include politicians (who write the laws), as most of them come from that same self-serving legal community (and even those who don't are influenced by the huge campaign donations from the lawyer's special interests groups). All in all, it's a perverted system where those in the legal profession are able to create the laws, interpret and rule upon the laws, and profit from the laws. |
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All in all, it's a perverted system where those in the legal profession are
able to create the laws, interpret and rule upon the laws, and profit from the laws. Isn't that a tautology? If you "create the laws, interpret and rule upon the laws", then you pretty much *have* to be in the legal profession, don't you? All sorts of people profit (and loose money) from all sorts of laws. Today I just found out I have to pay $300 just to *file* for a divorce... Just to get into rant-mode, breifly, but I think almost any "community" becomes self-serving, given enough time. And there are "bad apples" in any community... from police to preists. Lawyers are just easier to villify. |
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Instead of villifying the (never) popular legal profession, it's important to
consider that these ridiculous cases (and awards) are decided by a jury of folks off the street - not lawyers. If the lawyers confuse the jury with their legal angles, that is an indication that the jurors are not too bright. Most of the cases that are settled out-of-court are done so out of fear of these same "everyman" decisions. I suspect that people who award damages in these cases are just waiting for the day when they can become beneficiaries of similar handouts. The above argument notwithstanding, my personal opinion about lawyers is summed up by this: Q: When a lawyer dies, his grave is dug 12 feet deep, instead of the usual 6 feet. Why is this? A: Because, deep down, lawyers are really good people. Joe DeepDiver wrote: Yup. I include the court system in the superset of "self-serving legal community." After all, where do all the judges (who interpret the laws and set precedents) come from? I also include politicians (who write the laws), as most of them come from that same self-serving legal community (and even those who don't are influenced by the huge campaign donations from the lawyer's special interests groups). All in all, it's a perverted system where those in the legal profession are able to create the laws, interpret and rule upon the laws, and profit from the laws. |
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