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Rex B
 
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Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.
It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep. Dimensions
from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's it good for?
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Rex B wrote:

Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.
It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep. Dimensions
from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's it good for?


Keyway in it? Probably a L-00 taper. See the URL:
http://www.toolingsystems.com/cushman/manual/page5.html

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Grant Erwin wrote:
Rex B wrote:

Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.
It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep.
Dimensions from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's
it good for?



Keyway in it? Probably a L-00 taper. See the URL:
http://www.toolingsystems.com/cushman/manual/page5.html


Pretty certain there is no keyway, but there is a 5/16-18 allen head set
screw. Hard to tell by the diagram.
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:35:11 -0500, Rex B wrote:

Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.
It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep. Dimensions
from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's it good for?


Does it have OD threads and a .250 or so sized female keyway inside
the taper?

If so, its an L0 or L00

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If no keyway and the set screw enters the bore of the taper this sounds
like it may be for a hardinge. Picture of the spindle nose on this page
http://www.lathes.co.uk/hardinge/index.html


Rex B wrote:

Grant Erwin wrote:

Rex B wrote:

Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about
6" diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I
recognize. It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting
slightly narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5"
deep. Dimensions from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar?
What's it good for?




Keyway in it? Probably a L-00 taper. See the URL:
http://www.toolingsystems.com/cushman/manual/page5.html



Pretty certain there is no keyway, but there is a 5/16-18 allen head
set screw. Hard to tell by the diagram.





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In article , Rex B "" wrote:
Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.


The mounting of the chuck on the backplate, or the mounting of
the backplate on the lathe spindle?

It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep. Dimensions
from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's it good for?


As others have already mentioned, it sounds like a L-00, such as
I have on my Clausing. It *should* have a key slot, perhaps 3/8" wide,
in it to engage a key mounted by Allen head cap screws into a similar
key slot in the spindle nose. (A quick check through the 25th edition
of _Machinery's Handbook_ shows no hint of it in the chapter on tapers --
perhaps it is hiding somewhere else.

If it is an L-00 -- there should also be a large male thread
surrounding the socket, which mates with a female threaded ring loose
around the spindle, which is used to draw the backplate firmly onto the
taper. The spindle, of course, has a step to keep the ring from moving
too far forward.

L-00 sounds like a good bet for a 6" 3-jaw chuck, as it is
common on a 12" lathe. 4-jaw chucks tend to be larger on a 12" lathe,
say 8-10".

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:07:06 -0500, Rex B wrote:

Grant Erwin wrote:
Rex B wrote:

Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.
It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep.
Dimensions from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's
it good for?



Keyway in it? Probably a L-00 taper. See the URL:
http://www.toolingsystems.com/cushman/manual/page5.html


Pretty certain there is no keyway, but there is a 5/16-18 allen head set
screw. Hard to tell by the diagram.



Hummmm I wonder...could it be Rivett?

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On 3 Jun 2005 22:23:28 -0400, (DoN. Nichols)
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In article , Rex B "" wrote:
Amongst the tooling that came with a lathe is a small 3-jaw, about 6"
diameter. The mounting method on the backplate is not one I recognize.


The mounting of the chuck on the backplate, or the mounting of
the backplate on the lathe spindle?

It's a bell-mouthed taper about 2.5" in diameter, getting slightly
narrower at the bottom of the hole, which is about 1.5" deep. Dimensions
from memory/guesswork. Does this sound familiar? What's it good for?



Im sorry..I missed that 1.5" deep part. Yes, I think that it may be
Hardinge. They are rather shallow compared to L0. Or possible Rivett.
Ill have to go check one of my Hardinge back plates. I do have the 4'
cam lock types on both Hardinge lathes.
Ill also check the Rivett.
http://home.lightspeed.net/~gunner/myshop/rivett2.JPG

Gunner


As others have already mentioned, it sounds like a L-00, such as
I have on my Clausing. It *should* have a key slot, perhaps 3/8" wide,
in it to engage a key mounted by Allen head cap screws into a similar
key slot in the spindle nose. (A quick check through the 25th edition
of _Machinery's Handbook_ shows no hint of it in the chapter on tapers --
perhaps it is hiding somewhere else.

If it is an L-00 -- there should also be a large male thread
surrounding the socket, which mates with a female threaded ring loose
around the spindle, which is used to draw the backplate firmly onto the
taper. The spindle, of course, has a step to keep the ring from moving
too far forward.

L-00 sounds like a good bet for a 6" 3-jaw chuck, as it is
common on a 12" lathe. 4-jaw chucks tend to be larger on a 12" lathe,
say 8-10".

Enjoy,
DoN.


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the world has a long way to go to regain
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