cats pissing on the patio
what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop
this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. |
Moth balls. Cats hate 'em.
wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. |
Not to be a smartass, but get a dog, or at least see if you can 'borrow' a
friend's dog. wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. |
"Andrew Neilson" wrote in message ... Not to be a smartass, but get a dog, or at least see if you can 'borrow' a friend's dog. or you could just get a "beware of dog" sign... |
hehe
You are pre-supposing that these cats can read.... Though that does trigger a memory. When I was a kid, we had two cats. One day, I came home after playing with a friend's dog and of course, the cats were sniffing me up and down. Just for a hoot, I barked (yes, like a dog) and the cats got very alert. Perhaps some doggie's old blanket and a tape recording of a dog barking..... Though I do like the sign idea.... "George Lucas" wrote in message om... "Andrew Neilson" wrote in message ... Not to be a smartass, but get a dog, or at least see if you can 'borrow' a friend's dog. or you could just get a "beware of dog" sign... |
wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. Drop a note in each mailbox in your neighborhood, worded something like "A stray cat is doing such-and-such on my property. The cat will be trapped and killed within the next 7 days. If you love your cat......". Sign your name to it. The cops will visit you, but there's not a damned thing they can do about it. However, the cat will not show up any more, assuming it has a home. I did this many years ago, and included a photograph of a dog which was digging up my entire garden. It worked nicely, although the cops were not pleased. But, you want the cops to show up. Why? The person who complains to them will likely be the owner of the pet.* You want the cops to go BACK to that person and tell them that you sound pretty serious about this. * Since anyone who lets a dog roam the neighborhood unsupervised is an idiot (and a sociopath), the owner will probably also be stupid enough to call the cops, thereby identifying themselves as someone who's breaking the leash law. Duh. |
I went through this same kind of problem and researched and got all
sorts of advice. Are you sure you are doing the cage correctly? You have to put it in a place the cats will travel, have the proper size, give the proper bait, and be patient. Also, what are you going to do with the cat once you catch it? I assume you did what I did and got the cage from the local shelter and would send the cat there. Make sure your neighbors don't see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property generally don't like anything anti-cat and won't do anything even if you, say, put notes in their mailboxes. My cage didn't catch all the cats. Mothball and other deterrents didn't work. I finally found my last resort worked: a BB gun. Just don't be too close to the cat, as actually injuring one could be illegal. |
wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. You're lucky its only ****. This one house where every time I had finished a concrete pour a neighbor's cat walked all over it during the night. It could have walked around it but for some reason it prefers to walk on wet concrete. Anyway try vinegar and if you have access to a zoo, lion dung works too. |
wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. I have used a device called a Fi-Shock for several bothersome animals. It is an electrical shocker designed to electrify fences. It can be set up in all sorts of ways. Running between wires .......... on a garbage can .......... on a feed dish ....... on a car ....... lots of ways. One lead to the thing you want to electrify, the other to a ground or ground pad. It usually takes one hit on the Fi-Shock, and the animal won't come into throwing distance from where it got shocked. If they pee directly on it, that is usually about how far away they land on their first leap. It is hilarious to watch, and does provide some of that revenge factor. DO NOT let them see you set it up, and be careful not to let them see you watching them, or they associate it with you, and it doesn't work as well. Mine cost me about $30 online. It also works great if you have pesky diggers in your flower beds, raccoons in your garbage, etc. Or you just want to nail that sucker that's been peeing on your car wheels. Steve |
On Wed 30 Mar 2005 02:13:56p, SteveB wrote in alt.home.repair:
Or you just want to nail that sucker that's been peeing on your car wheels. My neighbor would resent being shocked like that! -- Wayne Boatwright ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
Vinegar or Pinesol have both worked for me in the past. Place liberally on
affected area. wrote in message ups.com... | what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop | this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no | avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. | |
wrote in message oups.com... I went through this same kind of problem and researched and got all sorts of advice. Are you sure you are doing the cage correctly? You have to put it in a place the cats will travel, have the proper size, give the proper bait, and be patient. Also, what are you going to do with the cat once you catch it? I assume you did what I did and got the cage from the local shelter and would send the cat there. Make sure your neighbors don't see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property generally don't like anything anti-cat and won't do anything even if you, say, put notes in their mailboxes. My cage didn't catch all the cats. Mothball and other deterrents didn't work. I finally found my last resort worked: a BB gun. Just don't be too close to the cat, as actually injuring one could be illegal. could be? not to mention you are an asshole... last resort of a weak mind. randy |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in
: wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. Drop a note in each mailbox in your neighborhood, worded something like "A stray cat is doing such-and-such on my property. The cat will be trapped and killed If you are trapping it,why must you kill it? Why not just take it to the local animal control services? If it is owned by someone,and tagged,it is not a "stray cat". Cats roam,and are not included in leash laws. You also have no legal right to kill it. Besides,he specified "short of catching it". If he did get hold of it,and it's tagged,he could send the owner a bill for whatever damages the pet caused. within the next 7 days. If you love your cat......". Sign your name to it. The cops will visit you, but there's not a damned thing they can do about it. However, the cat will not show up any more, assuming it has a home. I did this many years ago, and included a photograph of a dog which was digging up my entire garden. It worked nicely, although the cops were not pleased. But, you want the cops to show up. Why? The person who complains to them will likely be the owner of the pet.* You want the cops to go BACK to that person and tell them that you sound pretty serious about this. * Since anyone who lets a dog roam the neighborhood unsupervised is an idiot (and a sociopath), the owner will probably also be stupid enough to call the cops, thereby identifying themselves as someone who's breaking the leash law. Duh. Dogs are subject to leash laws as they can be dangerous to people. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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oups.com: I went through this same kind of problem and researched and got all sorts of advice. Are you sure you are doing the cage correctly? You have to put it in a place the cats will travel, have the proper size, give the proper bait, and be patient. Also, what are you going to do with the cat once you catch it? I assume you did what I did and got the cage from the local shelter and would send the cat there. Make sure your neighbors don't see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. generally don't like anything anti-cat and won't do anything even if you, say, put notes in their mailboxes. My cage didn't catch all the cats. Mothball and other deterrents didn't work. I finally found my last resort worked: a BB gun. Just don't be too close to the cat, as actually injuring one could be illegal. It IS illegal;cruelty to animals. Even shooting it is. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message ... On Wed 30 Mar 2005 02:13:56p, SteveB wrote in alt.home.repair: Or you just want to nail that sucker that's been peeing on your car wheels. My neighbor would resent being shocked like that! -- Wayne Boatwright Like I said, the entertainment is well worth the price. Steve |
Jim Yanik wrote:
" wrote in oups.com: see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. Depends on where you live. It's illegal in my county. Here's the excerpt from my county code: Sec. 6-3. Animals at large. (a) No person shall allow any animal to roam or stray or to be off the keeper's premises unless it is at all times under verbal control or physical restraint of a responsible person. Unless of course you have the cat under verbal control. - bl |
see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their
cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. Depends on where you live. It's illegal in my county. Here's the excerpt from my county code: Sec. 6-3. Animals at large. (a) No person shall allow any animal to roam or stray or to be off the keeper's premises unless it is at all times under verbal control or physical restraint of a responsible person. Unless of course you have the cat under verbal control. whether its legal or not for the cat to stray (or even practical), it is still illegal for you to shoot it. randy |
the cat has been caught and brought to the spca.
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rent or borow electric fence charger. lay cheap screen on patio and
connect fence charger. not lethal but very effective. try ****ing on screen your self one time and you will see why. On 30 Mar 2005 10:57:46 -0800, wrote: what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. |
"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message .. . "Doug Kanter" wrote in : wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. Drop a note in each mailbox in your neighborhood, worded something like "A stray cat is doing such-and-such on my property. The cat will be trapped and killed If you are trapping it,why must you kill it? Why not just take it to the local animal control services? If it is owned by someone,and tagged,it is not a "stray cat". Cats roam,and are not included in leash laws. You also have no legal right to kill it. I didn't say it should be killed. I said that the threat should be included in the warning note as an educational aid. The reason is simple: Some people do not become good neighbors until they believe their behavior is about to hit home in a big way. The threat often assists in this belief. It did, in my case. I had no intention of killing the neighbor's dog, although if I lived out in the sticks, I would have, if the dog was disturbing/destroying any part of a food garden. In that case, it is LEGAL to kill an animal, according to NY State law. Besides,he specified "short of catching it". If he did get hold of it,and it's tagged,he could send the owner a bill for whatever damages the pet caused. within the next 7 days. If you love your cat......". Sign your name to it. The cops will visit you, but there's not a damned thing they can do about it. However, the cat will not show up any more, assuming it has a home. I did this many years ago, and included a photograph of a dog which was digging up my entire garden. It worked nicely, although the cops were not pleased. But, you want the cops to show up. Why? The person who complains to them will likely be the owner of the pet.* You want the cops to go BACK to that person and tell them that you sound pretty serious about this. * Since anyone who lets a dog roam the neighborhood unsupervised is an idiot (and a sociopath), the owner will probably also be stupid enough to call the cops, thereby identifying themselves as someone who's breaking the leash law. Duh. Dogs are subject to leash laws as they can be dangerous to people. Right. That was the point in the last paragraph. :-) |
"bl" wrote in message ...
Jim Yanik wrote: " wrote in oups.com: see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. Depends on where you live. It's illegal in my county. Here's the excerpt from my county code: Sec. 6-3. Animals at large. (a) No person shall allow any animal to roam or stray or to be off the keeper's premises unless it is at all times under verbal control or physical restraint of a responsible person. Unless of course you have the cat under verbal control. I probably got lucky just once, but my cat set foot in my vegetable garden a few times and was treated to a quick shower with a cold hose. After that, it was as if there was an invisible fence around the plot. Even if I wasn't out there working, she'd walk around it, never through it. They *are* able to learn what's off limits, unlike dogs, which are as dumb as a bag of hammers. It might be possible to train the offending cat, even if it's not yours. I like the cayenne pepper idea. |
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:
I probably got lucky just once, but my cat set foot in my vegetable garden a few times and was treated to a quick shower with a cold hose. After that, it was as if there was an invisible fence around the plot. Even if I wasn't out there working, she'd walk around it, never through it. They *are* able to learn what's off limits, unlike dogs, which are as dumb as a bag of hammers. *Some* dogs *are* as dumb as a bag of hammers. But if you think they *all* are, you've obviously never had a border collie or a golden retriever. :-) -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
"xrongor" wrote in message
... see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. Depends on where you live. It's illegal in my county. Here's the excerpt from my county code: Sec. 6-3. Animals at large. (a) No person shall allow any animal to roam or stray or to be off the keeper's premises unless it is at all times under verbal control or physical restraint of a responsible person. Unless of course you have the cat under verbal control. whether its legal or not for the cat to stray (or even practical), it is still illegal for you to shoot it. Depends on the law where he lives. In many states (like NY), it is LEGAL to kill an animal which is destroying food crops, even if "crops" refers to a small vegetable garden. This is NOT to suggest that it would be safe or smart to shoot anything in a typical neighborhood. It almost never is, unless you're dealing with a dog attack in progress. But in rural areas, quite a few animals, including dogs, end up like Jimmy Hoffa. |
"Doug Miller" wrote in message
. com... In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: I probably got lucky just once, but my cat set foot in my vegetable garden a few times and was treated to a quick shower with a cold hose. After that, it was as if there was an invisible fence around the plot. Even if I wasn't out there working, she'd walk around it, never through it. They *are* able to learn what's off limits, unlike dogs, which are as dumb as a bag of hammers. *Some* dogs *are* as dumb as a bag of hammers. But if you think they *all* are, you've obviously never had a border collie or a golden retriever. :-) If I had sheep, I might like a border collie. But, they are one of the most hyperactive creatures known to man, and without something to absorb that energy, they are a nuisance. Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? |
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rent or borow electric fence charger. lay cheap screen on patio and connect fence charger. not lethal but very effective. try ****ing on screen your self one time and you will see why. On 30 Mar 2005 10:57:46 -0800, wrote: what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. I agree with the electric fence solution. You can use it to keep woodchucks out of your garden, also. I like the battery-operated type. |
"xrongor" wrote in message ... see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. Depends on where you live. It's illegal in my county. Here's the excerpt from my county code: Sec. 6-3. Animals at large. (a) No person shall allow any animal to roam or stray or to be off the keeper's premises unless it is at all times under verbal control or physical restraint of a responsible person. Unless of course you have the cat under verbal control. whether its legal or not for the cat to stray (or even practical), it is still illegal for you to shoot it. randy Only if you get caught. Steve |
Good for you. Thanks for having mercy on the critter. It might still be
euthanized, but at least you gave it a chance. wrote in message oups.com... the cat has been caught and brought to the spca. |
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message .com... *Some* dogs *are* as dumb as a bag of hammers. But if you think they *all* are, you've obviously never had a border collie or a golden retriever. :-) If I had sheep, I might like a border collie. But, they are one of the most hyperactive creatures known to man, and without something to absorb that energy, they are a nuisance. True enough... We have a border collie + Australian shepherd crossbreed. Best of both worlds: fabulous with sheep, but calm. Sleeps most of the time when he isn't working. Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? Not sick, just selfish and thoughtless. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
"Doug Miller" wrote in message om... In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message y.com... *Some* dogs *are* as dumb as a bag of hammers. But if you think they *all* are, you've obviously never had a border collie or a golden retriever. :-) If I had sheep, I might like a border collie. But, they are one of the most hyperactive creatures known to man, and without something to absorb that energy, they are a nuisance. True enough... We have a border collie + Australian shepherd crossbreed. Best of both worlds: fabulous with sheep, but calm. Sleeps most of the time when he isn't working. Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? Not sick, just selfish and thoughtless. Well, that's where we differ, and I'm not alone in this regard. However, I agree with your pipe soldering advice, which has worked nicely thus far, at least on the practice chunks, clamped in a vise. Not a speck of water has leaked out of those pieces. Of course, they were never used to actually conduct water to begin with, but that's just a detail. :-) |
True enough... We have a border collie + Australian shepherd crossbreed. Best of both worlds: fabulous with sheep, but calm. Sleeps most of the time when he isn't working. Actually, I think the best breed of dog is a mix of pit bull and collie. They will rip your arm off. But then they will go for help. Steve |
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"KLS" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:15:15 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? Not sick, just selfish and thoughtless. Yes, and they should be forced to eat their dog's **** if they won't clean it up immediately after deposit. Beer for you.... I thought I was the only one who saw things as they actually are. |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:05:59 GMT, "Dee" wrote:
Moth balls. Cats hate 'em. Ball pen hammer to the head. Cats hate 'em. :-P Seriously, I've heard citrus smells work as well if you don't like the mothball smell. The stuff they sell for natural bug repealent should work too. Now that repeals, but you will need a long term plan, like get rid of the smell with cleaning, and get rid of the stray. hth, tom wrote in message oups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:42:38 GMT, "George Lucas"
wrote: "Andrew Neilson" wrote in message ... Not to be a smartass, but get a dog, or at least see if you can 'borrow' a friend's dog. or you could just get a "beware of dog" sign... Cats are too stupid to read. |
On 31 Mar 2005 04:29:04 GMT, Jim Yanik . wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in : wrote in message ups.com... what an ungody stink. short of catching the stray bugger how do i stop this. house smells like an amonia factory. i tried a baited cage to no avail. and i don't have a cat inside to bring the buggers around. Drop a note in each mailbox in your neighborhood, worded something like "A stray cat is doing such-and-such on my property. The cat will be trapped and killed If you are trapping it,why must you kill it? Why not just take it to the local animal control services? I think that's the point, you will catch the cat, and turn it over. Providing no information of who you think it belongs too. Then the animal control services will kill the cat. The note never said the cat was going to be killed by the neighbor, just stating a possible outcome for not keeping your cat indoors. Your reaction sounds like same as the offending neighbor, and that's why the cops might be callled, and you need your story prepared for their visit. If it is owned by someone,and tagged,it is not a "stray cat". stray: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...onary&va=stray cat: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...tionary&va=cat Now let's put them together. STRAY and CAT = STRAY CAT get it? tom Cats roam,and are not included in leash laws. You also have no legal right to kill it. Besides,he specified "short of catching it". If he did get hold of it,and it's tagged,he could send the owner a bill for whatever damages the pet caused. within the next 7 days. If you love your cat......". Sign your name to it. The cops will visit you, but there's not a damned thing they can do about it. However, the cat will not show up any more, assuming it has a home. I did this many years ago, and included a photograph of a dog which was digging up my entire garden. It worked nicely, although the cops were not pleased. But, you want the cops to show up. Why? The person who complains to them will likely be the owner of the pet.* You want the cops to go BACK to that person and tell them that you sound pretty serious about this. * Since anyone who lets a dog roam the neighborhood unsupervised is an idiot (and a sociopath), the owner will probably also be stupid enough to call the cops, thereby identifying themselves as someone who's breaking the leash law. Duh. Dogs are subject to leash laws as they can be dangerous to people. |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:41:42 -0700, "xrongor"
wrote: see you catching or transporting the cat. Cat owners who allow their cats to illegally go off their property Its NOT illegal. Depends on where you live. It's illegal in my county. Here's the excerpt from my county code: Sec. 6-3. Animals at large. (a) No person shall allow any animal to roam or stray or to be off the keeper's premises unless it is at all times under verbal control or physical restraint of a responsible person. Unless of course you have the cat under verbal control. whether its legal or not for the cat to stray (or even practical), it is still illegal for you to shoot it. No it's not. Officer, he was charging at me, and I feared for my life. He could have had rabies! :-P randy |
In article , KLS wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:15:15 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? Not sick, just selfish and thoughtless. Yes, and they should be forced to eat their dog's **** if they won't clean it up immediately after deposit. Now *that* is sick. Throw it at them, I can see... but make them eat it? -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time? |
"Doug Miller" wrote in message . com... In article , KLS wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:15:15 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? Not sick, just selfish and thoughtless. Yes, and they should be forced to eat their dog's **** if they won't clean it up immediately after deposit. Now *that* is sick. Throw it at them, I can see... but make them eat it? People eat at Pizza Hut. What's the diff? |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:18:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "KLS" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:15:15 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Actually, though, it's dog owners I have a problem with. Very odd mind set. What sort of sick individual takes a pet, on a leash, off their own property, stops to let it crap on someone else's property, and then acts indignant when told you clean it up? Not sick, just selfish and thoughtless. Yes, and they should be forced to eat their dog's **** if they won't clean it up immediately after deposit. Beer for you.... I accept, thank you. I thought I was the only one who saw things as they actually are. No. I despise dog ****, including that of my own dogs, and I clean up their **** in the back yard regularly. Few things **** me off more than to see someone else's dog **** in my front yard. I also walk the two dogs in our city neighborhoods and parks every day for a couple of miles, which translates to lots of poop opportunities, and I bring AT LEAST 2 poop bags with me. I like the blue newspaper bags the best. |
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