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Default Brick Patio - Concrete Slab vs. Sand Set

We have a relatively formal 2 story brick house and want to add an adjoining
patio, so we want it to be somewhat compatible. What are the pros and cons of
having a slab with set in mortar bricks and not. Sand set does seem to cost
less, but you do not want to make the wrong decision on that basis.
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What are the pros and cons of
having a slab with set in mortar bricks and not. Sand set does seem to cost
less, but you do not want to make the wrong decision on that basis.

Depends how long you plan on living there,bricks set in mortar last alot
longer then in sand.you can even have cement colored and poured to look like
bricks but its really one slab .
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What are the pros and cons of
having a slab with set in mortar bricks and not. Sand set does seem to

cost
less, but you do not want to make the wrong decision on that basis.


There actually 3 options that I aware of:
Sand set over a compacted base.
Mud set over a compacted base.
Mud set or dry laid over a slab.

I have done and lived with the first two options on two different projects
and houses. The darn ants tend to bring your sand up out of the cracks on a
sand set. They do that enough and stuff starts to shift. I have been much
more pleased with my second project where I created a compacted gravel base
and set the pavers into about 1" of mortar. Then I filled the cracks with
dry mortar mix add added gentle moisture to set the mix. I should add that I
was using the concrete brick look pavers for both of these projects which
are laid up touching each other and not with a wide mortar joint.

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We have a relatively formal 2 story brick house and want to add an
adjoining
patio, so we want it to be somewhat compatible. What are the pros and cons
of
having a slab with set in mortar bricks and not. Sand set does seem to
cost
less, but you do not want to make the wrong decision on that basis.


Depends on weather, moisture, temp, shade. All these things affect choice.
Pavers or brick on compacted base, such as 4-5 inch. hand-compacted coarse
angular gravel, overlain by several inches of tamped and wetted sharp sand
or crushed rock base, can make a durable and attractive surface. Drains
well, easy to re-level or replace stones. Downside, gophers/moles can
undermine sand layer, insects can move the sand around, and you will need a
sturdy plastic, metal, or wood edge/border to keep the patio in one place.
You also have to to major digging and dirt removal - as much or more than
with a slab.
With brick mortared to reinforced concrete, you have good permanence as
well, more surface stability, no gopher effects, and easy to clean with a
pressure washer. Downside: in some areas you can get frost heaving, and
slabs will often tip or crack as they settle, over time. And concrete slabs
can look industrial and un-aesthetic.
Suggest you go to a home center and peruse how-to books on paths, patios,
and masonry. There are many, and give you precise instructions on how to
either build , or supervise, such projects.


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