My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world. It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.

Direct Relief International is one of the organizations helping the hundreds
of thousands of Tsunami victims. I recommend donating through them, as they
are highly respected and received a 100% efficiency rating by Forbes: Less
than 1% of the money they receive goes toward administrative and advertising
costs. Additionally, they have corporate sponsors who match contributions
by private individuals: "In 2003, Direct Relief International was able to
deliver $3,400 in medical aid for every $100 donated!"

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Thanks,

Jeff

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

Why not send blankets, food, clothing, bottled water, if you were to hand
the survivor a $20 where are they going to buy the afor mentioned?

If the USA sends 40% of the relief money, where are they going to buy the
supplies that are needed, China,France?


Who's going to handle the money, will it get to the people that need it?

Tom




"Jeff Harper" wrote in message
...
My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world. It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.

Direct Relief International is one of the organizations helping the
hundreds
of thousands of Tsunami victims. I recommend donating through them, as
they
are highly respected and received a 100% efficiency rating by Forbes: Less
than 1% of the money they receive goes toward administrative and
advertising
costs. Additionally, they have corporate sponsors who match contributions
by private individuals: "In 2003, Direct Relief International was able to
deliver $3,400 in medical aid for every $100 donated!"

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as
well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Thanks,

Jeff

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

twfsa wrote:
Why not send blankets, food, clothing, bottled water, if you were to hand
the survivor a $20 where are they going to buy the afor mentioned?

If the USA sends 40% of the relief money, where are they going to buy the
supplies that are needed, China,France?


Counties like India and Thailand cover a lot of ground. They'll buy it on the
local markets and not have to deal with transporting supplies half way around
the world.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

Jeff Harper wrote:
My God!
...

Most everyone has done something by paying their taxes and making
contributions to known agencies.

Everyone should be very careful about contributing to any fund they do
not personally know well. Some real jerks come out of the woodwork when
something like this happens.

I know nothing about the poster or the fund referred to, but I suggest
anyone considering any contribution to any find, do their homework first.


--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

Joseph Meehan wrote:
Jeff Harper wrote:

My God!
...


Most everyone has done something by paying their taxes and making
contributions to known agencies.

Everyone should be very careful about contributing to any fund they do
not personally know well. Some real jerks come out of the woodwork when
something like this happens.

I know nothing about the poster or the fund referred to, but I suggest
anyone considering any contribution to any find, do their homework first.



Good advice for sure.

I gave my additional donation for that southeast asian holocaust through
the Red Cross today.

But, Direct Relief International has been around for about 50 years and
appears to be among the best of their breed AFAICT.

Happy New Year All,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia

(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public
schools"

I wonder if the Red Cross can be totally trusted, given the way they
handled donations for 9-11-01 victims.

"JustCallMe Norman" wrote in message
...
I wonder if the Red Cross can be totally trusted, given the way they
handled donations for 9-11-01 victims.



Regardless, they are still doing good work and your contribution will still
greatly benefit desperate folks.

Let's say that because of inefficiency, etc., the Red Cross Disaster Relief
Fund uses your contribution to give seven instead of a possible ten sick
children antibiotics. That's a terrible thing, yet still a wonderful thing.

Direct Relief International:
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

Jeff

'I wonder if the Red Cross can be totally trusted, given the way they
handled donations for 9-11-01 victims.

Regardless, they are still doing good work and your contribution will
still greatly benefit desperate folks.
Let's say that because of inefficiency, etc., the Red Cross Disaster
Relief Fund uses your contribution to give seven instead of a possible
ten sick children antibiotics. That's a terrible thing, yet still a
wonderful thing.
Direct Relief International:
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html
Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

ME: Id like to know what percentage of donations are actually being
used for the crisis im donating to ; The Red Cross lost alot of
credibility in the way they handled the 9-11-01 crisis . Id want a
breakdown of how the money is allocated amongst Administration also ;
if theres some top Administrators of a Relief Organization that each
have 2 or 3 mutlimillion dollar homes and yachts as a result of huge
salaries, then, i think THAT is a tragedy. Im not making excuses for
not donating, because i would in fact like to and i have the necessary
financial resources to do so, but, i believe Fraud to be rampant in the
great majority of these seemingly good humanitarian outreaches.

I'm known as a skeptic to my family and friends, so I understand your
concern. But be careful not to use your cynicism as an excuse not to help.

Direct Relief International is a 100% legit organization that opens its
records for public scrutiny and routinely gets the highest marks possible.
If you did a tad of research yourself, before disuading others from
contributing to people in dire need, you'd know that.

You can also contribute via the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund (better than
your local Red Cross) if you want a name that you know. But I recommend
Direct Relief International, because I think it's the best. $20 from you
may result in $600 reaching the needy because of corporate matching
agreements in place before the tsunami (especially medicine).

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

*Millions* are facing starvation and sickness. They've lost their homes,
their means of income, and sanitation (clean water) is a major problem.

$20 from you may very well save more than one life.

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

P.S. I gave $200 yesterday after researching them. I'm posting because I
believe that by encouraging others, and they in turn encouraging still more
people, we will achieve far more good than my individual contribution. I
urge you to do the same. Take a few minutes of quiet reflection and try to
imagine how horrible it is for these folks..many of them orphaned children.


"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Jeff Harper wrote:
My God!
...

Most everyone has done something by paying their taxes and making
contributions to known agencies.

Everyone should be very careful about contributing to any fund they do
not personally know well. Some real jerks come out of the woodwork when
something like this happens.

I know nothing about the poster or the fund referred to, but I suggest
anyone considering any contribution to any find, do their homework first.


--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

There are a number of sites where you can check the bona fides of
various charities. One is at
http://www.charitynavigator.org/

It is important to give, but just as important to check before giving.
I have already seen postings urging contributions through a web site
that appeared to be legitimate, but the paypal contributions were routed
directly to the poster, rather than to a charitable organization. There
is no limit to the depravity of some people.

Jeff Harper wrote:

I'm known as a skeptic to my family and friends, so I understand your
concern. But be careful not to use your cynicism as an excuse not to help.

Direct Relief International is a 100% legit organization that opens its
records for public scrutiny and routinely gets the highest marks possible.
If you did a tad of research yourself, before disuading others from
contributing to people in dire need, you'd know that.

You can also contribute via the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund (better than
your local Red Cross) if you want a name that you know. But I recommend
Direct Relief International, because I think it's the best. $20 from you
may result in $600 reaching the needy because of corporate matching
agreements in place before the tsunami (especially medicine).

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

041231 1524 - Jeff Harper posted:

My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world. It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.


We all gave at the office. Uncle Samuel most graciously took our money and
gave it to the tsunami victims, so don't come around here anymore asking for
more.

"indago" wrote in message
...
041231 1524 - Jeff Harper posted:

My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world.
It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.


We all gave at the office. Uncle Samuel most graciously took our money
and
gave it to the tsunami victims, so don't come around here anymore asking
for
more.


Some of us might want to give more than a $1.30--which is about what your
share (per capita) of the U.S. pledged $350M equals--to help the massive
number of people now suddenly without food, shelter, medical attention,
parental supervision, etc., who will suffer and die without our help.

Direct Relief International:
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Or if you prefer, the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

041231 2159 - Jeff Harper posted:


"indago" wrote in message
...
041231 1524 - Jeff Harper posted:

My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world.
It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.


We all gave at the office. Uncle Samuel most graciously took our money
and
gave it to the tsunami victims, so don't come around here anymore asking
for
more.


Some of us might want to give more than a $1.30--which is about what your
share (per capita) of the U.S. pledged $350M equals--to help the massive
number of people now suddenly without food, shelter, medical attention,
parental supervision, etc., who will suffer and die without our help.

Direct Relief International:
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Or if you prefer, the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL


I just told you "don't come around here anymore asking for more".

Some of us might want to give more than a $1.30--which is about what your
share (per capita) of the U.S. pledged $350M equals--to help the massive
number of people now suddenly without food, shelter, medical attention,
parental supervision, etc., who will suffer and die without our help.

I cut out all the ads, But have a question anyway.

How many of the countries around the world sent aid to Floaridians who
lost everyting in the hurricanes this last year?

I am not asking for donations to the US , but I do realize

A Friend in Need is a Friend In Deed

appears that all our friends are getting help from us, but never send
any help when something terrible happens in the US.

This reply has no bearing on whether I think one should donate money.
This reply does not state that I have/will not donate.

This is a Home repair newsgroup. I shouldn't even reply to this bunch
of threads, but Jeff,..........please move on and advertise on another
group............this is not the place, even though there are good
people here that do care, no matter how they help or don't help.

I am really not looking for answers here, as you probably were not
either. Just wanted to take a snapshot to give validity to other
peoples thinking,not just yours.




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"MUADIB®" wrote in message
...

Some of us might want to give more than a $1.30--which is about what your
share (per capita) of the U.S. pledged $350M equals--to help the massive
number of people now suddenly without food, shelter, medical attention,
parental supervision, etc., who will suffer and die without our help.

I cut out all the ads, But have a question anyway.

How many of the countries around the world sent aid to Floaridians who
lost everyting in the hurricanes this last year?

I am not asking for donations to the US , but I do realize

A Friend in Need is a Friend In Deed

appears that all our friends are getting help from us, but never send
any help when something terrible happens in the US.

This reply has no bearing on whether I think one should donate money.
This reply does not state that I have/will not donate.

This is a Home repair newsgroup. I shouldn't even reply to this bunch
of threads, but Jeff,..........please move on and advertise on another
group............this is not the place, even though there are good
people here that do care, no matter how they help or don't help.

I am really not looking for answers here, as you probably were not
either. Just wanted to take a snapshot to give validity to other
peoples thinking,not just yours.


I was hit by two hurricanes this past year, and I can tell you that what
experienced was nowhere close to the tsunami. Further, we didn't need food
and medicine from other nations in order to survive.

You make a false analogy.

Besides, your reasoning is fallacious: If Bangladesh, one of the poorest
countries on the planet, didn't send aid to Florida for hurricane damages,
does that mean we shouldn't help them now? I guess in your mind it does.

Additionally, you grossly mischaracterize when you treat tsunami aid posts
as commercial advertising.

I'm guessing you have and will give zero to help tsunami victims. Your post
sounds like rationalization.

Happy holidays.

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html


That, or any of the non-scam charities listed he

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/citi...ing/relief.asp


--
-Graham

Remove the 'snails' from my email

"G. Morgan" wrote in message
...
Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as
well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html


That, or any of the non-scam charities listed he

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/citi...ing/relief.asp



Thanks for the good link, Graham. Which one(s) did you choose?

Jeff

Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:


"G. Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as
well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html


That, or any of the non-scam charities listed he

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/citi...ing/relief.asp



Thanks for the good link, Graham. Which one(s) did you choose?


Jeff,

To be completely honest, I have not given yet. I got paid today and will
probably give $50 to the collection my church is collecting this weekend.

I don't make a whole lot of money, but I'm hoping a little now and some more
later will do some good.


I did not know about http://www.directrelief.org until you brought it to my
attention. I see they are sending medical supplies. I have another $50 to
spare this week. I think I'll send it to http://www.directrelief.org. Thanks
for your information.


--
-Graham

Remove the 'snails' from my email

"G. Morgan" wrote in message
...
Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami
victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:


"G. Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami
victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a
small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as
well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html


That, or any of the non-scam charities listed he

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/citi...ing/relief.asp



Thanks for the good link, Graham. Which one(s) did you choose?


Jeff,

To be completely honest, I have not given yet. I got paid today and will
probably give $50 to the collection my church is collecting this weekend.

I don't make a whole lot of money, but I'm hoping a little now and some
more
later will do some good.


I did not know about http://www.directrelief.org until you brought it to
my
attention. I see they are sending medical supplies. I have another $50
to
spare this week. I think I'll send it to http://www.directrelief.org.
Thanks
for your information.


Good man.

Jeff

Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= G. Morgan = wrote:

Subject: How many here have done *something* to help the tsunami victims?
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Jeff Harper = wrote:

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as well.
(Pass this on in email if you like.)

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html


That, or any of the non-scam charities listed he

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/citi...ing/relief.asp



To the OP:

I did not mean to imply that yours was in any way a scam. In fact, your link is
listed with the others on Microsoft's page. I posted it in case someone wanted
to verify its validity, or wanted an alternate means of helping.








--
-Graham

Remove the 'snails' from my email

Jeff Harper wrote:
My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world. It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.

[snip]

Who are you? You've never posted here before, so why should we listen
to you preaching at us? But since you *are* here now, why have YOU
waited until now to donate anything? Or have you given anything?

I give a few dollars every month to World Relief (one of the agencies
giving tsunami aid), and it's none of your business what the actual
amount is.

You at least get a couple of points for capitalizing "God". Now go away
unless you are here to discuss home repair.

Best regards,
Bob

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Jeff Harper wrote:
My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world.
It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.

[snip]

Who are you? You've never posted here before, so why should we listen
to you preaching at us? But since you *are* here now, why have YOU
waited until now to donate anything? Or have you given anything?

I give a few dollars every month to World Relief (one of the agencies
giving tsunami aid), and it's none of your business what the actual
amount is.

You at least get a couple of points for capitalizing "God". Now go away
unless you are here to discuss home repair.

Best regards,
Bob

You get some credit for giving a few dollars to World Relief, or I'd have
more to say about your hostile response to a post encouraging people to help
others in desperate need.

I will answer one of your questions, the "Why have YOU waited until now to
donate anything? Or have you given anything?"

The answer is.. Your question is invalid. It strangely and inaccurately
presupposes that I have not given to charities before. I've given
frequently for decades. In the case of Tsunami relief, it is true, I waited
until there was a tsunami. You got me there. (I gave $200 through Direct
Relief International yesterday.)

Direct Relief International (corporate matching of your donation of as much
as 15x your contribution)
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Or if you prefer, the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

Ditto!
"zxcvbob" wrote in message
...
Jeff Harper wrote:
My God!

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters.

Your contribution now will go a long way in that region of the world. It
may go toward food or shelter or antibiotics that save several orphaned
children's lives.

[snip]

Who are you? You've never posted here before, so why should we listen to
you preaching at us? But since you *are* here now, why have YOU waited
until now to donate anything? Or have you given anything?

I give a few dollars every month to World Relief (one of the agencies
giving tsunami aid), and it's none of your business what the actual amount
is.

You at least get a couple of points for capitalizing "God". Now go away
unless you are here to discuss home repair.

Best regards,
Bob

why does it take a disaster to get anyone to do anything? if you want to be
a saint, just look around your neighborhood...

randy

"xrongor" wrote in message
...
why does it take a disaster to get anyone to do anything? if you want to
be
a saint, just look around your neighborhood...


Take your digital camera out and get a few pics for us of the millions of
homeless, orphaned, injured people without clean drinking water and food in
your neighborhood.

You won't find any.

You might get some shots of homeless adults panhandling on the corner, or if
it's warm enough out, sleeping on a bench or even the sidewalk. Do we need
to do more for this segment of society? Yes. There are, however, programs
in place if they avail themselves. No one in the U.S. need starve or go
without emergency medical treatment. Heck, the folks in our jails have it
far better than the tsunami victims right now.

So, help around your neighborhood AND help those devastated by the tsunami.

Direct Relief International (corporate matching of your donation of as much
as 15x your contribution)
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Or if you prefer, the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

you're so busy promoting your agenda, you completely missed the point.
looks like a nice canned pre programmed response too.

go peddle your fund elsewhere.

"xrongor" wrote in message
...
you're so busy promoting your agenda, you completely missed the point.
looks like a nice canned pre programmed response too.

go peddle your fund elsewhere.



*sigh* I'm not peddling anything, nor was my response to you "pre
programmed."

Have you given anything at all? I doubt it.

Direct Relief International (corporate matching of your donation of as much
as 15x your contribution)
http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund:
https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

"Jeff Harper" wrote
My God!

pitch for $ snipped

I see you asking people what they have done. I seen people tell you their
tax $ are paying, and you want more.

Now, I'm going to tell you something here. I hope you call the Red Cross, or
anyone which doesn't believe me calls and find out for themselves.

I called and offered to go help personally, Red Cross said they can't accept
that. I offered to send some canned goods, to help feed the needy. Red
Cross said they have plenty of blanket's, canned goods, and clothes. They
said to send cash.

I'm here to tell you and your fund, exactly what I told Red Cross. Kiss my
ass if you can't accept what I can afford to give you.

It's no wonder people are sick of these charities and their "just send
cash", we'll decided what we want to do with it attitude. It's enough to
make one sick.

Hope you and yours have a Happy New Year. That's all I got to offer.

"Uncle" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Harper" wrote
My God!

pitch for $ snipped

I see you asking people what they have done. I seen people tell you their
tax $ are paying, and you want more.

Now, I'm going to tell you something here. I hope you call the Red Cross,
or
anyone which doesn't believe me calls and find out for themselves.

I called and offered to go help personally, Red Cross said they can't
accept
that. I offered to send some canned goods, to help feed the needy. Red
Cross said they have plenty of blanket's, canned goods, and clothes. They
said to send cash.

I'm here to tell you and your fund, exactly what I told Red Cross. Kiss
my
ass if you can't accept what I can afford to give you.

It's no wonder people are sick of these charities and their "just send
cash", we'll decided what we want to do with it attitude. It's enough to
make one sick.

Hope you and yours have a Happy New Year. That's all I got to offer.


Well, your heart's in the right place, I think. The charities may have
valid reasons though..perhaps the cost of collecting and shipping a can of
beets to Asia is a good deal more expensive than using the money you would
have spent on more beats to purchase rice in areas neighboring the tsunami
damaged region.

If you give through Direct Relief International, $5 from you may result in
$150 reaching the needy because of corporate matching agreements in place
before the tsunami (especially medicine).

http://www.directrelief.org/sections...us/donate.html

Jeff

P.S. I have no affiliation with Direc Relief International other than my
support of what they are doing.