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When to replace water heater?
I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously
when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
tivo-guy wrote:
I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. Avg life on gas heaters is 10 years. YMMV Jim |
This $200 rebate, to qualify, do they say who you have to get the next
one through? I feel an inflated installation charge/unit price coming. I imagine they will restrict you to buying a gas unit over electric so what other rules are in there? If you can go to Sears/Lowes/HD and get a new one installed for $400 or less, and still get the rebate, then that might not be a bad deal. Mines 26 years old and on its 3rd set of elements(electric). I drain it every two years and check the elements. Have you been draining it to remove any sediment build-up? |
My electric water heater is 27 years old and going strong. It seems
foolish to replace something unless you have to. On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:08:53 -0500, "tivo-guy" wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
You could check the anode and replace it if necessary. The anode is there
to protect the glass. Once it dissolves the water starts on the glass. "tivo-guy" wrote in message ... I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
Tivo you must live in Georgia! I am getting mine installed tomorrow. I
am replacing a 14 year-old AO Smith. I decided to take the Home Depot route and bought the 12-year warranty GE 40 GAL. Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! tivo-guy wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
"Art" wrote in message nk.net... You could check the anode and replace it if necessary. The anode is there to protect the glass. Once it dissolves the water starts on the glass. Protect the glass? |
Hot water heaters are not that hard to replace yourself. I did mine
about 6 years ago - try to get one that is the same height as the existing one. cold water in, hot water out, connect the vent, light it up, that's it... I think I bought mine at HD for about $325, it was the best 40g one they had. (I only have two people in my house.) FWIW, my old one gave symptoms of going when it failed to keep up with hot water demands...that when I got rid of it. When it starts to go, replace it, but that gas co. deal looks like a sucker bet. Bluesman |
wrote in message
oups.com... Hot water heaters are not that hard to replace yourself. I did mine about 6 years ago - try to get one that is the same height as the existing one. cold water in, hot water out, connect the vent, light it up, that's it... I think I bought mine at HD for about $325, it was the best 40g one they had. (I only have two people in my house.) FWIW, my old one gave symptoms of going when it failed to keep up with hot water demands...that when I got rid of it. When it starts to go, replace it, but that gas co. deal looks like a sucker bet. What do you mean - sucker bet? |
tivo-guy wrote:
I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. Local conditions make the biggest difference and different brands and models also make a difference. The best way is to be in a new development where all the homes were built at about the same time using the same hot water heaters. As you start seeing your neighbors replacing theirs, it is time to do the same. -- Joseph Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math |
I am in GA. Roswell to be exact. So you're going to get the $200 AGL offer
and the $50 gift card from HD for buying a heater there? Out of curiosity, how much will your installation cost? Did you go through HD? Thanks! "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote in message ... Tivo you must live in Georgia! I am getting mine installed tomorrow. I am replacing a 14 year-old AO Smith. I decided to take the Home Depot route and bought the 12-year warranty GE 40 GAL. Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! tivo-guy wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
"tivo-guy" wrote in message ... I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. Replace if: 1) When the tenant calls and tell you there is no hot water. 2) Water is just warm even you crank the thermostat way up. 3) Major rust in or around the tank. I never had a ruptured tank, mine just goes out or doesn't get hot. 10 year old tank may last for just one more day or for another 10 or more years. For me I consider a 10 year old tank fully deprecated much like a 10 year old car and if someone give me $200 and my net installed cost not over $400 for a 50 gal tank I would go for it. A new tank should also save you on the energy bill. |
The first thing you need to do is check the anode and the dip tube. The
best thing I have ever seen on water heaters is he http://waterheaterrescue.com/ When you read through the information here you might very well take steps to make the one you have last as long as you own your house. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "tivo-guy" wrote in message ... I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
Frank wrote:
"Art" wrote in message nk.net... You could check the anode and replace it if necessary. The anode is there to protect the glass. Once it dissolves the water starts on the glass. Protect the glass? Yes. Glass is soluble in water. Slightly. Something else few people know: the only known solvent for carbon is liquid iron. |
"Peter Bagrationoff" wrote Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! A "licensed plumber" installed a new heater for my neighbor, a very anal type. The neighbor, not the plumber. The nice plumber only charged Dan $600. Dan, of course, got the heater on sale at Home Depot, so saved a lot there. And since it was done by a "licensed plumber", it is warrantied, as Dan explained. Well, the water heater is warrantied, and Dan would ONLY have to pay the labor to have it changed. I, on the other hand, change my own. In the family, we have three residences, and four rental properties. When it starts goofing up, I shoot it and drag it to the curb. I buy another at HD. Of course, I save the $600 plumber's labor, and I figure that puts me two water heaters ahead each time I change one myself, thus giving me a "two water heater warranty." I like that better because I don't have to keep all those papers, and I won't go out of business in the next ten years (hopefully) and leave myself hanging on to a worthless warranty. If I do go out of business (die) in the meantime, I ain't going to give a hoot about the water heater anyway. Warranties are like toilet paper. Good for wiping, and not much else. Steve |
"SteveB" wrote in message news:NyHAd.24313$Cl3.22428@fed1read03... "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! A "licensed plumber" installed a new heater for my neighbor, a very anal type. The neighbor, not the plumber. The nice plumber only charged Dan $600. Dan, of course, got the heater on sale at Home Depot, so saved a lot there. And since it was done by a "licensed plumber", it is warrantied, as Dan explained. Well, the water heater is warrantied, and Dan would ONLY have to pay the labor to have it changed. I, on the other hand, change my own. In the family, we have three residences, and four rental properties. When it starts goofing up, I shoot it and drag it to the curb. I buy another at HD. Of course, I save the $600 plumber's labor, and I figure that puts me two water heaters ahead each time I change one myself, thus giving me a "two water heater warranty." I like that better because I don't have to keep all those papers, and I won't go out of business in the next ten years (hopefully) and leave myself hanging on to a worthless warranty. If I do go out of business (die) in the meantime, I ain't going to give a hoot about the water heater anyway. Warranties are like toilet paper. Good for wiping, and not much else. $600 to install a water heater in robbery IMO! It's like a 2 hour job if you take 2 coffee breaks. Those utility company rebates almost always require that an overpriced 'professional' must do the installation which more than eliminates any saving. I replaced mine for $150 and bought the model with the basic warranty 2-4 years IIRC. With an anode rod they produce almost no sediment. |
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:08:53 -0500, "tivo-guy" wrote:
I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. Water heaters suffer from only a few problems, only two of which require replacement. If the water heater leaks in the tank, you basically need to replace it. And if the water heater is inefficient enough that a newer heater can recover it's cost in a few years of energy savings, it's time to replace. With the rebate you might be able to meet criteria 2, but do the math. Just about everything else on a water heater can be repaired/replaced rather inexpensively. That's why the rule of thumb is to replace it when it leaks, and not before. Jeff |
$600 to install a water heater in robbery IMO! It's like a 2 hour job if you
take 2 coffee breaks. Locally a major part of the fee is disposal. A gas heater, with changes to the flue and gas piping needed to accomodate a newer heater might run $600 to install even at a reasonable rate. Jeff |
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:08:53 -0500, "tivo-guy" wrote:
I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. I probably would not bother it until it fails to heat. You have a catch pan with drain pipe for the heater, right? I have seen a water heater to last 40 years, but that's not too common. |
Didn't know anything about a $50 gift card. Paying $280 for install
because our home is 14 years old and we didn't have a recovery tank. tivo-guy wrote: I am in GA. Roswell to be exact. So you're going to get the $200 AGL offer and the $50 gift card from HD for buying a heater there? Out of curiosity, how much will your installation cost? Did you go through HD? Thanks! "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote in message ... Tivo you must live in Georgia! I am getting mine installed tomorrow. I am replacing a 14 year-old AO Smith. I decided to take the Home Depot route and bought the 12-year warranty GE 40 GAL. Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! tivo-guy wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
Good for you!
SteveB wrote: "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! A "licensed plumber" installed a new heater for my neighbor, a very anal type. The neighbor, not the plumber. The nice plumber only charged Dan $600. Dan, of course, got the heater on sale at Home Depot, so saved a lot there. And since it was done by a "licensed plumber", it is warrantied, as Dan explained. Well, the water heater is warrantied, and Dan would ONLY have to pay the labor to have it changed. I, on the other hand, change my own. In the family, we have three residences, and four rental properties. When it starts goofing up, I shoot it and drag it to the curb. I buy another at HD. Of course, I save the $600 plumber's labor, and I figure that puts me two water heaters ahead each time I change one myself, thus giving me a "two water heater warranty." I like that better because I don't have to keep all those papers, and I won't go out of business in the next ten years (hopefully) and leave myself hanging on to a worthless warranty. If I do go out of business (die) in the meantime, I ain't going to give a hoot about the water heater anyway. Warranties are like toilet paper. Good for wiping, and not much else. Steve |
Go to www.homedepot.com and look under rebates.....
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...D=9876&pos=n47 "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote in message ... Didn't know anything about a $50 gift card. Paying $280 for install because our home is 14 years old and we didn't have a recovery tank. tivo-guy wrote: I am in GA. Roswell to be exact. So you're going to get the $200 AGL offer and the $50 gift card from HD for buying a heater there? Out of curiosity, how much will your installation cost? Did you go through HD? Thanks! "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote in message ... Tivo you must live in Georgia! I am getting mine installed tomorrow. I am replacing a 14 year-old AO Smith. I decided to take the Home Depot route and bought the 12-year warranty GE 40 GAL. Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! tivo-guy wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
What if instead of failing to heat, it leaks instead, which is the more
common failure mode? And there have been lots of cases where a 10+ yr old gas heater suddenly leaked so bad that it flooded the basement and caused thousands in damage. One has to evaluate what the consequences of such a failure will do in their particular situation, ie where is the water heater located and what will happen if it fails. Somewhere in the 10-15 yr range is typically all you get with a gas unit, which is what tivo guy has, while electric units can last 20 or so. I got 11 years out of mine before it developed what I would call a moderate leak in the middle of the night. When you consider a new one that may be more energy efficient, plus a $200 deal, I'd probably replace it now. |
rip off. Telling you it is a great deal but if you combine the cost of
the tank they want you to get and the installer they want you to use, you will end up spending more than you would have on your own. I could be wrong- look into it, see what the restictions are, it may be a good deal. Bluesman |
Thanks Tivo! I would not have noticed that. I have to buy a chainsaw
so this will help! tivo-guy wrote: Go to www.homedepot.com and look under rebates..... http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...D=9876&pos=n47 "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote in message ... Didn't know anything about a $50 gift card. Paying $280 for install because our home is 14 years old and we didn't have a recovery tank. tivo-guy wrote: I am in GA. Roswell to be exact. So you're going to get the $200 AGL offer and the $50 gift card from HD for buying a heater there? Out of curiosity, how much will your installation cost? Did you go through HD? Thanks! "Peter Bagrationoff" wrote in message ... Tivo you must live in Georgia! I am getting mine installed tomorrow. I am replacing a 14 year-old AO Smith. I decided to take the Home Depot route and bought the 12-year warranty GE 40 GAL. Just make sure a licenced plumber installs it or you won't get the rebate! tivo-guy wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
The heater costs $359 now and will cost $359 after the rebate. Only
difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Good deal for anyone getting ready to change the tank anyway. Mine is 14 years old and I get lots of sediment in my hot water even after flushing and it is not very efficient. wrote: rip off. Telling you it is a great deal but if you combine the cost of the tank they want you to get and the installer they want you to use, you will end up spending more than you would have on your own. I could be wrong- look into it, see what the restictions are, it may be a good deal. Bluesman |
I agree. My WH has been delivering since '82. Why fix it if it aint broke?
Joe davefr wrote: My electric water heater is 27 years old and going strong. It seems foolish to replace something unless you have to. On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:08:53 -0500, "tivo-guy" wrote: I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. The reason I'm asking is that our local gas company is offering a $200 rebate to customers for their purchase and installation of a new water heater. Our 50-gal water heater appears to be functioning just fine but it's 10 years old. From what I can tell it has a 5 year warranty from Rheem. I'm wondering if it would be wise, or overly cautious, to replace it at this point. Any advice? Thanks. |
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Peter Bagrationoff wrote on 30 Dec 2004:
Only difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Um, as someone else posted, installation should involve very little time. An hour if no major re-piping is needed, two if it is. Even with expensive plumber rates, total installation cost should be under the $200. If you're paying a lot more than that, the rebate is worthless. If the issue is disposal of the old heater, it's worth seeing what your community's/trash hauler's policies are. If you can just put it out on the curb for them to haul off, it's not worth paying extra for that service. -- Doug Boulter To reply by e-mail, remove the obvious word from the e-mail address |
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:40:16 -0600, Doug Boulter
wrote: Peter Bagrationoff wrote on 30 Dec 2004: Only difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Um, as someone else posted, installation should involve very little time. An hour if no major re-piping is needed, two if it is. Even with expensive plumber rates, total installation cost should be under the $200. If you're paying a lot more than that, the rebate is worthless. If the issue is disposal of the old heater, it's worth seeing what your community's/trash hauler's policies are. If you can just put it out on the curb for them to haul off, it's not worth paying extra for that service. What planet are you living on Doug? No Professional plummer is going to drive their van to your home, diagnose the water heater, leave to go pick up the new heater, come back with it, drain and remove your old one, install the new one, check it for proper operation and haul away the old one for $200 labor! An hour to change out a water heater? You've obviously never done a water heater replacement start to finish. Bubba |
Lets see, cold water. Hot water. Vent.
I guess you just leave that black pipe disconnected? Hey, it's making a hissing noise and smells like rotton eggs. Well, never mind. -- Christopher A. Young This space intentionally left blank www.lds.org www.mormons.com wrote in message oups.com... Hot water heaters are not that hard to replace yourself. I did mine about 6 years ago - try to get one that is the same height as the existing one. cold water in, hot water out, connect the vent, light it up, that's it... I think I bought mine at HD for about $325, it was the best 40g one they had. (I only have two people in my house.) FWIW, my old one gave symptoms of going when it failed to keep up with hot water demands...that when I got rid of it. When it starts to go, replace it, but that gas co. deal looks like a sucker bet. Bluesman |
Well the guys from Bynum Plumbing came over yesterday and did a great
job on the install. It took two guys about two hours to drain the old heater, remove it, install the new one, and add a thermal expansion tank. They took away the old unit as well. Everything was cleaned up when they were done and they even bled all the air from the water line before leaving. After the rebate and the gift card, installation costs me $30. Doubt you could even do it yourself that cheap Doug. Time is money to me, and that was well worth it! Doug Boulter wrote: Peter Bagrationoff wrote on 30 Dec 2004: Only difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Um, as someone else posted, installation should involve very little time. An hour if no major re-piping is needed, two if it is. Even with expensive plumber rates, total installation cost should be under the $200. If you're paying a lot more than that, the rebate is worthless. If the issue is disposal of the old heater, it's worth seeing what your community's/trash hauler's policies are. If you can just put it out on the curb for them to haul off, it's not worth paying extra for that service. |
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Lets see, cold water. Hot water. Vent. I guess you just leave that black pipe disconnected? Hey, it's making a hissing noise and smells like rotton eggs. Well, never mind. Don't forget the T&P valve and the pipe to run the drain out of the house. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
On 31 Dec 2004 18:35:06 GMT, Marina wrote:
Bubba wrote in : On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:40:16 -0600, Doug Boulter wrote: Peter Bagrationoff wrote on 30 Dec 2004: Only difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Um, as someone else posted, installation should involve very little time. An hour if no major re-piping is needed, two if it is. Even with expensive plumber rates, total installation cost should be under the $200. If you're paying a lot more than that, the rebate is worthless. If the issue is disposal of the old heater, it's worth seeing what your community's/trash hauler's policies are. If you can just put it out on the curb for them to haul off, it's not worth paying extra for that service. What planet are you living on Doug? No Professional plummer is going to drive their van to your home, diagnose the water heater, leave to go pick up the new heater, come back with it, drain and remove your old one, install the new one, check it for proper operation and haul away the old one for $200 labor! An hour to change out a water heater? You've obviously never done a water heater replacement start to finish. Bubba If I recall right our water heater was replaced about 6-7 years ago for somewhere around $350. Living in the past, are "we"? Bubba |
On 31 Dec 2004 18:35:06 GMT, Marina wrote:
Bubba wrote in : On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:40:16 -0600, Doug Boulter wrote: Peter Bagrationoff wrote on 30 Dec 2004: Only difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Um, as someone else posted, installation should involve very little time. An hour if no major re-piping is needed, two if it is. Even with expensive plumber rates, total installation cost should be under the $200. If you're paying a lot more than that, the rebate is worthless. If the issue is disposal of the old heater, it's worth seeing what your community's/trash hauler's policies are. If you can just put it out on the curb for them to haul off, it's not worth paying extra for that service. What planet are you living on Doug? No Professional plummer is going to drive their van to your home, diagnose the water heater, leave to go pick up the new heater, come back with it, drain and remove your old one, install the new one, check it for proper operation and haul away the old one for $200 labor! An hour to change out a water heater? You've obviously never done a water heater replacement start to finish. Bubba If I recall right our water heater was replaced about 6-7 years ago for somewhere around $350. ON second thought, recall right......... about 6-7......... somewhere........ around........ Yeah, right. Like you have any ****in clue. Most new 50gal gas water heaters cost almost that much to purchase now. Thats not even counting markup and installation by a professional plummer. This all thanks to the most recent government safety changes because they are so many stupid homeowners out there that think it is no problem storing gasoline, paint and other flammable materials right next to the water heater. Just remember, the next time you see the most ridiculous stupid warning label printed, remember, there was at least one idiot that did just that! Bubba |
On 31 Dec 2004 20:08:47 GMT, Marina wrote:
Bubba wrote in : On 31 Dec 2004 18:35:06 GMT, Marina wrote: Bubba wrote in : On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:40:16 -0600, Doug Boulter wrote: Peter Bagrationoff wrote on 30 Dec 2004: Only difference is I am saving $200 on the installation because of the rebate. No-brainer to me! Um, as someone else posted, installation should involve very little time. An hour if no major re-piping is needed, two if it is. Even with expensive plumber rates, total installation cost should be under the $200. If you're paying a lot more than that, the rebate is worthless. If the issue is disposal of the old heater, it's worth seeing what your community's/trash hauler's policies are. If you can just put it out on the curb for them to haul off, it's not worth paying extra for that service. What planet are you living on Doug? No Professional plummer is going to drive their van to your home, diagnose the water heater, leave to go pick up the new heater, come back with it, drain and remove your old one, install the new one, check it for proper operation and haul away the old one for $200 labor! An hour to change out a water heater? You've obviously never done a water heater replacement start to finish. Bubba If I recall right our water heater was replaced about 6-7 years ago for somewhere around $350. ON second thought, recall right......... about 6-7......... somewhere........ around........ Yeah, right. Like you have any ****in clue. Most new 50gal gas water heaters cost almost that much to purchase now. Thats not even counting markup and installation by a professional plummer. This all thanks to the most recent government safety changes because they are so many stupid homeowners out there that think it is no problem storing gasoline, paint and other flammable materials right next to the water heater. Just remember, the next time you see the most ridiculous stupid warning label printed, remember, there was at least one idiot that did just that! Bubba Don't worry, "Bubba". Your vacation from junior high will be over and you'll be back in your school's detention in no time. Marina "Ahhh if only to turn back the hands of time.............." Bubba |
If your water is average in terms of hardness, then every 14-16 years id
replace the water heater. Once it starts banging when firing (indicating that it has a load of sediment in the bottom )...its time to replace it --- normally, its at about 12-16 years before this takes place to the point where its banging alot, and loudly. Once you install a new water heater, drain 5 gallons out every month, under pressure by hooking up a hose to the drain valve. This will 'theoretically' extend its life. |
tivo-guy wrote:
I'm looking for some advice on when to replace a water heater. Obviously when it ruptures and water goes all over your basement is a good time, but prior to that, what is a good rule of thumb. Ok, popular concensus is that gas water heaters last 10-14 years whereas electrics last 20-40 years. Why the difference? (I thought tank life was primarily determined by anode condition) Is there any difference between natural gas and lp gas tank life? (Lp having lower btu rating, therefore cooler heating) Bob S. |
This $200 rebate, to qualify, do they say who you have to get the next
one through? I feel an inflated installation charge/unit price coming. I imagine they will restrict you to buying a gas unit over electric so what other rules are in there? If you can go to Sears/Lowes/HD and get a new one installed for $400 or less, and still get the rebate, then that might not be a bad deal. Mines 26 years old and on its 3rd set of elements(electric). I drain it every two years and check the elements. Have you been draining it to remove any sediment build-up? |
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