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Bubba
N.Y. S. Code section1225. Carbon Monoxide Alarm States :
The required carbon monoxide alarm shall be installed in the
immediate vicinity of the bedroom(s) on the lowest floor level of the
dwelling unit containing bedroom(s)

From: "Bubba"
Subject: CO Detected
Date: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:40 PM

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:05:55 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:

Several comments. NIOSH exposure level is 50 ppm (level at which worker

can
be exposure to continuously) so 14 is not a problem by itself. I would
move the detector around the house to see what is the source. Check the
heated air from the furnace to see if there is a leak in the plenum.

Take
the detector outside if not too cold and see what its zero level is. I
assume a gas stove will put out a small amount of CO since it vents into

the
house.


You know, Im almost shocked by some of the comments Im seeing posted
in here about CO. Im just going to assume that there is much unknown
advice to the average homeowner about CO?
You would have to be absolutely NUTS to knowingly expose yourself to
50ppm of CO continuously! Even 14PPM! Below is a level that may be
safe (009 PPM) but I still wouldnt knowingly expose myself to that or
any other level

ASHRAE 62-89 (American Society of Heating, Refrigeration and Air
Conditioning Engineers)
009 PPM The maximum allowable concentration for continuous (24 hr)
exposure. ASHRAE states the ventilation air shall meet the out door
air standard referenced to EPA and 9 PPM.

You also, for the most part, cannot use a household CO detector to
detect a CO leak in a furnace plenum. The amount of air from the
blower in the furnace dilutes the CO so much that it takes a long time
and/or large concentration for your detector to register the CO.
Your assumption of a gas stove putting out CO is incorrect also. If it
is putting out CO it is burning poorly or it is causing incomplete
combustion. If it is, GET IT FIXED!
Dont rely wholy on your UL listed CO detector. Read the info. See what
kind of levels your detector alarms at. You might find it "alarming".
Bubba




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al wrote:
Bubba
N.Y. S. Code section1225. Carbon Monoxide Alarm States :
The required carbon monoxide alarm shall be installed in the
immediate vicinity of the bedroom(s) on the lowest floor level of the
dwelling unit containing bedroom(s)

From: "Bubba"
Subject: CO Detected
Date: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:40 PM

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:05:55 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:

Several comments. NIOSH exposure level is 50 ppm (level at which worker

can
be exposure to continuously) so 14 is not a problem by itself. I would
move the detector around the house to see what is the source. Check the
heated air from the furnace to see if there is a leak in the plenum.

Take
the detector outside if not too cold and see what its zero level is. I
assume a gas stove will put out a small amount of CO since it vents into

the
house.


You know, Im almost shocked by some of the comments Im seeing posted
in here about CO. Im just going to assume that there is much unknown
advice to the average homeowner about CO?
You would have to be absolutely NUTS to knowingly expose yourself to
50ppm of CO continuously! Even 14PPM! Below is a level that may be
safe (009 PPM) but I still wouldnt knowingly expose myself to that or
any other level

ASHRAE 62-89 (American Society of Heating, Refrigeration and Air
Conditioning Engineers)
009 PPM The maximum allowable concentration for continuous (24 hr)
exposure. ASHRAE states the ventilation air shall meet the out door
air standard referenced to EPA and 9 PPM.

You also, for the most part, cannot use a household CO detector to
detect a CO leak in a furnace plenum. The amount of air from the
blower in the furnace dilutes the CO so much that it takes a long time
and/or large concentration for your detector to register the CO.
Your assumption of a gas stove putting out CO is incorrect also. If it
is putting out CO it is burning poorly or it is causing incomplete
combustion. If it is, GET IT FIXED!
Dont rely wholy on your UL listed CO detector. Read the info. See what
kind of levels your detector alarms at. You might find it "alarming".
Bubba





One also needs to recognize that some (if not all) consumer
CO alarms may not detect below 11 ppm. The instructions on
my Nighthawk also say that it won't display between 11 and
29 unless you punch the max level button. So normally you
wouldn't even know if the level got as high as 29 and will
never know if the level is between 0 and 10 ppm.
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Bottom line if you read more than Zero it is worth investigating. Zero
is a safe level, 14 indicates a problem that longterm Is bad

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So just what are you trying to state?
If the bedroom is in the basement, its getting a CO detector.
If the bedroom is on the 4th floor, its getting a CO detector.
If my CO detector reads more than 0, Im going to investigate why?
Its really not that hard.
Bubba

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:43:08 GMT, "al"
wrote:

Bubba
N.Y. S. Code section1225. Carbon Monoxide Alarm States :
The required carbon monoxide alarm shall be installed in the
immediate vicinity of the bedroom(s) on the lowest floor level of the
dwelling unit containing bedroom(s)

From: "Bubba"
Subject: CO Detected
Date: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:40 PM

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:05:55 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:

Several comments. NIOSH exposure level is 50 ppm (level at which worker

can
be exposure to continuously) so 14 is not a problem by itself. I would
move the detector around the house to see what is the source. Check the
heated air from the furnace to see if there is a leak in the plenum.

Take
the detector outside if not too cold and see what its zero level is. I
assume a gas stove will put out a small amount of CO since it vents into

the
house.


You know, Im almost shocked by some of the comments Im seeing posted
in here about CO. Im just going to assume that there is much unknown
advice to the average homeowner about CO?
You would have to be absolutely NUTS to knowingly expose yourself to
50ppm of CO continuously! Even 14PPM! Below is a level that may be
safe (009 PPM) but I still wouldnt knowingly expose myself to that or
any other level

ASHRAE 62-89 (American Society of Heating, Refrigeration and Air
Conditioning Engineers)
009 PPM The maximum allowable concentration for continuous (24 hr)
exposure. ASHRAE states the ventilation air shall meet the out door
air standard referenced to EPA and 9 PPM.

You also, for the most part, cannot use a household CO detector to
detect a CO leak in a furnace plenum. The amount of air from the
blower in the furnace dilutes the CO so much that it takes a long time
and/or large concentration for your detector to register the CO.
Your assumption of a gas stove putting out CO is incorrect also. If it
is putting out CO it is burning poorly or it is causing incomplete
combustion. If it is, GET IT FIXED!
Dont rely wholy on your UL listed CO detector. Read the info. See what
kind of levels your detector alarms at. You might find it "alarming".
Bubba




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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 06:04:51 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
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al wrote:
Bubba
N.Y. S. Code section1225. Carbon Monoxide Alarm States :
The required carbon monoxide alarm shall be installed in the
immediate vicinity of the bedroom(s) on the lowest floor level of the
dwelling unit containing bedroom(s)

From: "Bubba"
Subject: CO Detected
Date: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:40 PM

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:05:55 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:

Several comments. NIOSH exposure level is 50 ppm (level at which worker

can
be exposure to continuously) so 14 is not a problem by itself. I would
move the detector around the house to see what is the source. Check the
heated air from the furnace to see if there is a leak in the plenum.

Take
the detector outside if not too cold and see what its zero level is. I
assume a gas stove will put out a small amount of CO since it vents into

the
house.


You know, Im almost shocked by some of the comments Im seeing posted
in here about CO. Im just going to assume that there is much unknown
advice to the average homeowner about CO?
You would have to be absolutely NUTS to knowingly expose yourself to
50ppm of CO continuously! Even 14PPM! Below is a level that may be
safe (009 PPM) but I still wouldnt knowingly expose myself to that or
any other level

ASHRAE 62-89 (American Society of Heating, Refrigeration and Air
Conditioning Engineers)
009 PPM The maximum allowable concentration for continuous (24 hr)
exposure. ASHRAE states the ventilation air shall meet the out door
air standard referenced to EPA and 9 PPM.

You also, for the most part, cannot use a household CO detector to
detect a CO leak in a furnace plenum. The amount of air from the
blower in the furnace dilutes the CO so much that it takes a long time
and/or large concentration for your detector to register the CO.
Your assumption of a gas stove putting out CO is incorrect also. If it
is putting out CO it is burning poorly or it is causing incomplete
combustion. If it is, GET IT FIXED!
Dont rely wholy on your UL listed CO detector. Read the info. See what
kind of levels your detector alarms at. You might find it "alarming".
Bubba





One also needs to recognize that some (if not all) consumer
CO alarms may not detect below 11 ppm. The instructions on
my Nighthawk also say that it won't display between 11 and
29 unless you punch the max level button. So normally you
wouldn't even know if the level got as high as 29 and will
never know if the level is between 0 and 10 ppm.


Well, Im glad someone is following along and understanding.
Bubba
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