I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.

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On 6/6/2021 2:15 AM, Michael Howard wrote:
I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in
bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is
good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v
and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to
the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go
out if I ark the drier plug.

Sounds like you took out a leg, Could be in the meter box.

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:25:52 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/6/2021 2:15 AM, Michael Howard wrote:
I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in
bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is
good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v
and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to
the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go
out if I ark the drier plug.

Sounds like you took out a leg, Could be in the meter box.

That seems most likely. If he took out all or most of a leg, part of the house could work. Or if he took out the neutral somehow.

If that is true, then I would think his range, oven, hot water heater, anything that ran on 240 should also not work.

It makes me wonder why it arced. Just pulling the plug should not do that unless it was running. Maybe if the plug was stuck and he pulled hard, and shorted the wires inside the outlet?

That should have blown fuses. If he really didn't blow fuses (which I highly doubt) then he burned through a wire somewhere on that circuit or in the fuse box, or meter box even.

On 6/7/2021 6:30 AM, TimR wrote:
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:25:52 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/6/2021 2:15 AM, Michael Howard wrote:
I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in
bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is
good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v
and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to
the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go
out if I ark the drier plug.

Sounds like you took out a leg, Could be in the meter box.

That seems most likely. If he took out all or most of a leg, part of the house could work. Or if he took out the neutral somehow.

If that is true, then I would think his range, oven, hot water heater, anything that ran on 240 should also not work.

It makes me wonder why it arced. Just pulling the plug should not do that unless it was running. Maybe if the plug was stuck and he pulled hard, and shorted the wires inside the outlet?

That should have blown fuses. If he really didn't blow fuses (which I highly doubt) then he burned through a wire somewhere on that circuit or in the fuse box, or meter box even.


Arc fault breaker?

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 07:03:19 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/7/2021 6:30 AM, TimR wrote:
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:25:52 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/6/2021 2:15 AM, Michael Howard wrote:
I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in
bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is
good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v
and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to
the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go
out if I ark the drier plug.

Sounds like you took out a leg, Could be in the meter box.

That seems most likely. If he took out all or most of a leg, part of the house could work. Or if he took out the neutral somehow.

If that is true, then I would think his range, oven, hot water heater, anything that ran on 240 should also not work.

It makes me wonder why it arced. Just pulling the plug should not do that unless it was running. Maybe if the plug was stuck and he pulled hard, and shorted the wires inside the outlet?

That should have blown fuses. If he really didn't blow fuses (which I highly doubt) then he burned through a wire somewhere on that circuit or in the fuse box, or meter box even.


Arc fault breaker?

It's a fuse panel

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:40:52 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 07:03:19 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/7/2021 6:30 AM, TimR wrote:
On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:25:52 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/6/2021 2:15 AM, Michael Howard wrote:
I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in
bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is
good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v
and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to
the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go
out if I ark the drier plug.

Sounds like you took out a leg, Could be in the meter box.

That seems most likely. If he took out all or most of a leg, part of the house could work. Or if he took out the neutral somehow.

If that is true, then I would think his range, oven, hot water heater, anything that ran on 240 should also not work.

It makes me wonder why it arced. Just pulling the plug should not do that unless it was running. Maybe if the plug was stuck and he pulled hard, and shorted the wires inside the outlet?

That should have blown fuses. If he really didn't blow fuses (which I highly doubt) then he burned through a wire somewhere on that circuit or in the fuse box, or meter box even.


Arc fault breaker?
It's a fuse panel

Arc fault fuse? ;-)

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 1:15:08 AM UTC-5, Michael Howard wrote:
I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good.. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.

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I wonder if you're getting some sort of back feed. Each line to neutral should read 120v or so. Line to line should be 240v or so. Did you take the fuses out to check them? Check the voltage as far up the line as you feel comfortable while the fuses are out. Check the fuses individually before you put them back.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 06:15:02 +0000, Michael Howard
wrote:

I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.

Is this a split bus panel? (round Edison fuses and pull outs)
If so you probably blew the 60a(?) fuse for one leg going to the round
fuse panelboard. It is usually the one right above the round Edison
fuses.

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 9:40:19 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 06:15:02 +0000, Michael Howard
wrote:

I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.
Is this a split bus panel? (round Edison fuses and pull outs)
If so you probably blew the 60a(?) fuse for one leg going to the round
fuse panelboard. It is usually the one right above the round Edison
fuses.

Makes sense.

When I was 9 we blew that kind of fuse plugging in Christmas lights. Neither me (obviously) or my Dad knew there were more fuses in the panel than the round screw in ones.

But what happens when he replaces that fuse? We get an arc at the panel instead of behind the dryer? I'd kind of want to know what made that fuse blow before I put the new fuse in with my fingers.

On 6/7/2021 8:58 AM, TimR wrote:
On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 9:40:19 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 06:15:02 +0000, Michael Howard
wrote:

I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.
Is this a split bus panel? (round Edison fuses and pull outs)
If so you probably blew the 60a(?) fuse for one leg going to the round
fuse panelboard. It is usually the one right above the round Edison
fuses.

Makes sense.

When I was 9 we blew that kind of fuse plugging in Christmas lights. Neither me (obviously) or my Dad knew there were more fuses in the panel than the round screw in ones.

But what happens when he replaces that fuse? We get an arc at the panel instead of behind the dryer? I'd kind of want to know what made that fuse blow before I put the new fuse in with my fingers.


Turn off the main switch before you touch it.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 11:41:15 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 6/7/2021 8:58 AM, TimR wrote:
On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 9:40:19 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 06:15:02 +0000, Michael Howard
wrote:

I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.
Is this a split bus panel? (round Edison fuses and pull outs)
If so you probably blew the 60a(?) fuse for one leg going to the round
fuse panelboard. It is usually the one right above the round Edison
fuses.

Makes sense.

When I was 9 we blew that kind of fuse plugging in Christmas lights. Neither me (obviously) or my Dad knew there were more fuses in the panel than the round screw in ones.

But what happens when he replaces that fuse? We get an arc at the panel instead of behind the dryer? I'd kind of want to know what made that fuse blow before I put the new fuse in with my fingers.


Turn off the main switch before you touch it.

In a split bus panel each of those pullouts IS a "main switch" (AKA
Service disconnect). You can have up to 6 and all are sourced from the
service. There is no "main disconnect".
They have been trying to chip away at that 6 disconnect rule for a
number of cycles but it is still there.

In article ,
says...

Turn off the main switch before you touch it.

In a split bus panel each of those pullouts IS a "main switch" (AKA
Service disconnect). You can have up to 6 and all are sourced from the
service. There is no "main disconnect".
They have been trying to chip away at that 6 disconnect rule for a
number of cycles but it is still there.



All depends on the code when and where a house was built.

The first house I lived in had a fuse box and there were two 60 amp
fuses in a holder. You pulled the holder out, and while I would not do
it, you can put it back in upside down to keep the hole plugged up but
the power off. I don't recall the mumber of fuses, but maybe 4 or 5
down each side and they were the kind that the sockets were keyed so you
could only screw in the same amp rating of the fuse that was already in
it.

On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 06:15:02 +0000, Michael Howard posted for all of us to
digest...


I was taking off drier plug and it sparked real bad. Light's went out in bathroom right beside it and dinner room and kitchen. Rest of house is good. It has fuse panel. Check the fuses and they are good have a 250v and a 30v in .check all round fuses and they are good. Still no power to the bathroom or kitchen. What will make
bathroom and kitchen lights go out if I ark the drier plug.

Why were you pulling the plug? Where you having problems? Could the receptacle
touched the box? Clear the fault before following the other posters
suggestions. (Which are excellent) Please repost with your results.

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Tekkie