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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
Hello all,
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Im trying to find the cost of labor for building a shed. An elderly friend of mine who doesnt use the Internet asked me the question.. She wanted to get a few estimates but nobody has bothered to come by. She is thinking of a simple shed that she will store some household items. She doesnt want to buy a pre-fabricated shed kit from like of Home Depot. Unfinished walls, sloping roof with sheet metal corrugated. Were talking about experienced carpenter or handyman hours here. Thanks! Deguza |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
Deguza wrote
Hello all, all hanged himself, got too many unanswerable querys. How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Depends on how competent you are, the detail of the shed design and what it sits on. Im trying to find the cost of labor for building a shed. An elderly friend of mine who doesnt use the Internet asked me the question. She wanted to get a few estimates but nobody has bothered to come by. She is thinking of a simple shed that she will store some household items. She doesnt want to buy a pre-fabricated shed kit from like of Home Depot. Why not ? Unfinished walls, sloping roof with sheet metal corrugated. Were talking about experienced carpenter or handyman hours here. See above. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:56:11 -0700 (PDT), Deguza
wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? I’m trying to find the cost of labor for building a shed. An elderly friend of mine who doesn’t use the Internet asked me the question. She wanted to get a few estimates but nobody has bothered to come by. She is thinking of a simple shed that she will store some household items. She doesn’t want to buy a pre-fabricated shed kit from like of Home Depot. Unfinished walls, sloping roof with sheet metal corrugated. We’re talking about experienced carpenter or handyman hours here. Thanks! Deguza Labour : 1. Digging out and prepping/laying a decent base ? .. a very important step which could involve a lot of man-hours ! .. think about it - rocks, tree roots, etc 1 - 2 days hard labour - maybe not for a carpenter 2. carpentry hours ? rough guess 2 days. Not labour : 2. Building permit ? in my area 10 x 12 requires it . 3. Flooring ? pressure treated 5/4 is my preferred. cheaper choices will rot out in 10 years. 4. Metal roof ? if you say so. 5. don't forget to have some ventilation - screened against bugs. I'm happy with my circa 1998 9 x 12 salt box. - copied from my local builder's demo's with a few minor changes - I just walked in with my tape measure and clipboard and drew-up a plan. Double-checked my material list and ordered the lumber next day. PT 4x4 base and PT 2x4 sill ; 2x4 econo-stud framed ; board & batten siding rough pine on sale planed 1 side 5/4 PT floor - a splurge - no regrets ; asphalt shingles ; ~ $ 700. materials. ~ triple that today ? ... a labour of love ie: no cost ! Shingles are still OK ! ... buying cheapo shingles for a garden shed doesn't add up in the long run. John T. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:56:11 -0700 (PDT), Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? I'm trying to find the cost of labor for building a shed. An elderly friend of mine who doesn't use the Internet asked me the question. She wanted to get a few estimates but nobody has bothered to come by. She is thinking of a simple shed that she will store some household items. She doesn't want to buy a pre-fabricated shed kit from like of Home Depot. Unfinished walls, sloping roof with sheet metal corrugated. We're talking about experienced carpenter or handyman hours here. Labour : 1. Digging out and prepping/laying a decent base ? .. a very important step which could involve a lot of man-hours ! .. think about it - rocks, tree roots, etc 1 - 2 days hard labour Nothing like that for a competent person. - maybe not for a carpenter 2. carpentry hours ? rough guess 2 days. Nothing like that for a competent person. Not labour : 2. Building permit ? in my area 10 x 12 requires it . 3. Flooring ? pressure treated 5/4 is my preferred. cheaper choices will rot out in 10 years. Not needed with a concrete base. 4. Metal roof ? if you say so. 5. don't forget to have some ventilation - screened against bugs. Never bothered with any small shed like that. I'm happy with my circa 1998 9 x 12 salt box. - copied from my local builder's demo's with a few minor changes - I just walked in with my tape measure and clipboard and drew-up a plan. Double-checked my material list and ordered the lumber next day. PT 4x4 base and PT 2x4 sill ; 2x4 econo-stud framed ; board & batten siding rough pine on sale planed 1 side 5/4 PT floor - a splurge - no regrets ; asphalt shingles ; ~ $ 700. materials. ~ triple that today ? Nothing like that for a decent shed today. ... a labour of love ie: no cost ! Shingles are still OK ! ... buying cheapo shingles for a garden shed doesn't add up in the long run. Makes no sense to have shingles with a garden shed. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote:
Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:12:53 PM UTC-7, gfre...wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski e... wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg 10 x 12 does not require a permit in Santa Cruz CA. Deguza |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 8:23:19 PM UTC-7, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article 9a255b68-2fe8-4a43...@, degu... says... ello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? I?m trying to find the cost of labor for building a shed. An elderly friend of mine who doesn?t use the Internet asked me the question. She wanted to get a few estimates but nobody has bothered to come by. She is thinking of a simple shed that she will store some household items. She doesn?t want to buy a pre-fabricated shed kit from like of Home Depot. Unfinished walls, sloping roof with sheet metal corrugated. We?re talking about experienced carpenter or handyman hours here. The way lumber has gone up in the last year it is going to cost a lot not counting the labor. We are estimating materials to be around $700. Lumber is sold here at a deep discount (usually around 70% off) if it is "damaged". For a project like this, damaged lumber is perfectly OK, Deguza |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 7:14:28 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. That's what I would do, but when she had another prefab one installed at a different home a few years ago, she said she had all sorts of problems. At her age she could not handle the additional calls, returns, asking for the installer to come out again, etc. She says she would rather pay extra and have no had ache. Deguza |
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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/22/2021 10:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many.Â* See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor.Â* I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs.Â* They are not interested. Â*They cannot compete with the specialists. Next door neighbor did the same thing with Amish built shed even though he could have done it himself. Same for friend's hunting camp. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:14:28 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. That was my thought too. Just buy one that's already built. You get to see what it looks like and if you like it as opposed to seeing how a custom one turns out. Likely less expensive too, being massed produced. Not sure about the kit ones, but wonder why that's not an option. Seems like going the custom route for a simple shed is doing it the hard, expensive way to me, unless there is some specific requirement, eg style has to match something, that you can't get already built. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 1:57:14 AM UTC-4, Deguza wrote:
On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 7:14:28 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. That's what I would do, but when she had another prefab one installed at a different home a few years ago, she said she had all sorts of problems. At her age she could not handle the additional calls, returns, asking for the installer to come out again, etc. She says she would rather pay extra and have no had ache. Deguza I hope she realizes there are no guarantees of no problems with the construction metohd either. At least with one that is already built, you can see it, check it out, satisfy yourself that it's what you want. When it arrives, you can do the same and if it's not OK, you tell them. With any construction project, it's much different and probably harder to correct, depending on when you tell them it's not right. The contractor isn't going to want to spend another day undoing what he just did.... |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/23/2021 12:11 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/23/2021 10:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says... I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. The permits vary from state to state and even town to town in some areas. Where I am at in NC out in the country you need a permit for a building that is over 10 feet by 12 or could be 15 feet, forgot which. Anything smaller they just drop it off if prebuilt. Larger needs inspections and anchored down. Friend in another county had to pay over 200 for a permit for a prebuilt 12 x 24 buiding. I just put in a carport type metal garage that was 24 by 26 feet and cement pad and all. Cost for the permit in my county was 65 dollars and the inspector had to come out several times for various stages such as the footing, final pad pouring, building its self. County laws vary widely. Our swim club got stung when they widened the pool by two lanes without a permit. Who would know that is needed? I had a problem when I got a new deck requiring permits to demolish the old deck and one to build a new one. This is only required in our county. Then the g d tax assessor added to my property tax even though the same size deck. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/23/2021 10:21 AM, Frank wrote:
On 5/23/2021 10:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... I bought it in CT.Â* I did need a permit but it was simple.Â* I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL.Â* I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. The permits vary from state to state and even town to town in some areas.Â* Where I am at in NC out in the country you need a permit for a building that is over 10 feet by 12 or could be 15 feet, forgot which. Anything smaller they just drop it off if prebuilt.Â* Larger needs inspections and anchored down.Â* Friend in another county had to pay over 200 for a permit for a prebuilt 12 x 24 buiding. I just put in a carport type metal garage that was 24 by 26 feet and cement pad and all.Â* Cost for the permit in my county was 65 dollars and the inspector had to come out several times for various stages such as the footing, final pad pouring, building its self. County laws vary widely.Â* Our swim club got stung when they widened the pool by two lanes without a permit.Â* Who would know that is needed? I had a problem when I got a new deck requiring permits to demolish the old deck and one to build a new one.Â* This is only required in our county.Â* Then the g d tax assessor added to my property tax even though the same size deck. Just checking my county, permit required for shed over 200 sq ft. Building Permits Required For: New Homes Additions Porches (open or enclosed) Decks Patio and decorative hardscaping greater than 30 inches in height Garages Sheds (over 200 square feet) Swimming Pools (above ground and in-ground) Fireplaces (masonry or factory-built) Altering existing spaces or rooms (including basement area) Dormers Structural repairs or alterations Re-roofing that involves 25% or more replacement of sheathing PV Solar Panels (ground-mounted) Water-heating Solar Panels €“ requires a utility permit |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:39:33 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
On 5/23/2021 10:21 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/23/2021 10:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... I bought it in CT.* I did need a permit but it was simple.* I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL.* I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. The permits vary from state to state and even town to town in some areas.* Where I am at in NC out in the country you need a permit for a building that is over 10 feet by 12 or could be 15 feet, forgot which. Anything smaller they just drop it off if prebuilt.* Larger needs inspections and anchored down.* Friend in another county had to pay over 200 for a permit for a prebuilt 12 x 24 buiding. I just put in a carport type metal garage that was 24 by 26 feet and cement pad and all.* Cost for the permit in my county was 65 dollars and the inspector had to come out several times for various stages such as the footing, final pad pouring, building its self. County laws vary widely.* Our swim club got stung when they widened the pool by two lanes without a permit.* Who would know that is needed? I had a problem when I got a new deck requiring permits to demolish the old deck and one to build a new one.* This is only required in our county.* Then the g d tax assessor added to my property tax even though the same size deck. Just checking my county, permit required for shed over 200 sq ft. Over 108 sq. ft. in my town - and that's common here-abouts. 200 sq. ft. allows for a nice useful size eg. 12 x 16 John T. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/23/2021 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:39:33 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: On 5/23/2021 10:21 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/23/2021 10:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... I bought it in CT.Â* I did need a permit but it was simple.Â* I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL.Â* I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. The permits vary from state to state and even town to town in some areas.Â* Where I am at in NC out in the country you need a permit for a building that is over 10 feet by 12 or could be 15 feet, forgot which. Anything smaller they just drop it off if prebuilt.Â* Larger needs inspections and anchored down.Â* Friend in another county had to pay over 200 for a permit for a prebuilt 12 x 24 buiding. I just put in a carport type metal garage that was 24 by 26 feet and cement pad and all.Â* Cost for the permit in my county was 65 dollars and the inspector had to come out several times for various stages such as the footing, final pad pouring, building its self. County laws vary widely.Â* Our swim club got stung when they widened the pool by two lanes without a permit.Â* Who would know that is needed? I had a problem when I got a new deck requiring permits to demolish the old deck and one to build a new one.Â* This is only required in our county.Â* Then the g d tax assessor added to my property tax even though the same size deck. Just checking my county, permit required for shed over 200 sq ft. Over 108 sq. ft. in my town - and that's common here-abouts. 200 sq. ft. allows for a nice useful size eg. 12 x 16 John T. I did a small one years ago from Sears assembled from aluminum. Only check at the time was required distance from property line. These rules do change with time. With neighbors selling houses I found that I probably have a couple minor violations. Stupid stuff like putting AC condensate into the French Drain. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
"Frank" "frank wrote in message ... On 5/23/2021 10:21 AM, Frank wrote: On 5/23/2021 10:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. The permits vary from state to state and even town to town in some areas. Where I am at in NC out in the country you need a permit for a building that is over 10 feet by 12 or could be 15 feet, forgot which. Anything smaller they just drop it off if prebuilt. Larger needs inspections and anchored down. Friend in another county had to pay over 200 for a permit for a prebuilt 12 x 24 buiding. I just put in a carport type metal garage that was 24 by 26 feet and cement pad and all. Cost for the permit in my county was 65 dollars and the inspector had to come out several times for various stages such as the footing, final pad pouring, building its self. County laws vary widely. Our swim club got stung when they widened the pool by two lanes without a permit. Who would know that is needed? I had a problem when I got a new deck requiring permits to demolish the old deck and one to build a new one. This is only required in our county. Then the g d tax assessor added to my property tax even though the same size deck. Just checking my county, permit required for shed over 200 sq ft. Building Permits Required For: New Homes Additions Porches (open or enclosed) Decks Patio and decorative hardscaping greater than 30 inches in height Garages Sheds (over 200 square feet) Swimming Pools (above ground and in-ground) Fireplaces (masonry or factory-built) Altering existing spaces or rooms (including basement area) Dormers Structural repairs or alterations Re-roofing that involves 25% or more replacement of sheathing PV Solar Panels (ground-mounted) Water-heating Solar Panels €“ requires a utility permit So much for the land of the free. The land of the mindlessly nanny stated, actually. |
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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:03:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/23/2021 12:11 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. OK I was curious because you usually need engineering to pull a shed permit in Florida. They have the same regulation for sheds as they do for houses. (wind code, tie downs etc). It actually applies to any structure, even a dog house if they want to be pricks about it. (or your neighbor calls) The ones you get pre fab come with the engineering sheets. The county usually has engineered plans on their web site too. Lee County has one type for block and one for stick built in a few sizes. https://www.leegov.com/dcd/BldPermit...sProcd/shedreq |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:53 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg Nice shed gfretwell. A wider door would be nice. Nice shed. How long timewise? That to me is a full summer. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/23/2021 11:36 AM, Frank wrote:
Just checking my county, permit required for shed over 200 sq ft. OverÂ* 108 sq. ft. in my townÂ* -Â* and that's common here-abouts. 200 sq. ft.Â* allows for a nice useful sizeÂ* eg.Â* 12 x 16 Â*Â* John T. I did a small one years ago from Sears assembled from aluminum.Â* Only check at the time was required distance from property line. These rules do change with time.Â* With neighbors selling houses I found that I probably have a couple minor violations.Â* Stupid stuff like putting AC condensate into the French Drain. The French will be ****ed if they find out what you did to their drain. I had a couple little things in my house the inspector never mentioned. One was an electric line on the bottom of joists instead of through drilled holes. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 05/22/2021 11:57 PM, Deguza wrote:
That's what I would do, but when she had another prefab one installed at a different home a few years ago, she said she had all sorts of problems. At her age she could not handle the additional calls, returns, asking for the installer to come out again, etc. She says she would rather pay extra and have no had ache. She'd better have Handyman Joe on speed dial too. I'm not saying there aren't local people capable of building a shed out of sticks but I've seen some real abortions too. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 10:21:41 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 5/23/2021 10:14 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. The permits vary from state to state and even town to town in some areas. Where I am at in NC out in the country you need a permit for a building that is over 10 feet by 12 or could be 15 feet, forgot which. Anything smaller they just drop it off if prebuilt. Larger needs inspections and anchored down. Friend in another county had to pay over 200 for a permit for a prebuilt 12 x 24 buiding. I just put in a carport type metal garage that was 24 by 26 feet and cement pad and all. Cost for the permit in my county was 65 dollars and the inspector had to come out several times for various stages such as the footing, final pad pouring, building its self. County laws vary widely. Our swim club got stung when they widened the pool by two lanes without a permit. Who would know that is needed? The company that did the work? I would expect you'd need one for that many places today, like here in NJ. I had a problem when I got a new deck requiring permits to demolish the old deck and one to build a new one. This is only required in our county. Then the g d tax assessor added to my property tax even though the same size deck. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On 5/23/2021 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:03:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/23/2021 12:11 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. OK I was curious because you usually need engineering to pull a shed permit in Florida. They have the same regulation for sheds as they do for houses. (wind code, tie downs etc). It actually applies to any structure, even a dog house if they want to be pricks about it. (or your neighbor calls) The ones you get pre fab come with the engineering sheets. The county usually has engineered plans on their web site too. Lee County has one type for block and one for stick built in a few sizes. https://www.leegov.com/dcd/BldPermit...sProcd/shedreq Makes sense here. I can see them becoming airborne in a storm. |
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On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:59:01 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Labour : 1. Digging out and prepping/laying a decent base ? .. a very important step which could involve a lot of man-hours ! .. think about it - rocks, tree roots, etc 1 - 2 days hard labour Nothing like that for a competent person. In auto-contradicting mode again, senile pest? - maybe not for a carpenter 2. carpentry hours ? rough guess 2 days. Nothing like that for a competent person. In auto-contradicting mode again, senile pest? Not labour : 2. Building permit ? in my area 10 x 12 requires it . 3. Flooring ? pressure treated 5/4 is my preferred. cheaper choices will rot out in 10 years. Not needed with a concrete base. In auto-contradicting mode again, senile pest? 4. Metal roof ? if you say so. 5. don't forget to have some ventilation - screened against bugs. Never bothered with any small shed like that. In auto-contradicting mode again, senile pest? I'm happy with my circa 1998 9 x 12 salt box. - copied from my local builder's demo's with a few minor changes - I just walked in with my tape measure and clipboard and drew-up a plan. Double-checked my material list and ordered the lumber next day. PT 4x4 base and PT 2x4 sill ; 2x4 econo-stud framed ; board & batten siding rough pine on sale planed 1 side 5/4 PT floor - a splurge - no regrets ; asphalt shingles ; ~ $ 700. materials. ~ triple that today ? Nothing like that for a decent shed today. In auto-contradicting mode again, senile pest? ... a labour of love ie: no cost ! Shingles are still OK ! ... buying cheapo shingles for a garden shed doesn't add up in the long run. Makes no sense to have shingles with a garden shed. In auto-contradicting mode again, senile pest? -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:30:10 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: That's what I would do, but when she had another prefab one installed at a different home a few years ago, she said she had all sorts of problems. At her age she could not handle the additional calls, returns, asking for the installer to come out again, etc. She says she would rather pay extra and have no had ache. She'd better have Handyman Joe on speed dial too. I'm not saying there aren't local people capable of building a shed out of sticks but I've seen some real abortions too. No, you haven't, otherwise you'd have been telling everyone about it already, senile blabbermouth! BG |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:36:14 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
... I did a small one years ago from Sears assembled from aluminum. Only check at the time was required distance from property line. These rules do change with time. With neighbors selling houses I found that I probably have a couple minor violations. Stupid stuff like putting AC condensate into the French Drain. Why would AC condensate into a french drain be a problem, any more than dumping it on the ground? It's your drain, I would guess (never heard of a community french drain). |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 18:24:31 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
On 5/23/2021 3:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:36:14 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: ... I did a small one years ago from Sears assembled from aluminum. Only check at the time was required distance from property line. These rules do change with time. With neighbors selling houses I found that I probably have a couple minor violations. Stupid stuff like putting AC condensate into the French Drain. Why would AC condensate into a french drain be a problem, any more than dumping it on the ground? It's your drain, I would guess (never heard of a community french drain). It is collective, bureaucratic thinking that leads to rules like this. I had a new well dug two years ago and the current rule required the well head to extend a foot above the ground. My old well was maybe 2 inches. The new rule was to prevent ground storm water from entering the well. If you saw my yard you would know that is impossible but does not matter. Rules are rules. I have it covered with a fake rock. A friend was forced to connect to town water, then cap his well. He couldn't even use it for irrigation. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
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How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sat, 22 May 2021 23:23:10 -0400, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , says... ello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? I?m trying to find the cost of labor for building a shed. An elderly friend of mine who doesn?t use the Internet asked me the question. She wanted to get a few estimates but nobody has bothered to come by. She is thinking of a simple shed that she will store some household items. She doesn?t want to buy a pre-fabricated shed kit from like of Home Depot. Unfinished walls, sloping roof with sheet metal corrugated. We?re talking about experienced carpenter or handyman hours here. The way lumber has gone up in the last year it is going to cost a lot not counting the labor. I'd be waiting a year for the prices to drop or get a factory built shed (either metal or resin) |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:13:39 -0700 (PDT), Thomas
wrote: On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:53 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg Nice shed gfretwell. A wider door would be nice. Nice shed. How long timewise? That to me is a full summer. End to end it was a few weeks for each part. A lot of that time was just watching concrete cure ;-) There are actually 2 sheds there with a block wall between them. I built the first one and by the time I was done I was sorry I didn't make it bigger. My wife called me and asked if I was ready for some concrete. She had a yard or two left over. By the time the truck got there I had the pad area leveled and the Latinos her concrete guy brought dug out the footers. I dropped the steel in and they dumped in the concrete. That was about 15-20 minutes. The doors were free so I used them. They are steel fire doors so they are pretty tough. I put the pavers on later. The 2 shed idea is actually handy because one I keep locked, the other is unlocked. Both are dry tho. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:41:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/23/2021 12:40 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2021 10:03:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/23/2021 12:11 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 May 2021 22:14:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 5/22/2021 7:56 PM, Deguza wrote: Hello all, How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed? Deguza Too many. See hubpops post outlining some of the steps. I'm fully capable of building one but instead bought a pre-fab 10 x 16 built by the Amish, sold by a local distributor. I did have to put some stone down and level it where it was to be dropped. The guy drops it in place, ties it down and you are set to go and at a reasonable price. There is a reason she did not get call backs. They are not interested. They cannot compete with the specialists. Did you get a permit? In Florida you need the same engineering for a shed as you do for a house. I am guessing your guys had a mastered plan that was approved by the AHJ. My shed is block, covered with pavers with dowelled cells and a poured tie beam that has the truss straps in the concrete. I managed to scrounge up most of the materials for free so it was only my time. I am not a very fast mason ;-) http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg I bought it in CT. I did need a permit but it was simple. I just drew a box on the plot plan and showed it was X feet from the boundary line, paid $20. No shed in FL. I now longer have a snow blower to store and pay to have my lawn cut. OK I was curious because you usually need engineering to pull a shed permit in Florida. They have the same regulation for sheds as they do for houses. (wind code, tie downs etc). It actually applies to any structure, even a dog house if they want to be pricks about it. (or your neighbor calls) The ones you get pre fab come with the engineering sheets. The county usually has engineered plans on their web site too. Lee County has one type for block and one for stick built in a few sizes. https://www.leegov.com/dcd/BldPermit...sProcd/shedreq Makes sense here. I can see them becoming airborne in a storm. That is the issue. They don't care so much that your shed gets destroyed, they just don't want it in your neighbor's living room. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 18:24:31 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
On 5/23/2021 3:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:36:14 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: ... I did a small one years ago from Sears assembled from aluminum. Only check at the time was required distance from property line. These rules do change with time. With neighbors selling houses I found that I probably have a couple minor violations. Stupid stuff like putting AC condensate into the French Drain. Why would AC condensate into a french drain be a problem, any more than dumping it on the ground? It's your drain, I would guess (never heard of a community french drain). It is collective, bureaucratic thinking that leads to rules like this. I had a new well dug two years ago and the current rule required the well head to extend a foot above the ground. My old well was maybe 2 inches. The new rule was to prevent ground storm water from entering the well. If you saw my yard you would know that is impossible but does not matter. Rules are rules. I have it covered with a fake rock. They are all taller than that here. I am not sure what the code is but 16-18" seems to be the norm. |
How many hours would it take to build a simple 10 x 12 shed?
On Sun, 23 May 2021 19:48:27 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:
On 5/23/2021 7:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2021 18:24:31 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: On 5/23/2021 3:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:36:14 -0400, Frank "frank wrote: ... I did a small one years ago from Sears assembled from aluminum. Only check at the time was required distance from property line. These rules do change with time. With neighbors selling houses I found that I probably have a couple minor violations. Stupid stuff like putting AC condensate into the French Drain. Why would AC condensate into a french drain be a problem, any more than dumping it on the ground? It's your drain, I would guess (never heard of a community french drain). It is collective, bureaucratic thinking that leads to rules like this. I had a new well dug two years ago and the current rule required the well head to extend a foot above the ground. My old well was maybe 2 inches. The new rule was to prevent ground storm water from entering the well. If you saw my yard you would know that is impossible but does not matter. Rules are rules. I have it covered with a fake rock. A friend was forced to connect to town water, then cap his well. He couldn't even use it for irrigation. That is weird. I know near here when the water company put in a well and dropped the aquifer affecting nearby homeowner wells that they had to run water lines to them. When a sewer line goes past your property you have to pay for it but do not have to use it. They are going to make us hook up when it gets here. Fortunately the survey they did about river contamination said our neighborhood was of minimal concern so I might not live long enough to see it coming here. The best guess is it will be $40k-$50k by the time you pay your plumber and pay for the installation at the street, lift stations, force mains and such. They say some of that will be covered by "clean water" grants and city funds tho. It might be 5 years before they actually get the first SFR lot connected but the two trailer parks will go faster since they already have pipe in the ground to a central treatment plant and they are close to an existing force main. We are at the end of a 1 mile dead end street with nothing there yet but water, still a half mile from me. |
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