Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such trouble with reality?

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such trouble with reality?

Cindy Hamilton

It does question the value if it is only there to protect the
vaccinated. I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't call that
discrimination and selfishness.
Since it is clear there will always be 25-30% who will refuse to be
vaccinated, will we remain masked forever or at a certain point just
say "**** them"?

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath
wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower
bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game
against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan,
though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social
distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed
mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such
trouble with reality?

It does question the value if it is only there to protect the vaccinated.

It isnt.

I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't
call that discrimination and selfishness.

Who cares what those ****wits call it.

Since it is clear there will always be 25-30%
who will refuse to be vaccinated,

That's bull**** even in the USA. The DTP1
vaccination rate in the USA is actually 97%
and the DTP3 vaccination rate is actually 94%.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...tes-by-country

will we remain masked forever

Nope.

or at a certain point just say "**** them"?

At some stage enough will have been vaccinated
so that masks wont be needed. We arent there yet.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:01:04 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH troll****

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Message-ID:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:01:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath
wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower
bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game
against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan,
though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social
distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed
mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such
trouble with reality?

It does question the value if it is only there to protect the vaccinated.

It isnt.

I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't
call that discrimination and selfishness.

Who cares what those ****wits call it.

Since it is clear there will always be 25-30%
who will refuse to be vaccinated,

That's bull**** even in the USA. The DTP1
vaccination rate in the USA is actually 97%
and the DTP3 vaccination rate is actually 94%.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...tes-by-country

will we remain masked forever

Nope.

or at a certain point just say "**** them"?

At some stage enough will have been vaccinated
so that masks wont be needed. We arent there yet.

How is that if vaccination does not prevent you from getting the virus
and passing it along ... and that is just the strains we know about.
Who knows what we will be looking at in September.
My guess is they will already be working on a new vaccine by then and
we will have to start over. ... but I have already said that.

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:01:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath
wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower
bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game
against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a
plan,
though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social
distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed
mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such
trouble with reality?

It does question the value if it is only there to protect the
vaccinated.

It isnt.

I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't
call that discrimination and selfishness.

Who cares what those ****wits call it.

Since it is clear there will always be 25-30%
who will refuse to be vaccinated,

That's bull**** even in the USA. The DTP1
vaccination rate in the USA is actually 97%
and the DTP3 vaccination rate is actually 94%.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...tes-by-country

will we remain masked forever

Nope.

or at a certain point just say "**** them"?

At some stage enough will have been vaccinated
so that masks wont be needed. We arent there yet.

How is that if vaccination does not prevent
you from getting the virus and passing it along ...

That's more of your pig ignorant bull****.

and that is just the strains we know about.

Pigs arse it is.

Who knows what we will be looking at in September.
My guess is they will already be working on a new vaccine by then

Nope, just tweaking the current ones.

and we will have to start over. ...

Nope.

but I have already said that.

Yep, you actually are that pig ignorant.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 1:29:10 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:01:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath
wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower
bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game
against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan,
though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social
distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed
mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such
trouble with reality?

It does question the value if it is only there to protect the vaccinated.

It isnt.

I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't
call that discrimination and selfishness.

Who cares what those ****wits call it.

Since it is clear there will always be 25-30%
who will refuse to be vaccinated,

That's bull**** even in the USA. The DTP1
vaccination rate in the USA is actually 97%
and the DTP3 vaccination rate is actually 94%.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...tes-by-country

will we remain masked forever

Nope.

or at a certain point just say "**** them"?

At some stage enough will have been vaccinated
so that masks wont be needed. We arent there yet.
How is that if vaccination does not prevent you from getting the virus
and passing it along ... and that is just the strains we know about.

Again problems with basic facts and math. How is it that all the other
vaccines work, some even totally eradicating the disease, when none
of them are 100% effective either?


Who knows what we will be looking at in September.

I'm sure wherever we are at, you'll still be here posting BS.


My guess is they will already be working on a new vaccine by then and
we will have to start over. ... but I have already said that.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:08:16 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such trouble with reality?

Cindy Hamilton
It does question the value if it is only there to protect the
vaccinated.

It also makes the vaccinated less infectious, thus giving some protection
to the unvaccinated.

I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't call that
discrimination and selfishness.
Since it is clear there will always be 25-30% who will refuse to be
vaccinated, will we remain masked forever or at a certain point just
say "**** them"?

I'm sure the unvaccinated will unmask first, and we'll just have to
see how they do.

https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/covid-19-hospitalizations-increasing-for-unvaccinated-age-groups-data-shows/69-c53eed02-3791-4351-ae28-cbbda33cbd56

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/26/21 5:45 AM, wrote:
I'm sure the unvaccinated will unmask first, and we'll just have to
see how they do.


I don't wear a mask.Â* For metabolically healthy people, this scamdemic-19 is just a minor cold...if that.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:15:45 AM UTC-4, jimmy wrote:
On 3/26/21 5:45 AM, wrote:
I'm sure the unvaccinated will unmask first, and we'll just have to
see how they do.
I don't wear a mask. For metabolically healthy people, this scamdemic-19 is just a minor cold...if that.

I suppose you feel those with comorbidities should just get it over with
and die?

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 5:15:45 AM UTC-5, jimmy wrote:
On 3/26/21 5:45 AM, wrote:
I'm sure the unvaccinated will unmask first, and we'll just have to
see how they do.
I don't wear a mask. For metabolically healthy people, this scamdemic-19 is just a minor cold...if that.

I know someone who is metabolically healthy, below 60 years old that got it

apparently is still in icu a week later and on respiratorÂ*

Who knows if he will rebound and whenÂ*

this is not uncommon
even if it does not kill you, who would agree to contract the common cold if they could avoid it

mk5000

OSHA is approving two additional quantitative fit testing protocols for inclusion in appendix A of the Respiratory Protection Standard. These protocols a The modified
ambient aerosol condensation nuclei counter (CNC) quantitative fit testing protocol for full-facepiece and half-mask elastomeric respirators and the modified ambient aerosol CNC quantitative fit testing protocol for filtering facepiece respirators.--2019 https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...ction-standard

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 4:08:16 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such trouble with reality?

Cindy Hamilton
It does question the value if it is only there to protect the
vaccinated. I am surprised the woke crowd doesn't call that
discrimination and selfishness.
Since it is clear there will always be 25-30% who will refuse to be
vaccinated, will we remain masked forever or at a certain point just
say "**** them"?

We'll worry about that when the vaccines have reduced the infection rates
to very low levels.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, to our children who have
not been vaccinated, to the, guessing, 1%** of the population who cannot
safely be vaccinated, to our children who have not been vaccinated and
may be less (but not zero) likely to die, but if they get "long covid"
will have it for that much longer.

For some reason government officials have said they can't make a
distinction but at least private groups like stadium owners can. Maybe
because the vaccine has only emergency authorization, but eventually it
will be fully approved and maybe then even the government will keep
trouble-makers like you confined and out of range for the rest of us.


**Maybe less. I haven't heard about specific or any allergens in these
like iiuc some vaccines have, eggs, for example. And I don't know if
having a chronic serious disease

If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

If they worked as you think they should, yes. Why do you have such trouble with reality?

He's either a Russian hired to do this, he's a crackpot, or he's stupid.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2021-03-25, micky wrote:
I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

It will not encourage me. I will not take part in medical experiments.
Have you read the fine print and disclaimers? I realize there may be
some big words, but if you mouth them their meaning may come to you.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, ...

Wrong. People like YOU pushing for universal injection of experimental
vaccines that have received only minimal testing are a danger to the rest
of us. As I said, I will not take part in these medical experiments - I
will *not* be vaccinated. Not for you. Not for Joe Biden. No way, no how.

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Roger Blake wrote
micky wrote

I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

It will not encourage me.

Great, the sooner fools like you die the better.

I will not take part in medical experiments.

You have no choice on that, you do that every day.
In this case how soon you get infected.

Have you read the fine print and disclaimers?

What matters is the relative risk of
vaccination and not getting vaccinated.

I realize there may be some big words, but if you
mouth them their meaning may come to you.

Clearly doesn’t help you.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, ...

Wrong. People like YOU pushing for universal
injection of experimental vaccines

No one is doing that, we'd rather you die.

that have received only minimal testing

Another bare faced lie.

are a danger to the rest of us. As I said, I will not take part
in these medical experiments - I will *not* be vaccinated.
Not for you. Not for Joe Biden. No way, no how.

Great, sooner you die the better.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:38:41 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

It will not encourage me.

Great, the sooner fools like you die the better.

This coming from the useless senile octogenarian troll who gets up EVERY
night between 1 and 4 am in Australia just to pester on these ngs! The
sooner YOU croak, the better for EVERYONE, online AND in real life!

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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 8:03:10 PM UTC-4, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-03-25, micky wrote:
I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.
It will not encourage me. I will not take part in medical experiments.
Have you read the fine print and disclaimers? I realize there may be
some big words, but if you mouth them their meaning may come to you.

I read the EUA and I followed the results of the testing and I compared
that against 550K dead Americans. The rational choice is very obvious
and I got vaccinated as soon as I could.




People like you are a danger to the rest of us, ...

Wrong. People like YOU pushing for universal injection of experimental
vaccines that have received only minimal testing are a danger to the rest
of us. As I said, I will not take part in these medical experiments - I
will *not* be vaccinated. Not for you. Not for Joe Biden. No way, no how.

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:55:10 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, to our children who have
not been vaccinated, to the, guessing, 1%** of the population who cannot
safely be vaccinated, to our children who have not been vaccinated and
may be less (but not zero) likely to die, but if they get "long covid"
will have it for that much longer.

For some reason government officials have said they can't make a
distinction but at least private groups like stadium owners can. Maybe
because the vaccine has only emergency authorization, but eventually it
will be fully approved and maybe then even the government will keep
trouble-makers like you confined and out of range for the rest of us.

The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated you have all the
protection you will get. It still does not stop you from infecting
others so maybe they need to keep you away.

I already posted this but so far they have already found 89 post
vaccination infections in Minnesota and those are just the ones they
know about.
It was on NBC tonight but I didn't steal their video.
This is where they got it (ABC and NBC are the same here)
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/min...nated/6053179/

wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:55:10 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath
wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower
bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game
against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a
plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social
distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, to our children who have
not been vaccinated, to the, guessing, 1%** of the population who cannot
safely be vaccinated, to our children who have not been vaccinated and
may be less (but not zero) likely to die, but if they get "long covid"
will have it for that much longer.

For some reason government officials have said they can't make a
distinction but at least private groups like stadium owners can. Maybe
because the vaccine has only emergency authorization, but eventually it
will be fully approved and maybe then even the government will keep
trouble-makers like you confined and out of range for the rest of us.

The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated
you have all the protection you will get.

Wrong, you are free to add other protection like avoiding
situations where aerosols are a problem, wear a decent
mask and avoid hugging others etc etc etc.

It still does not stop you from infecting others

More mindless bull**** when the vaccination
stops you getting infected.

so maybe they need to keep you away.

Nope.

I already posted this but so far they have already
found 89 post vaccination infections in Minnesota
and those are just the ones they know about.

You have no ****ing idea how soon that
happened relative to the vaccination.

It was on NBC tonight but I didn't steal their video.
This is where they got it (ABC and NBC are the same here)
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/min...nated/6053179/

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 01:08:59 -0400, wrote:

I already posted this but so far they have already found 89 post
vaccination infections in Minnesota and those are just the ones they
know about.

It's not clear to me what you're getting at. NPR says 130 million doses
have been administered, with 46 million people being fully vaccinated. With
that in mind, you seem to think it's significant that 89 people still got
infected after being vaccinated.

The very first sentence of your linked article says "Health officials
report dozens of fully-vaccinated people have contracted COVID-19 in
Minnesota, a development that wasn’t unexpected." What part of "a
development that wasn't unexpected" is confusing you? Did someone tell you
that any of the vaccines would be 100% effective? No, I don't think they
did.

Did any of those 89 people end up in the ICU? How many of them died as a
result of getting infected? What percentage of 46 million is 89? Maybe
those are some of the questions you should be asking. Not "why are masks
still being recommended." This stuff really isn't that hard.

It was on NBC tonight but I didn't steal their video.
This is where they got it (ABC and NBC are the same here)
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/min...nated/6053179/

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 01:38:58 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 01:08:59 -0400, wrote:

I already posted this but so far they have already found 89 post
vaccination infections in Minnesota and those are just the ones they
know about.

It's not clear to me what you're getting at. NPR says 130 million doses
have been administered, with 46 million people being fully vaccinated. With
that in mind, you seem to think it's significant that 89 people still got
infected after being vaccinated.

The very first sentence of your linked article says "Health officials
report dozens of fully-vaccinated people have contracted COVID-19 in
Minnesota, a development that wasnt unexpected." What part of "a
development that wasn't unexpected" is confusing you? Did someone tell you
that any of the vaccines would be 100% effective? No, I don't think they
did.

Did any of those 89 people end up in the ICU? How many of them died as a
result of getting infected? What percentage of 46 million is 89? Maybe
those are some of the questions you should be asking. Not "why are masks
still being recommended." This stuff really isn't that hard.


To start with 89 people might just be the tip of the iceberg since we
don't know how many people got infected and didn't go to the doctor.
This was also one fairly small state.

It does point out why this vaccine is far from the panacea we were
hoping for and why we will still be told to wear masks well into 2022
or even 23.
The vaccine may help you from getting really sick, we are still
waiting to see how well that works but it is clear it doesn't keep you
from being infected or infecting others.
We also don't know how long it will be until a variant overwhelms the
current vaccines. As long as it is still replicating in vaccinated
people, it is still learning. The vaccine might actually promote
stronger variants since it keeps the host alive but it doesn't kill
the virus in a significant number of people. If you believe the
projection 5% (16 million people) might be the breeding ground for
stronger variants of this virus.
I have been saying all along, be prepared for your annual or maybe
even semi annual booster.
Whether that was in the original vaccine design will be argued by
those people who see a big business conspiracy in everything. They
tend to be more on the left in a Michael Moore sort of way.
I did point out, these folks did not build a huge mRNA infrastructure
for a one time deal.
Billions maybe trillions will be made on this boondoggle and it won't
be trickling down to you and me ... unless you bought shares in the
companies.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 01:08:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:55:10 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, to our children who have
not been vaccinated, to the, guessing, 1%** of the population who cannot
safely be vaccinated, to our children who have not been vaccinated and
may be less (but not zero) likely to die, but if they get "long covid"
will have it for that much longer.

For some reason government officials have said they can't make a
distinction but at least private groups like stadium owners can. Maybe
because the vaccine has only emergency authorization, but eventually it
will be fully approved and maybe then even the government will keep
trouble-makers like you confined and out of range for the rest of us.

The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated you have all the
protection you will get. It still does not stop you from infecting
others

You keep saying that but it hasn't been determined yet. The odds are
high that it does.

Read this and maybe it will help you see why your objection is way
overstated:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ine-protection

"When a person is infected – or inoculated with a vaccine – the immune
system gears up to produce antibodies that specifically target the
virus. Over time, those antibodies naturally wane. But the immune system
still holds a memory of the virus, and if it ever shows up again, cells
spring into action and start to gear up a new batch of antibodies.
However, that process can take three to five days.

In the meantime, a virus can potentially start to replicate in the body.

"It's a bit of a race between the immune system and the virus," says Dr.
Michel Nussenzweig, a Howard Hughes Medical Institute investigator at
the Rockefeller University.

If the immune response kicks in quickly, little virus would be produced.
Your ability to spread disease "is really a function of how much virus
you're producing," Nussenzweig says.

It seems likely a person's immune system will win that arms race, but
scientists don't have the data yet to say that with confidence. That's
why people who have been vaccinated are still supposed to wear a mask
and take other precautions – until that gets sorted out."


so maybe they need to keep you away.

I already posted this but so far they have already found 89 post
vaccination infections in Minnesota and those are just the ones they
know about.

Those are irrelevant to what I said. That's a new variant and they said
in advance the vaccine might not stop that.

Whatever the problems a vaccinated person causes to other people, an
unvaccinated person causes 100 times more. Everythink I said to the
first guy is still true.

It was on NBC tonight but I didn't steal their video.
This is where they got it (ABC and NBC are the same here)
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/min...nated/6053179/

I read the link.

Like I said, it's irrelevant to this thread. It's probably irrelevant
wherever you bring it up but this is the first place I've seen it.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 06:00:37 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 01:08:59 -0400,
wrote:
ed and out of range for the rest of us.

The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated you have all the
protection you will get. It still does not stop you from infecting
others

You keep saying that but it hasn't been determined yet. The odds are
high that it does.

Read this and maybe it will help you see why your objection is way
overstated:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ine-protection

"When a person is infected €“ or inoculated with a vaccine €“ the immune
system gears up to produce antibodies that specifically target the
virus. Over time, those antibodies naturally wane. But the immune system
still holds a memory of the virus, and if it ever shows up again, cells
spring into action and start to gear up a new batch of antibodies.
However, that process can take three to five days.

In the meantime, a virus can potentially start to replicate in the body.

If the virus is replicating in a vaccinated person who will not die,
that is the perfect breeding ground for a variant that is immune to
the vaccine.
One of the strongest responses to killing off a virus is if all the
hosts die.
That is why we kill whole herds of livestock when a few get sick.
That is not an acceptable answer with humans but it is the solution
that has worked many times.
If the vaccine is not killing the virus, it is promoting it's
mutation.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 1:09:27 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:55:10 -0400, micky
wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:46:18 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:18:02 PM UTC-4, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games..

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


I'm glad to hear it. It will enourage the others to get vaccinated.

People like you are a danger to the rest of us, to our children who have
not been vaccinated, to the, guessing, 1%** of the population who cannot
safely be vaccinated, to our children who have not been vaccinated and
may be less (but not zero) likely to die, but if they get "long covid"
will have it for that much longer.

For some reason government officials have said they can't make a
distinction but at least private groups like stadium owners can. Maybe
because the vaccine has only emergency authorization, but eventually it
will be fully approved and maybe then even the government will keep
trouble-makers like you confined and out of range for the rest of us.
The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated you have all the
protection you will get. It still does not stop you from infecting
others so maybe they need to keep you away.

There you go again, spreading more BS, even though it's been explained
to you here many times now that this is not true.



I already posted this but so far they have already found 89 post
vaccination infections in Minnesota and those are just the ones they
know about.
It was on NBC tonight but I didn't steal their video.
This is where they got it (ABC and NBC are the same here)
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/min...nated/6053179/

What's your problem with math? The vaccines are from 75% to 95% effective,
not 100%. None of that means that the vaccines won't substantially reduce
your risk of getting Covid, your probability of transmitting it to someone
else, your risk of hospitalization and your risk of death.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

The problem with your rant is if you are vaccinated you have all the
protection you will get. It still does not stop you from infecting
others so maybe they need to keep you away.

There you go again, spreading more BS, even though it's been explained
to you here many times now that this is not true.

That is not my bull****.
Vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...read-the-virus
"Patients who have been vaccinated can certainly still contract
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, and pass it on to others.
There are two reasons for that, says Matthew Woodruff, an immunologist
at Emory University."
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12...order-vaccine/
"Vaccinated people could still carry and spread the virus and should
continue to wear masks, practice frequent hand-washing and socially
distance until a majority of the population is inoculated, Krouse
said."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ne/ar-BB1cMHJe
Dr. Fauci Said You Can Still Carry the Virus After Getting Vaccinated

"I do want to ask you about this new study overseas, this study of
British healthcare workers," said Today anchor Craig Melvin. "And it
found that folks with antibodies could still carry and spread the
virus. How worried should we be about our friends and family members
who've already had COVID-19?"
Fauci, for his part, has long said we'd still need to abide by public
health measures even after getting vaccinated, just in case.
"Obviously, with a 90-plus percent effective vaccine, you could feel
much more confident" that you won't get COVID-19, Fauci told CNN. "But
I would recommend to people to not abandon all public health measures
just because you have been vaccinated€¦.even though, for the general
population, it might be 90 to 95% effective," said Fauci, "you don't
necessarily know, for you, how effective it is."

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-5, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

well you know the answer to that question. if somebody gets sick, They're punitive.

they are doing their best to avoid litigation

mk5000

Thankfully, it was just a dream, but its a painful reminder that Billie, despite her superstar status, is still a human being who has her own personal experiences with mental health issues. Before you go ahead and blast this song before the timely hour of sad b*tch oclock, allow me to decode these lyrics for you so you can truly understand the way Billie was feeling when she wrote it.--STARR BOWENBANK on Billie Eilish

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-5, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.

People going to Rutgers in person classes will have to be vaccinated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/rutgers-to-require-covid-19-vaccination-for-students-this-fall/ar-BB1eXp2g

On 3/25/2021 7:16 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-5, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.
People going to Rutgers in person classes will have to be vaccinated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/rutgers-to-require-covid-19-vaccination-for-students-this-fall/ar-BB1eXp2g


And the bidencrats let illegals cross the border with active covid-19 infections. LOL

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-5, democrat logic wrote:
On 3/25/2021 7:16 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-5, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.
People going to Rutgers in person classes will have to be vaccinated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/rutgers-to-require-covid-19-vaccination-for-students-this-fall/ar-BB1eXp2g
And the bidencrats let illegals cross the border with active covid-19 infections. LOL

Bidencrat California the entire state opens for vaccinations next week to everyone 16 years old. Its a free for for all!
Red States like Alabama still mired in phase 1A like some kinda giant container ship stuck in a canal or something, and still mostly only old or sick people can get vaccinated.
I just dont get it.


mk5000


Andy Dufresne: Here's where it makes the most sense. You need it so you don't forget.
Red: Forget?
Andy Dufresne: Forget that... there are places in this world that aren't made out of stone. That there's something inside... that they can't get to, that they can't touch. That's yours.--The Shawshank Redemption

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 3:35:37 PM UTC-4, marika wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:48:10 AM UTC-5, democrat logic wrote:
On 3/25/2021 7:16 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:18:02 AM UTC-5, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
Vaccinated fans will soon have their own sections at Miami Heat games.

The Heat announced plans Tuesday to open two sections in their lower bowl only for fully vaccinated fans starting with an April 1 game against Golden State. They are the first NBA team to reveal such a plan, though other clubs are believed to be working
on similar measures.

Masks will still be required, even for the vaccinated fans, but social distancing rules will be slightly relaxed in those areas.


https://populist.press/vaccinated-on...ow-in-america/


If the vaccines actually worked, they could eliminate the heavy-handed mask and social distancing mandates.
People going to Rutgers in person classes will have to be vaccinated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/rutgers-to-require-covid-19-vaccination-for-students-this-fall/ar-BB1eXp2g
And the bidencrats let illegals cross the border with active covid-19 infections. LOL
Bidencrat California the entire state opens for vaccinations next week to everyone 16 years old. Its a free for for all!
Red States like Alabama still mired in phase 1A like some kinda giant container ship stuck in a canal or something, and still mostly only old or sick people can get vaccinated.
I just dont get it.

Most states are moving down slowly, so that those that most need the vaccine
can get it first, instead of creating a free for all. That's the logical approach.