From the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/fauci-spins-wheel-of-science-to-see-what-science-is-recommending-today

I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.

On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:51 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

From the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/fauci-spins-wheel-of-science-to-see-what-science-is-recommending-today

I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.


Vanna White makes about 10 million - get her to analyse
the pandemic ...
John T.

On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:51 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

From the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/fauci-spins-wheel-of-science-to-see-what-science-is-recommending-today

I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.

It wouldn't surprise me. He is not a regular government employee. He
is a "title (76?)" some number like that and it is a political
appointee that serves at the pleasure of the secretary of HHS. I did
think that capped at around $250k tho. Maybe that includes percs or
other income.

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:51 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

From the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/fauci-spins-wheel-of-science-to-see-what-science-is-recommending-today

I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.

Yes, I see that Forbes says that. I'm sure it's in the public record.
He may be the highest federal government employee. I think he's a G75.
He started as a G3 but he got promoted and gets years-of-service
increments, and he's been there for 200 years.

Well, that's my guess.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 31 Jan 2021 04:17:09 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:14:51 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

From the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/fauci-spins-wheel-of-science-to-see-what-science-is-recommending-today

I hadn't read the article. Fauci sure has a great sense of humor, which
has clearly been liberated when he was liberated, now that he works for
Biden. If this story is even partly true, he must have gotten ready to
burst over the last 12 months.

I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.

Yes, I see that Forbes says that. I'm sure it's in the public record.
He may be the highest federal government employee. I think he's a G75.
He started as a G3 but he got promoted and gets years-of-service
increments, and he's been there for 200 years.

Well, that's my guess.

Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.


First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down
that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 15:33:10 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.


First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

Google it. They have him making $417k a year based on an FOIA request.
Forbes did a whole story on it. It turns out the 10 highest paid
government employees work for HHS.
https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/07/21/...-1-well-known/


"DR Qualified" Fauci is top on the list.
He never really served as a "doctor" (never ran a practice) so he is
just "Doctor Qualified" according to the Joyce rule.

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 04:47:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down
that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

He has never actually seen a patient as a doctor, only as a
researcher. He started in research at NIH right out of medical school.
They don't treat patients, they only study them.

wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Dean Hoffman wrote
Scott Lurndal wrote
Dean Hoffman wrote

I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.

First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.

Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area
pull down that much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

He has never actually seen a patient as a doctor,

You don't know that.

only as a researcher.

Its never that black and white.

He started in research at NIH right out of medical school.
They don't treat patients, they only study them.

That last is bull****. Plenty of researchers do treat patients with new
treatments.

And my comment was about his speciality, he was never a cardiologist.
His field has always been immunology, which might just explain why he
is used with this virus.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:37:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 04:47:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down
that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

He has never actually seen a patient as a doctor, only as a
researcher.

That's not true. As a 3rd- and 4th-year med student, intern, and
resident in internal medicine, a total of about 7 years he saw patients.
For the last 5 of those years that's all he did is see patients.

He started in research at NIH right out of medical school.

Where did you get that? After med school "He completed an internship
and residency in internal medicine at the New York Hospital-Cornell
Medical Center (now Weill Cornell Medical Center)." Wikip.

They don't treat patients, they only study them.

Of course researchers do not see patients except as part of their
research. That's what some doctors do. Nothing he does now requires
more experience treating patients than he has. There are 10's of
thousands of doctors who treat patients, and the doctors tell the NIH,
CDC, and the NIAID what they learn about those patients.

I'll tell you a story. My brother's first week in medical school, at
dinner, he told my mother and me that the class was told that the
C-students would become the practicing doctors and the A- and B-students
would go into research. And Fauci was first in his class.

Get your facts straight.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 02 Feb 2021 02:17:18 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:37:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 04:47:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down
that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

He has never actually seen a patient as a doctor, only as a
researcher.

That's not true. As a 3rd- and 4th-year med student, intern, and
resident in internal medicine, a total of about 7 years he saw patients.
For the last 5 of those years that's all he did is see patients.

He started in research at NIH right out of medical school.

Where did you get that? After med school "He completed an internship
and residency in internal medicine at the New York Hospital-Cornell
Medical Center (now Weill Cornell Medical Center)." Wikip.

They don't treat patients, they only study them.

Of course researchers do not see patients except as part of their
research. That's what some doctors do. Nothing he does now requires
more experience treating patients than he has. There are 10's of
thousands of doctors who treat patients, and the doctors tell the NIH,
CDC, and the NIAID what they learn about those patients.

I'll tell you a story. My brother's first week in medical school, at
dinner, he told my mother and me that the class was told that the
C-students would become the practicing doctors and the A- and B-students
would go into research. And Fauci was first in his class.

Get your facts straight.

Actually his bio is a little hard to follow. His residency was
interrupted by the Viet Nam War.

My brother and he are about the same age, and my brother signed up for
the Berry Plan, which allowed him to enlist in the Army but finish the
two years left on his residency before he was inducted. This way he
could be a radiologist rather than a GP in the army, and this was in the
army's interest too. After induction, he served two years in the army
including one year in Viet Nam, Can Tho but most of the year in Cu Chi.

It was something like M*A*S*H. He lived in a tent, with sandbags piled
around the outside of it. The VC had tunnels under Cu Chi and they blew
up the enlisted men's mess, and the officer's latrine, or the other way
around. But my brother wasn't in either at the time. He got 2 weeks
of R&R in the middle of his tour and went to Thailand.

It seems that Dr. Fauci's residency was split into two pieces with 2
years at the NIH in between. Doctors were assigned to places like the
NIH, and ..what's the federal public health agency called? Oh yeah, the
United States Public Health Service (USPHS). My brother went down to
DC to see where he would be assigned, and my mother thought that because
he did that, they assigned him to Viet Nam and if he hadn't he might
have gotten some place safer. Maybe she was right. But he wasn't
injured in VN afaict, at least not physically. He doesn't like to talk
about it.

Fauci finished his residency at Cornell's chief resident, and soon after
became board certified in "internal medicine, infectious diseases, and
allergy/immunology, with top scores". Very impressive. Most doctors
start off with only one, and most are never certified in more than one
specialty (and many not even one).

http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/about/directors/biography/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1994641/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_Plan

The Berry Plan offered draftees three choices: entry into the Armed
Forces after completing a medical internship, ****after completing one
year of residency and returning to their residencies after completion of
service****, and after completion of a full residency program.

The asterisks are mine. It's so similar to what Fauci did that Fauci
does seem to have joined the Berry Plan and taken the one surrounded by
asterisks, and my brother took the third choice.

The plan did not promise the branch of service or the length of
deferral, rather the applicant was relegated to partial or full
deferment. The applicant was also told which branch of the military he
or she would be allocated. The applicants were not advised that if they
signed before age 25 that they would be subjected to two years of active
reserve duty after they fulfilled the active military commitment. the
applicants were titled "obligated volunteers". The Berry Plan ended in
1973, with the last four physicians to complete their education and
training entering the armed forces in 1980.

But my brother was over 25 when he enrolled, and I think Fauci too.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:14:55 -0500,
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 15:33:10 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.


First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

Google it. They have him making $417k a year based on an FOIA request.
Forbes did a whole story on it. It turns out the 10 highest paid
government employees work for HHS.
https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/07/21/...-1-well-known/


"DR Qualified" Fauci is top on the list.
He never really served as a "doctor" (never ran a practice)

That's nonsense. Did you read what I said? It's the A- and B-students in
medical schools who become researcher, and the C-students who see
patients. Medical schools award MD degrees to all of them and they
consider serving as a researcher to be serving as a doctor. You have no
power to change that.

And you ignored the 7 years he treated patients. And "running" a
practice is certainly not required, even by you I think, since emergency
room doctors, surgeons of various kinds, radiologists and others never
run a practice. They all work for hospitals or something similar. And
these days that's true of many other specialists too.

so he is
just "Doctor Qualified" according to the Joyce rule.

That's more nonsense. Jim was just telling use what the Rangers' rule
is, and it only applies to the Rangers. They don't try to apply it to
doctors and neither should you. This is the kind of crap I really
despise. And remember that I suggested even the SEALS might have a
different rule, even though theyr'e part of the US Armed Forces. The
medical world has no reason to join in.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:00:40 -0500, micky
wrote:

It seems that Dr. Fauci's residency was split into two pieces with 2
years at the NIH in between. Doctors were assigned to places like the
NIH, and ..what's the federal public health agency called? Oh yeah, the
United States Public Health Service (USPHS).

Turns out the NIH, CDC, are part of the PHS:

As part of the Public Health Service, there are eight from eleven
divisions within the Department of Health and Human Services that are
listed:[2]

National Institutes of Health
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Indian Health Service
Food and Drug Administration
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
Health Resources and Services Administration
Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration

The NIAID might be in there somewhere too.

And the pandemic office and vaccine office that trump got rid of might
have been in there too.

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH another load of the trolling senile asshole's troll****


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On 2/2/21 2:17 AM, micky wrote:
I'll tell you a story. My brother's first week in medical school, at
dinner, he told my mother and me that the class was told that the
C-students would become the practicing doctors and the A- and B-students
would go into research. And Fauci was first in his class.

Get your facts straight.


All that education and Fony Tauci is still confused on the mask protocol.Â* Sheeeesh!

On Tue, 02 Feb 2021 02:17:18 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:37:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 04:47:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down
that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

He has never actually seen a patient as a doctor, only as a
researcher.

That's not true. As a 3rd- and 4th-year med student, intern, and
resident in internal medicine, a total of about 7 years he saw patients.
For the last 5 of those years that's all he did is see patients.

He started in research at NIH right out of medical school.

Where did you get that? After med school "He completed an internship
and residency in internal medicine at the New York Hospital-Cornell
Medical Center (now Weill Cornell Medical Center)." Wikip.

Until he passes his boards, he is not a doctor. That is after intern
and resident.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 02 Feb 2021 17:21:29 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Feb 2021 02:17:18 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:37:04 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 04:47:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 9:33:17 AM UTC-6, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dean Hoffman writes:


I read elsewhere that Fauci is making over $400,000 per year.
First, you're making a statement without support. Provide the citation.
Here for one:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/26/fauci-reportedly-the-highest-paid-federal-employee-in-us/
He made over $417,000 back in 2019.

Second, a significant fraction of programmers in the bay area pull down
that
much (counting RSUs, ESPP and options).

The average cardiologist makes $250k to $450k annually.

He isnt a cardiologist.

He has never actually seen a patient as a doctor, only as a
researcher.

Evey if your theory below of who a doctor is were correct, and it's not,
this statement would still be wrong, because he had seen patients as an
intern and a resident in internal medicine, not "only as a researcher".

His goal was not to do research but to diagnose and/or treat, mostly
unlike a researcher. He was not a researcher.

Your statement would also be incorrect because he saw patients for two
years as a medical student, not "only as a researcher. As a medical
student, his goal was not to do research but to diagnose and/or treat,
under the supervision of a licensed doctor. He was not a researcher.

That's not true. As a 3rd- and 4th-year med student, intern, and
resident in internal medicine, a total of about 7 years he saw patients.
For the last 5 of those years that's all he did is see patients.

He started in research at NIH right out of medical school.

Where did you get that? After med school "He completed an internship
and residency in internal medicine at the New York Hospital-Cornell
Medical Center (now Weill Cornell Medical Center)." Wikip.

Until he passes his boards, he is not a doctor. That is after intern
and resident.

More nonsense.

They are doctors a few days after they graduate medical school which is
when they are awarded a doctor of medicine degree. IIRC my brother's
graduation was 2 days after the end of med school because he had to be
at his internship by July 1.

They are *licensed* doctors after they finish their internship, apply to
be licensed, and have their application approved. They are almost always
approved. AIUI some don't bother then and wait until they finish their
residency. After their license application is approved, they are
licensed doctors.

After they take the exams in their specialty if they have one, and pass
them, they become doctors board-certified in a given specialty.