Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 9:22:47 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.

Well, bully for you. What are you having for lunch today?

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:

Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.

The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.
The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)

I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Google and Amazon have much better profiles on me than the cops could
ever get from my mail. I don't see why the government doing it is any
worse than commercial data miners.

Cindy Hamilton

On 01/19/2021 02:25 PM, wrote:
I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Yeah, my subscription to the Thunderbolt ran out decades ago... If they
want glossy campaign crap, I've got a ton. I've been using them for air
pistol targets in a completely non-partisan fashion.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 19:50:55 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Yeah, my subscription to the Thunderbolt ran out decades ago... If they
want glossy campaign crap, I've got a ton. I've been using them for air
pistol targets in a completely non-partisan fashion.

Do you get some kind of tiny senile orgasm, every time you find an
opportunity to hear yourself talking, senile gossip?

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 9:50:31 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 01/19/2021 02:25 PM, wrote:
I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?
Yeah, my subscription to the Thunderbolt ran out decades ago... If they
want glossy campaign crap, I've got a ton. I've been using them for air
pistol targets

I thought that's what squirrels were for.

Cindy Hamilton

On 01/20/2021 04:33 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 9:50:31 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 01/19/2021 02:25 PM, wrote:
I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?
Yeah, my subscription to the Thunderbolt ran out decades ago... If they
want glossy campaign crap, I've got a ton. I've been using them for air
pistol targets

I thought that's what squirrels were for.

Very few squirrels around here; they stay in the city and collect
welfare. Seriously, the only hardwoods are cottonwood and a few aspen.
The little pine squirrels can survive on p. pine and Douglas fir cones
but the grays and foxes don't have a taste for them.

I see a grey every few years and I don't begrudge him some sunflower
seeds since they don't last long between the coyotes and eagles.

There are Columbia ground squirrels but they won't wake up until May.

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 4:25:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.
The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)
I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Google and Amazon have much better profiles on me than the cops could
ever get from my mail. I don't see why the government doing it is any
worse than commercial data miners.

Cindy Hamilton

I agree. Unless you're running a mail fraud operation out of your home mailbox
or receiving illegal drug deliveries there, I think it has little value in proving crimes.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:58:16 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 4:25:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.
The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)
I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Google and Amazon have much better profiles on me than the cops could
ever get from my mail. I don't see why the government doing it is any
worse than commercial data miners.

Cindy Hamilton

I agree. Unless you're running a mail fraud operation out of your home mailbox
or receiving illegal drug deliveries there, I think it has little value in proving crimes.

It is not really solving crimes, it is just identifying suspects that
they then can investigate further. These days I suspect that if you
are receiving 80% lowers in the mail, people at ATF might start
looking at you a lot closer. If you added a few newsletters from
radical groups and perhaps some correspondence with a chemical
company, I would expect to see that plain white Crown Vic cruising by
your house frequently and people snatching your trash.
Some things are different.
These days you don't see Agent Youngblood climbing a pole in front of
your house to tap your phone. It is done with a few key strokes on a
computer and you don't have anything detectable on your line.

It is pretty much the same thing if they are sniffing packets from
your IP address for you digital only people. They can also sniff based
on the MAC address of your PC in case you always use a hot spot away
from the house.

It all depends on who is looking at you and how hard they want to
look.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:25:11 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.
The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)

I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Google and Amazon have much better profiles on me than the cops could
ever get from my mail. I don't see why the government doing it is any
worse than commercial data miners.

Cindy Hamilton

It must have some value or the FBI would not use "mail covers" on
people they investigate.
I understand for a lot of people printed communication is a thing of
the past but there are still plenty of people who use the mail.
(you folks were telling us about it when "Trump slowed down the
mail").
They will be looking at the magazines you read, the groups that send
you newsletters, packages you receive and the source of letters you
get. If your return address is on your mail, they get who you are
sending mail to.

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 3:15:01 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:25:11 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.
The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)

I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Google and Amazon have much better profiles on me than the cops could
ever get from my mail. I don't see why the government doing it is any
worse than commercial data miners.

Cindy Hamilton
It must have some value or the FBI would not use "mail covers" on
people they investigate.
I understand for a lot of people printed communication is a thing of
the past but there are still plenty of people who use the mail.
(you folks were telling us about it when "Trump slowed down the
mail").
They will be looking at the magazines you read, the groups that send
you newsletters, packages you receive and the source of letters you
get. If your return address is on your mail, they get who you are
sending mail to.

No magazines, no newsletters. Packages mainly from Amazon and
one or two women's clothing online stores. No letters. Some stuff
from the Social Security Administration. Junk mail.

The could tap our phones and get the same boring results. Nothing
to see here. We don't even send out for pizza.

Even our e-mail is dull, dull, dull. And e-mail is how we get most
of our bills.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:58:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 3:15:01 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:25:11 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:22:39 -0500, micky
wrote:
Informed Delivery sent me an email today with pictures of 6 pieces of
mail. I thought it had a limit of 3, and sometimes it would say there
were more at the dashboard, but there were never more for that day. I
think they meant the previous 5 mail delivery days, which you can look
at also on the web.

And it is good because a few days ago I saw the speed camera ticket in
an email, so I could look for it among all the junk mail.

This service costs the governmet, I think, next to nothing, because the
sorting machines already take pictures of the mail while sorting. So
that just leaves writing one or two software programs and the cost of
email.

And btw Arlen, even before there was politics here, posts like this were
welcome.
The Informed Delivery infrastructure certainly makes it a lot easier
for the cops to run a warrantless "mail cover" on you, collecting an
image of both sides of every piece of mail you get.
I guess if you never do anything illegal, so what but they can build a
pretty good profile on you without any sort of probable cause.
Sleep tight, Big Brother is your friend. ;-)

I'm a little fuzzy on what the cops can get out of my junk mail. How useful
are newsletters for school districts that I'm not even in?

Google and Amazon have much better profiles on me than the cops could
ever get from my mail. I don't see why the government doing it is any
worse than commercial data miners.

Cindy Hamilton
It must have some value or the FBI would not use "mail covers" on
people they investigate.
I understand for a lot of people printed communication is a thing of
the past but there are still plenty of people who use the mail.
(you folks were telling us about it when "Trump slowed down the
mail").
They will be looking at the magazines you read, the groups that send
you newsletters, packages you receive and the source of letters you
get. If your return address is on your mail, they get who you are
sending mail to.

No magazines, no newsletters. Packages mainly from Amazon and
one or two women's clothing online stores. No letters. Some stuff
from the Social Security Administration. Junk mail.

The could tap our phones and get the same boring results. Nothing
to see here. We don't even send out for pizza.

Even our e-mail is dull, dull, dull. And e-mail is how we get most
of our bills.

Cindy Hamilton

I don't have anything to hide either. That is why I post with my real
name.
Come and get me copper.
We can have a beer and talk about what a waste of time this
investigation was.

On 01/20/2021 01:58 PM, wrote:
The could tap our phones and get the same boring results. Nothing
to see here. We don't even send out for pizza.

About the only person I talk to is my ex. I try not to get her fired up
about Cuomo, DeBlasio, and so forth. She said one of her friends dropped
her because of her politics and religion so I steer clear.

Otherwise it's the assholes telling me the warranty on the car I bought
in March is expiring.