I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

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On 1/4/21 12:35 AM, steve wrote:
I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v


How many amps does your gate motor require?
FWIW, some automatic gates are powered by a battery.

https://www.southwire.com/calculator-vdrop

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 05:35:00 +0000, steve
wrote:

I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

Most gates I have seen only use the AC power to charge the battery.
The requirement is pretty low.
Even if this is direct AC drive, #12 should be plenty.

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I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

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Others mentioned you need to list the current of the load.

One other thing is that 200 feet may be too long.

Numbers vary from 150 to 250 feet is the maximum length of wire from the
outlet to the load of a ground fault outlet. They may trip from the
internal leakage of the wires if long enough.

I use the term internal leakage very loosley as there can be several
factors determining the tripping due to wire length.

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 10:10:43 AM UTC-5, Ralph Mowery wrote:
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says...

I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

--


Others mentioned you need to list the current of the load.

One other thing is that 200 feet may be too long.

Numbers vary from 150 to 250 feet is the maximum length of wire from the
outlet to the load of a ground fault outlet. They may trip from the
internal leakage of the wires if long enough.

I use the term internal leakage very loosley as there can be several
factors determining the tripping due to wire length.

Good point. IDK what the code says regarding electric gates and GFCI. But he
may be better off running it non-GFCI to the gate and then installing a GFCI there,
just before the gate. Having a GFCI receptacle at the gate might be a good idea
too, handy for future repairs, plugging in a chain saw, Xmas lights, etc.

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 07:58:40 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 10:10:43 AM UTC-5, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article 1656f0a31b067245$2$168419$4206dc53
@news.newsgroupdirect.com,
says...

I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

--


Others mentioned you need to list the current of the load.

One other thing is that 200 feet may be too long.

Numbers vary from 150 to 250 feet is the maximum length of wire from the
outlet to the load of a ground fault outlet. They may trip from the
internal leakage of the wires if long enough.

I use the term internal leakage very loosley as there can be several
factors determining the tripping due to wire length.

Good point. IDK what the code says regarding electric gates and GFCI. But he
may be better off running it non-GFCI to the gate and then installing a GFCI there,
just before the gate. Having a GFCI receptacle at the gate might be a good idea
too, handy for future repairs, plugging in a chain saw, Xmas lights, etc.

That's pretty much what I ended up doing here, on my project to run power
to a storage shed in the back yard. The run was 120 feet so the electrician
put in a standard breaker at the service panel at the house, then a pair of
GFCI breakers inside the shed, one for lighting and one for receptacles.
His reasoning was that I won't lose the lights if I trip the receptacle
breaker. Handy for working after sunset.

On 1/4/21 6:18 AM, jimmy wrote:
On 1/4/21 12:35 AM, steve wrote:
I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when
I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about
200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v


How many amps does your gate motor require?
FWIW, some automatic gates are powered by a battery.

https://www.southwire.com/calculator-vdrop

Maybe it's too late but there's an alternative he
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JTuSxcuNvY
The vehicle's weight opens the gate. I imagine there would
be some problems in areas with snow.

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 07:58:40 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 10:10:43 AM UTC-5, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article 1656f0a31b067245$2$168419$4206dc53
@news.newsgroupdirect.com,
says...

I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

--


Others mentioned you need to list the current of the load.

One other thing is that 200 feet may be too long.

Numbers vary from 150 to 250 feet is the maximum length of wire from the
outlet to the load of a ground fault outlet. They may trip from the
internal leakage of the wires if long enough.

I use the term internal leakage very loosley as there can be several
factors determining the tripping due to wire length.

Good point. IDK what the code says regarding electric gates and GFCI. But he
may be better off running it non-GFCI to the gate and then installing a GFCI there,
just before the gate. Having a GFCI receptacle at the gate might be a good idea
too, handy for future repairs, plugging in a chain saw, Xmas lights, etc.



One issue might be burial depth. A 120v 15 or 20 amp GFCI protected
circuit on residential property only needs to be 12" down. Otherwise
it is 18" for pipe and 24" for direct burial cable.
The max length on a GFCI circuit is also manufacturers erring on the
safe side. I don't even have a clue how much wire is on the circuit in
my screen cage and out to the shed but it is way over 250 feet total.

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 4:56:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 07:58:40 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:
On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 10:10:43 AM UTC-5, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article 1656f0a31b067245$2$168419$4206dc53
@news.newsgroupdirect.com,
says...

I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about 200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v

--


Others mentioned you need to list the current of the load.

One other thing is that 200 feet may be too long.

Numbers vary from 150 to 250 feet is the maximum length of wire from the
outlet to the load of a ground fault outlet. They may trip from the
internal leakage of the wires if long enough.

I use the term internal leakage very loosley as there can be several
factors determining the tripping due to wire length.

Good point. IDK what the code says regarding electric gates and GFCI. But he
may be better off running it non-GFCI to the gate and then installing a GFCI there,
just before the gate. Having a GFCI receptacle at the gate might be a good idea
too, handy for future repairs, plugging in a chain saw, Xmas lights, etc.


One issue might be burial depth. A 120v 15 or 20 amp GFCI protected
circuit on residential property only needs to be 12" down.

Otherwise
it is 18" for pipe and 24" for direct burial cable.

Or just 2" if the conduit is through rock (with not less than 2" of concrete) and 24" if the conduit goes under a street or road off of the property (as per code NEC table 300.5, figure 300-7).

The max length on a GFCI circuit is also manufacturers erring on the
safe side. I don't even have a clue how much wire is on the circuit in
my screen cage and out to the shed but it is way over 250 feet total.

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-6, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 1/4/21 6:18 AM, jimmy wrote:
On 1/4/21 12:35 AM, steve wrote:
I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when
I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about
200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v


How many amps does your gate motor require?
FWIW, some automatic gates are powered by a battery.

https://www.southwire.com/calculator-vdrop
Maybe it's too late but there's an alternative he
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JTuSxcuNvY
The vehicle's weight opens the gate. I imagine there would
be some problems in areas with snow.
vehicle's weight is not what opens gates ( At least out of a few thousand I have put in ) Simply put its a metal detector where you see the square or circle in the the street/drive.

On 1/6/2021 6:12 AM, Mark wrote:
On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-6, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 1/4/21 6:18 AM, jimmy wrote:
On 1/4/21 12:35 AM, steve wrote:
I put an automatic gate in but I did not know that I was going to when
I built the house. I have a GFI outlet on the back of my house about
200 feet from where I need power. What size wire should I use. Its 110v


How many amps does your gate motor require?
FWIW, some automatic gates are powered by a battery.

https://www.southwire.com/calculator-vdrop
Maybe it's too late but there's an alternative he
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JTuSxcuNvY
The vehicle's weight opens the gate. I imagine there would
be some problems in areas with snow.
vehicle's weight is not what opens gates ( At least out of a few thousand I have put in ) Simply put its a metal detector where you see the square or circle in the the street/drive.

Did you watch the video before you replied?! *The weight of the vehicle
causes the gate to open!* Here's the link again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JTuSxcuNvY

Watch and learn.