I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords. At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.

They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.

I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 and 4.67 refer to.

What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 . Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...-Cord-Storage-
Reel-with-Stand/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:33:16 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:


I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords. At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.
They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.
I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 and 4.67 refer to.
What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 . Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...-Cord-Storage-
Reel-with-Stand/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.



I checked the Lowes Canadian web site :

https://www.lowes.ca/product/extensi...ge-reel-357388

They had the brains to say 16/3 and 14/3
... instead of "doing the math " :-)

pg. 28 of 120 has some physical dimensions :

https://tinyurl.com/y9k8woj8

John T.

In article ,
says...


I checked the Lowes Canadian web site :

https://www.lowes.ca/product/extensi...ge-reel-357388

They had the brains to say 16/3 and 14/3
.. instead of "doing the math " :-)




Ok that makes sense now. Some computer decided to devide the wire gauge
by the number of conductors instead of listing it as wire size and
conductors. Really not useful information for anything.

I may or may not be able to get my 100 feet of 4.00 ( 12/3) wire on that
reel.
I do have some either 14 or 18 gauge cords that I can put on it if the
12 will not fit.


Thanks

On 12/25/2020 1:06 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article ,
says...


I checked the Lowes Canadian web site :

https://www.lowes.ca/product/extensi...ge-reel-357388

They had the brains to say 16/3 and 14/3
.. instead of "doing the math " :-)




Ok that makes sense now. Some computer decided to devide the wire gauge
by the number of conductors instead of listing it as wire size and
conductors. Really not useful information for anything.

I may or may not be able to get my 100 feet of 4.00 ( 12/3) wire on that
reel.
I do have some either 14 or 18 gauge cords that I can put on it if the
12 will not fit.


These ones work really well for cords less than your original one, if
you spray a little silicone spray on the sliding surface of the handle.
They take up less room, and are cheaper. I have several of them, and you
just pick them up by the handle in the center with one hand and crank
with the other


https://www.grainger.com/category/el...&filters=attrs

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:06:47 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article ,
says...


I checked the Lowes Canadian web site :

https://www.lowes.ca/product/extensi...ge-reel-357388

They had the brains to say 16/3 and 14/3
.. instead of "doing the math " :-)




Ok that makes sense now. Some computer decided to devide the wire gauge
by the number of conductors

That's hilarious.

instead of listing it as wire size and
conductors. Really not useful information for anything.

I may or may not be able to get my 100 feet of 4.00 ( 12/3) wire on that
reel.
I do have some either 14 or 18 gauge cords that I can put on it if the
12 will not fit.


Thanks

On 12/25/20 3:33 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords. At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.

They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.

I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 and 4.67 refer to.

What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 . Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...-Cord-Storage-
Reel-with-Stand/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.


Those numbers , 5.33 and 4.67, are typos. Someone entered them as a
numerics, not text. And did not proof read their work.

16 divided by 3 = 5.33, 14 divided by 3 = 4.67

This type of error seems to occur a lot in Lowes, Home Depot, and others
item listings.

On 12/25/2020 1:07 PM, wrote:
On 12/25/20 3:33 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords.Â* At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.

They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.

I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 andÂ* 4.67 referÂ* to.

What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 .Â* Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...-Cord-Storage-
Reel-with-Stand/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire.Â* I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.


Those numbers , 5.33 and 4.67, are typos. Someone entered them as a
numerics, not text. And did not proof read their work.

16 divided by 3 = 5.33,Â* 14 divided by 3 = 4.67

This type of error seems to occur a lot in Lowes, Home Depot, and others
item listings.

Good observation.

On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 4:07:49 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On 12/25/20 3:33 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords. At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.

They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.

I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 and 4.67 refer to.

What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 . Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...-Cord-Storage-
Reel-with-Stand/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.

Those numbers , 5.33 and 4.67, are typos. Someone entered them as a
numerics, not text. And did not proof read their work.

16 divided by 3 = 5.33, 14 divided by 3 = 4.67

This type of error seems to occur a lot in Lowes, Home Depot, and others
item listings.

Wow, I'm impressed that you figured that out from what was posted.
My kudos!

On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 4:07:49 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On 12/25/20 3:33 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords. At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.

They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.

I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 and 4.67 refer to.

What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 . Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...-Cord-Storage-
Reel-with-Stand/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.

Those numbers , 5.33 and 4.67, are typos. Someone entered them as a
numerics, not text. And did not proof read their work.

16 divided by 3 = 5.33, 14 divided by 3 = 4.67

This type of error seems to occur a lot in Lowes, Home Depot, and others
item listings.

I wonder if Lowes has changed these figures to something more accurate or not.

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:33:16 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:


I am looking at some reels to hold some drop cords. At lowes they
specify a reel that has something new to me.

They list the reel holding 150 feet of 5.33 or 125 feet of 4.67 SJT
wire.

I know what SJT is , but do not know what the 5.33 and 4.67 refer to.

What would that relate to in the outside of the cord or the wire size ?

If diameter in milimeters or some other demension looks like the numbers
are backward.

It also lists 150 feet of 5 . Just what does that 5 stand for ?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Unbranded-K...and/5000730131


I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.

In article ,
lid says...

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.




The way to use them at shorter lengths is to put the middle of the cord
under the hook and wind the cord up on parallel lengths. That way you
have both ends on the outside when you finish. You can then pull out
what you need. It is not good to draw heavy current with the wire
wrapped on the reel as it can over heat. Wire depends on being in open
air for full or near full current capacity.

On 12/25/2020 1:38 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.




The way to use them at shorter lengths is to put the middle of the cord
under the hook and wind the cord up on parallel lengths. That way you
have both ends on the outside when you finish. You can then pull out
what you need. It is not good to draw heavy current with the wire
wrapped on the reel as it can over heat. Wire depends on being in open
air for full or near full current capacity.



I usually put the female end through the hole in the side of my reel,
then reel it up. When I use it, I reel out what I need and plug the tool
into the socket with the reel laying near the work area. When done. I
unplug the tool, pick up the reel and wind it up as I walk to where it
is plugged in.

Not to say that your approach doesn't have equal utility.

On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:38:43 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.




The way to use them at shorter lengths is to put the middle of the cord
under the hook and wind the cord up on parallel lengths. That way you
have both ends on the outside when you finish. You can then pull out
what you need. It is not good to draw heavy current with the wire
wrapped on the reel as it can over heat. Wire depends on being in open
air for full or near full current capacity.

A plastic reel isn't as bad as a steel one - where the steel acts as
the core of the inductor - - -

On 12/25/2020 6:40 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:38:43 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article ,
lid says...

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.




The way to use them at shorter lengths is to put the middle of the cord
under the hook and wind the cord up on parallel lengths. That way you
have both ends on the outside when you finish. You can then pull out
what you need. It is not good to draw heavy current with the wire
wrapped on the reel as it can over heat. Wire depends on being in open
air for full or near full current capacity.

A plastic reel isn't as bad as a steel one - where the steel acts as
the core of the inductor - - -


The magnetic field of the hot and neutral cancel each other. Otherwise
steel conduit wouldn't be usefull.

I agree with Ralph, high current with wire wrapped can overheat the cord.

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:08:22 -0600, bud-- wrote:

On 12/25/2020 6:40 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:38:43 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article ,
lid says...

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.




The way to use them at shorter lengths is to put the middle of the cord
under the hook and wind the cord up on parallel lengths. That way you
have both ends on the outside when you finish. You can then pull out
what you need. It is not good to draw heavy current with the wire
wrapped on the reel as it can over heat. Wire depends on being in open
air for full or near full current capacity.

A plastic reel isn't as bad as a steel one - where the steel acts as
the core of the inductor - - -


The magnetic field of the hot and neutral cancel each other. Otherwise
steel conduit wouldn't be usefull.

I agree with Ralph, high current with wire wrapped can overheat the cord.

There is still capacitive coupling to steel raceway systems. That is
why GFCI manufacturers set limits to the length of conduit runs.

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:08:22 -0600, bud-- wrote:

On 12/25/2020 6:40 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:38:43 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article ,
lid says...

I can't answer your question but a few months ago I dropped two of those
things off at the local Habitat ReStore. For me, they sucked. There needs
to be a way to use the cord without completely unrolling and removing all
of it. Actually, it wouldn't have been that hard to modify them, but I was
short tempered that day and just wanted to get rid of them.




The way to use them at shorter lengths is to put the middle of the cord
under the hook and wind the cord up on parallel lengths. That way you
have both ends on the outside when you finish. You can then pull out
what you need. It is not good to draw heavy current with the wire
wrapped on the reel as it can over heat. Wire depends on being in open
air for full or near full current capacity.

A plastic reel isn't as bad as a steel one - where the steel acts as
the core of the inductor - - -


The magnetic field of the hot and neutral cancel each other. Otherwise
steel conduit wouldn't be usefull.

I agree with Ralph, high current with wire wrapped can overheat the cord.
You are correct with a pure resistive load but with a capacitive or
inductive load (high power factor) if I remeber correctly there is a
reluctance issue

I need to hold 100 feet of # 12/3 drop cord.

Been thinking of just getting one of the water hose reels as I know that
will hold the wire. I have one with 100 feet of water hose on that is
much larger in diameter than the drop cord.

I didn't see anyone mention a retractable cord reel.
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