On 16/6/19 2:53 am, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 11:23:46 PM UTC-4, Xeno wrote:
On 14/6/19 3:47 am, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 11:19:18 PM UTC-4, Xeno wrote:
Prove it.

Try it in Australia. Also, with unlicenced/unregistered installations,
if a fire or similar occurs and the insurance assessor notes unlicenced
work, the claim will be dismissed even if the work had nothing to do
with the cause of the fire.


Then you have a crooked insurance company and you should go straight to
the regulators. You car catches fire in the garage, burns the house
down and they can deny the claim because someone unlicensed put in a
receptacle in the bathroom?

People have made the claim that work you did without a permit, if it
was SHOWN that incompetent work actually CAUSED the fire, would result
in the claim being denied. But every time we ask for some examples,
no one has been able to produce a single one. I know of only one
case where that happened and it was exceptional, with a lot of documented
evidence to support it.

And I don't see anyone here suggesting people do anything illegal,
ie install a solar system without a permit and required inspections.
As a homeowner, most places in the US, you can obtain the permit,
DIY and have whatever work you do inspected.

Look at where the aftermarket ones get to the complex bits, like auto
trans. They leave them out in general.

What is "auto trans"? Auto transfer? IDK what kind of eqpt you have
down there, but here the home solar eqpt doesn't use a transfer switch,
the grid disconnect detection and shutdown are in the inverters.

Automatic transmission. I was referring to the aftermarket service
manuals compared with factory manuals. Same with installation manuals
for things electrical - they *assume* a qualified electrician is
installing and skip the obvious info an electrician would know.

The same is true for a light switch, a light fixture, ceiling fan,
water heater, garbage disposal, ovens, etc. When you buy a receptacle
they don't tell you the codes that apply to the wiring, eg what kind
of wire, what gauge, how it has to be fastened, that junctions need
to be accessible, where they have to located in a kitchen, how many,
etc.

Yep, exactly the point I was making.


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Xeno


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