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Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18').
Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- |
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How about regular pt 5/4 x 6 board? Can be water coated to the color of choice? Right now I have the same size, plus awning covered so it extends more.
I have a good quality outdoor carpeting on the porch and the concrete steps leading up to it. Nice on barefeet and will not get hot. I replaced the carpeting after 8 years or so for about 500 us bucks. Note, I do not have the 5.4 under it but have built nice porches and decks using it. Regular grooved pine under carpet looks and feels fine to walk on. |
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On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:14:41 -0500, dpb wrote:
Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... I wouldn't lump all non-wood products into "Trex or the like". I have docks finished with Trex and do not care for how they have fared, but I have a large deck made with Azek and love it. Zero signs of wear after multiple years and no problems with heat or sagging. I bet Trex has improved as well. (My Trex docks are 11 years old. The Azek deck is only 3 years old.) |
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On 5/28/2019 2:14 PM, dpb wrote:
Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas?Â* I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color?Â* None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- I used tiger wood for my deck. If you keep some oil on it, looks great. If not, it will turn gray over time. Holds up for decades. Check out www.advantagelumber.com for some ideas of what alternative you have. |
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On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote:
Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas?Â* I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color?Â* None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm |
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On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas?Â* I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color?Â* None that come to mind right now aren't.... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm Great idea, cut down more rainforest for a deck..... Sounds like an idea Trump would like. |
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"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm Great idea, cut down more rainforest It isnt from rainforests. for a deck..... Sounds like an idea Trump would like. |
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On 5/28/19 5:55 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas?Â* I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color?Â* None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm Great idea, cut down more rainforest for a deck..... Sounds like an idea Trump would like. Do you see Trump in your coffee? |
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"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 8:14:17 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm Great idea, cut down more rainforest It isnt from rainforests. for a deck..... Sounds like an idea Trump would like. https://landscapearchitecturemagazin...ail-of-stumps/ "Most ipe (pronounced ee-pay) comes from rain forests in Brazil and Peru. Just because some pig ignorant fool claims something... |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 29 May 2019 14:47:37 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: https://landscapearchitecturemagazin...ail-of-stumps/ "Most ipe (pronounced ee-pay) comes from rain forests in Brazil and Peru. Just because some pig ignorant fool claims something... Ahh! The senile Ozzietard's idiocy has just been exposed again! G -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 12:55:24 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 8:14:17 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm Great idea, cut down more rainforest It isnt from rainforests. for a deck..... Sounds like an idea Trump would like. https://landscapearchitecturemagazin...ail-of-stumps/ "Most ipe (pronounced ee-pay) comes from rain forests in Brazil and Peru. Just because some pig ignorant fool claims something... Exactly. So please stop claiming things that are not true. |
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"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 12:55:24 AM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 8:14:17 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 5/28/2019 1:14 PM, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... -- As Clare mentioned and or Ipe. Ipe is a bit pricey but will last for a very long time and does not need to be painted, stained or varnished. It is fire rated but it will eventually burn in a fire place. ;~) The stuff is heavy and hard and is specifically milled for decking. https://www.advantagelumber.com/ipedecking.htm Great idea, cut down more rainforest It isnt from rainforests. for a deck..... Sounds like an idea Trump would like. https://landscapearchitecturemagazin...ail-of-stumps/ "Most ipe (pronounced ee-pay) comes from rain forests in Brazil and Peru. Just because some pig ignorant fool claims something... Exactly. So please stop claiming things that are not true. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. And you stupidly claim that that fool Raygun won the cold war. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 30 May 2019 03:09:40 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Exactly. So please stop claiming things that are not true. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. YOU certainly KEEP bull****ting your way FAST into your grave, you 85-year-old senile cretin! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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On 5/28/2019 3:01 PM, Pat wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:14:41 -0500, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... I wouldn't lump all non-wood products into "Trex or the like". I have docks finished with Trex and do not care for how they have fared, but I have a large deck made with Azek and love it. Zero signs of wear after multiple years and no problems with heat or sagging. I bet Trex has improved as well. (My Trex docks are 11 years old. The Azek deck is only 3 years old.) A few couple of years ago evaluating deck materials and settling on Trex, which looks brand new after 2 years, now I did see that it had gone through its growing pains and the newer material is vastly improved. Azek should perform just as well but construction is important as someone I know had to remove his because spans were too large and caused sagging. |
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On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 2:19:53 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 5/28/2019 3:01 PM, Pat wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:14:41 -0500, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... I wouldn't lump all non-wood products into "Trex or the like". I have docks finished with Trex and do not care for how they have fared, but I have a large deck made with Azek and love it. Zero signs of wear after multiple years and no problems with heat or sagging. I bet Trex has improved as well. (My Trex docks are 11 years old. The Azek deck is only 3 years old.) A few couple of years ago evaluating deck materials and settling on Trex, which looks brand new after 2 years, now I did see that it had gone through its growing pains and the newer material is vastly improved. Azek should perform just as well but construction is important as someone I know had to remove his because spans were too large and caused sagging. IDK what brand it is, but the boardwalks here were rebuilt with synthetic that looks like Trex after Superstorm Sandy and it's held up well, looks great. |
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 2:19:53 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: On 5/28/2019 3:01 PM, Pat wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:14:41 -0500, dpb wrote: Replacing old entryway; adding covered porch (~7.5' X 18'). Other porches are just 3" T&G pine painted that has sorta' held up excepting paint is difficult to keep on and they do tend to split/warp some... Builder suggested cedar; I wonder about being somewhat soft for main trafficway... Any other suggestions, ideas? I'm not going Trex or the like; I do NOT like that it gets so hot and limber in the sun and while has some cover will have the sun until midday and it's definitely hot well before noon in SW KS... Are there any of the exotics being pushed as decking now that aren't terribly dark in color? None that come to mind right now aren't... Suggestions welcomed as well as experiences... I wouldn't lump all non-wood products into "Trex or the like". I have docks finished with Trex and do not care for how they have fared, but I have a large deck made with Azek and love it. Zero signs of wear after multiple years and no problems with heat or sagging. I bet Trex has improved as well. (My Trex docks are 11 years old. The Azek deck is only 3 years old.) A few couple of years ago evaluating deck materials and settling on Trex, which looks brand new after 2 years, now I did see that it had gone through its growing pains and the newer material is vastly improved. Azek should perform just as well but construction is important as someone I know had to remove his because spans were too large and caused sagging. IDK what brand it is, but the boardwalks here were rebuilt with synthetic that looks like Trex after Superstorm Sandy and it's held up well, looks great. Trex is OK if you can find nominal 2" material (1.5 actual). That is a real lumber yard thing, not the BORG. |
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