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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
Can anyone recommend a quality storage shed kit?
Looking for something around 9ftx16ft. I don't want to build from scratch because I think it would take too long to make all the cuts and get all the parts. I wouldn't mind putting together a kit , but have read some horror stories on reviews of kits delivered with significant damage, missing parts, badly warped wood, etc. All advice appreciated. Regards, Theodore |
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On 03/25/2019 10:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:07:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Can anyone recommend a quality storage shed kit? Looking for something around 9ftx16ft. I don't want to build from scratch because I think it would take too long to make all the cuts and get all the parts. I wouldn't mind putting together a kit , but have read some horror stories on reviews of kits delivered with significant damage, missing parts, badly warped wood, etc. All advice appreciated. Regards, Theodore If I was building a "normal" storage shed today I'd be looking REAL CLOSE at the resin sheds like Royal, Suncast, Rubbermaid, Lifetime, etc. I've got a resin shed and it's held together good except from one freak microburst that disassembled it. I put it back together with some sturdier fasteners at key points. I also have one of the sheet metal variety in Arizona that's held up for close to thirty years. If you get one of those, have a helper on hand and pick a still day. They're rugged enough when they are assembled. I put mine together on New Years day. My friend had a major hangover and the wind picks up after sunrise in Arizona. Wasn't fun. A power screwdriver would be good too. |
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
Another advantage is if you bevel the deck beam ends like skis you can drag the shed to another location. Not that anybody ever wished they'd build the shed someplace other than where it is... I've moved both of my garden sheds 8 x 8 9 x 12 board & batten all by myself - jack & roll easy as pie. And hardly a mark in the lawn. When I built them, I just copied what was on display at the local lumber yard. John T. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
A lot depends on what state you are in and what the building code
says. Local building code is such that as long as I put the shed on blocks (i.e. not a poured concrete foundation floor slab), it doesn't count as a structure that requires inspection. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
Be careful how you build.
Where I live, if sheds have footings and a concrete floor, the square footage is calculated and the structure is taxed at the same rate as a house.Â* OTOH, build a pressure-treated floating deck and then build a shed on top of that and you'll avoid additional property taxes Yes, same for me. Therefore, shed will be raised on 4-6 (or however many needed) individual concrete blocks. No poured floor slab. No foundation. |
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 09:58:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/26/2019 12:07 AM, wrote: Can anyone recommend a quality storage shed kit? Looking for something around 9ftx16ft. I don't want to build from scratch because I think it would take too long to make all the cuts and get all the parts. I wouldn't mind putting together a kit , but have read some horror stories on reviews of kits delivered with significant damage, missing parts, badly warped wood, etc. All advice appreciated. Regards, Theodore Comes down to money versus ambition. I bought a complete shed, 12 x 16, and had it delivered, set in place. Done, but cost more than a kit. Much easier and faster though. And for many hangers-on on this list, much better constructed as well. |
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On 3/26/2019 12:30 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:07:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Can anyone recommend a quality storage shed kit? Looking for something around 9ftx16ft. I don't want to build from scratch because I think it would take too long to make all the cuts and get all the parts. I wouldn't mind putting together a kit , but have read some horror stories on reviews of kits delivered with significant damage, missing parts, badly warped wood, etc. All advice appreciated. Regards, Theodore If I was building a "normal" storage shed today I'd be looking REAL CLOSE at the resin sheds like Royal, Suncast, Rubbermaid, Lifetime, etc. I've had a Rubbermaid for years. Still holding strong. No worries of rotting, decaying or anything associated with aging wood. |
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions)
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote:
Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? |
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"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. |
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 15:47:08 +1100, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote: What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. You are obviously like a dog who needs to **** in ANY thread just so he can smell his own **** in as many places as possible, senile Rot! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote:
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. Most of the single story commercial building is done that way here, by people paid quite a bit more than the minimum wage. A few houses too. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1:03:10 PM UTC-4, Jac Brown wrote:
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. Most of the single story commercial building is done that way here, by people paid quite a bit more than the minimum wage. A few houses too. On something as small as a shed you could probably DIY. There is also ICF construction but you'd need to hire a concrete truck to pour, I would think. Either one would give you a very solid shed. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
"TimR" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 1:03:10 PM UTC-4, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. Most of the single story commercial building is done that way here, by people paid quite a bit more than the minimum wage. A few houses too. On something as small as a shed you could probably DIY. Yeah, the problem is tho with sheds they arent very often sited with the full wall height of space beside each wall. There is also ICF construction but you'd need to hire a concrete truck to pour, I would think. Hardly anyone mixes concrete with a mixer anymore, even for stuff like a driveway. Either one would give you a very solid shed. Yeah and ICF would work well in places with cold winters and here with stinking hot summers. We can get 10 days in a row over 100F and this summer had 3 of those. Not much fun in a shed that isnt well insulated on days like that, |
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:02:58 +1100, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote: FLUSH senile troll**** 02:58 am AGAIN? LMAO So, why can't you sleep in, you clinically insane senile nutter? I mean, you do it EVERY DAY! Is it because this here is the ONLY place where you can keep talking to people without them being able to run away from you, you senile pest? BG -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rot Speed!
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 05:01:18 +1100, Jac Brow, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote: winters and here with stinking hot summers. We can get 10 days in a row over 100F and this summer had 3 of those. Not much fun in a shed that isnt well insulated on days like that, Obviously your head suffered from several heat strokes, senile Rot! -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rot: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On 03/27/2019 11:02 AM, Jac Brown wrote:
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. Most of the single story commercial building is done that way here, by people paid quite a bit more than the minimum wage. A few houses too. I've never seen it. I'm not arguing, just saying I haven't seen the technique. http://tiltup.com/ "Tilt-up construction allows general contractors to build a wide range of commercial buildings more quickly and with lower construction costs than what is typical for traditional masonry construction projects. Texas, California and Florida are currently the most popular states for tilt-up concrete construction. In northern states with more severe winter climates, Precast concrete buildings are more popular." That explains a lot since I've lived my life in the north, but I haven't seen precast around here either. https://slate.com/business/2018/03/t...-go-wrong.html Few bugs to work out for bridge construction, I guess. In one of my freshman classes at college they showed a film of the Tacoma Narrows bridge as an object lesson in how not to do it. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 11:02 AM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. Most of the single story commercial building is done that way here, by people paid quite a bit more than the minimum wage. A few houses too. I've never seen it. I'm not arguing, just saying I haven't seen the technique. http://tiltup.com/ "Tilt-up construction allows general contractors to build a wide range of commercial buildings more quickly and with lower construction costs than what is typical for traditional masonry construction projects. Texas, California and Florida are currently the most popular states for tilt-up concrete construction. In northern states with more severe winter climates, Precast concrete buildings are more popular." That explains a lot since I've lived my life in the north, but I haven't seen precast around here either. Yeah, ours is mostly like your south/texas etc. https://slate.com/business/2018/03/t...-go-wrong.html Few bugs to work out for bridge construction, I guess. Yeah, we had one of those ourselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Gate_Bridge#Collapse In one of my freshman classes at college they showed a film of the Tacoma Narrows bridge as an object lesson in how not to do it. Yeah, I have recently watched an entire series on the most famous bridges around the world. Pretty spectacular failure. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:13:00 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 03/27/2019 11:02 AM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 10:47 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/26/2019 01:21 PM, TimR wrote: Do you have enough room to do a tilt up? (need wall height and a little more in all directions) What are you tilting up? Concrete walls poured locally. that sounds like a 'hold my beer and watch this' moment. Most of the single story commercial building is done that way here, by people paid quite a bit more than the minimum wage. A few houses too. I've never seen it. I'm not arguing, just saying I haven't seen the technique. http://tiltup.com/ "Tilt-up construction allows general contractors to build a wide range of commercial buildings more quickly and with lower construction costs than what is typical for traditional masonry construction projects. Texas, California and Florida are currently the most popular states for tilt-up concrete construction. In northern states with more severe winter climates, Precast concrete buildings are more popular." That explains a lot since I've lived my life in the north, but I haven't seen precast around here either. As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. |
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:30:31 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Yeah, I have recently watched an entire series on the most famous bridges around the world. Pretty spectacular failure. TV, yes! That's where you lonely forsaken senile asshole get all your senile "education" from (also your imaginary "mates" whose stories you keep re-telling on Usenet)! LOL -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? Cant see that working because of the curved hull required. Not convinced it would work for a barge either, hard to do the joints. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On 3/28/2019 10:44 PM, Jac Brown wrote:
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? Cant see that working because of the curved hull required. Not convinced it would work for a barge either, hard to do the joints. Duh, its been done https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_ship http://www.concreteships.org/ships/ww2/ |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 3/28/2019 10:44 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? Cant see that working because of the curved hull required. Not convinced it would work for a barge either, hard to do the joints. Duh, its been done https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_ship http://www.concreteships.org/ships/ww2/ I wasn’t talking about concrete ships, of course those have been don’t. I was talking about push up concrete slabs for walls, can't see that working for a normal ship or even a barge for the reason I stated. But with 20/20 hindsight when not so early in the morning, he may have been talking about YTong concrete that floats. Not convinced about that either because those blocks are autoclaved and its hard to see how you would make a viable boat out of concrete blocks. The mortar between block doesn’t glue the blocks together, its actually just a way of bedding the edges so they don’t rock or leak. |
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 20:29:40 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? That may be the same stuff. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:44:30 +1100, "Jac Brown"
wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? Cant see that working because of the curved hull required. Not convinced it would work for a barge either, hard to do the joints. They could cast the whole hull in one shot.. Put some steel in it and you have something. |
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 15:01:22 +1100, "Jac Brown"
wrote: "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On 3/28/2019 10:44 PM, Jac Brown wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? Cant see that working because of the curved hull required. Not convinced it would work for a barge either, hard to do the joints. Duh, its been done https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_ship http://www.concreteships.org/ships/ww2/ I wasnt talking about concrete ships, of course those have been dont. I was talking about push up concrete slabs for walls, can't see that working for a normal ship or even a barge for the reason I stated. But with 20/20 hindsight when not so early in the morning, he may have been talking about YTong concrete that floats. Not convinced about that either because those blocks are autoclaved and its hard to see how you would make a viable boat out of concrete blocks. The mortar between block doesnt glue the blocks together, its actually just a way of bedding the edges so they dont rock or leak. I suppose I might be able to find a picture but I know a core drilled piece from a Ytong wall floated in my pool. This **** feels like white pine. |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 20:29:40 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? That may be the same stuff. No its not, YTong concrete is autoclaved, ferro cement boats can't be, they are too big for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocl...rated_concrete |
Recommendations for a storage shed kit?
wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:44:30 +1100, "Jac Brown" wrote: "rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/27/2019 10:27 PM, wrote: As your article says, Florida loves tilt up. It is a fast way to get to the wind code. They were in love with Y Tong concrete for a while but it went away just as fast. I am not sure what happened there. That is interesting stuff (air entrained) it floats. I wonder if you could adapt it to ferro-cement boat building? Cant see that working because of the curved hull required. Not convinced it would work for a barge either, hard to do the joints. They could cast the whole hull in one shot.. Put some steel in it and you have something. Sure, but that's not YTong concrete. Its autoclaved. |
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