Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?

--
Pete Cresswell

In article , lid
says...

Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?




This iseems to be the case of if you have to ask, you need to learn more
before you start.


Just a general rule to start with is it will take 100 amps for every .1
inches. If that welder you are looking at is truely 80 amps the
thickest you will normally weld is going to be .08 ihches thick.

I would think the angle iron would be thicker than that.


While thicker material can be welded than that, usually it is built up
in layers.

You did not specify if it was a wire welder or one that you use the
sticks with.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:26:03 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?


Here is a great video on choosing your first welder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVZynf3Wbok

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:26:03 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?

You probably should start with a $100 MIG machine. They are more
forgiving than a stick welder.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:13:07 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:26:03 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?

You probably should start with a $100 MIG machine. They are more
forgiving than a stick welder.
A lot easier to make a good looking lousy weld with a MIG.

A lot easier to make a "grapey" weld that holds with a stick.

I'll take a stick over a wire feed ANY day.YOU have a lot more control
with a stick.(without fritzing around with controls). Set your
amperage, and the rest is controlled by your hand.

On 04/30/2018 07:36 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
I'll take a stick over a wire feed ANY day.YOU have a lot more control
with a stick.(without fritzing around with controls). Set your
amperage, and the rest is controlled by your hand.

And for someone not familiar with an arc welder, mostly what's going to
get welded is the stick to the work...

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:20:41 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/30/2018 07:36 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
I'll take a stick over a wire feed ANY day.YOU have a lot more control
with a stick.(without fritzing around with controls). Set your
amperage, and the rest is controlled by your hand.

And for someone not familiar with an arc welder, mostly what's going to
get welded is the stick to the work...

I found stick the easiest by far. Use the right rod and amperage - DC
stinger negative is the easiest.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:56:35 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:20:41 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/30/2018 07:36 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
I'll take a stick over a wire feed ANY day.YOU have a lot more control
with a stick.(without fritzing around with controls). Set your
amperage, and the rest is controlled by your hand.

And for someone not familiar with an arc welder, mostly what's going to
get welded is the stick to the work...

I found stick the easiest by far. Use the right rod and amperage - DC
stinger negative is the easiest.

You are not going to find a DC stick machine in his budget. It will be
an AC "buzz box" and I know real welders who have trouble using mine.

On 4/30/18 4:26 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?

Aren't there any welding shops in your area? A business that makes
the odds and ends that people need from time to time and fixes
stuff?
Are power outages frequent enough that you'd want a back up generator?
There are welder/generators that would do both. This one is $3000.
Example:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-Electric-Outback-185-Welder-Generator-12-75-HP-Kohler-Engine-5200W/400809955381?hash=item5d52229035:g:qtcAAOSwPzhaGyC 4

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 10:04:20 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:56:35 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:20:41 -0600, rbowman wrote:

On 04/30/2018 07:36 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
I'll take a stick over a wire feed ANY day.YOU have a lot more control
with a stick.(without fritzing around with controls). Set your
amperage, and the rest is controlled by your hand.

And for someone not familiar with an arc welder, mostly what's going to
get welded is the stick to the work...

I found stick the easiest by far. Use the right rod and amperage - DC
stinger negative is the easiest.

You are not going to find a DC stick machine in his budget. It will be
an AC "buzz box" and I know real welders who have trouble using mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VL_ggERQjU&t=59s

https://www.google.com/search?q=linc...ncoln+225+ dc

Per Ralph Mowery:

You did not specify if it was a wire welder or one that you use the
sticks with.

Sticks
--
Pete Cresswell

On Tue, 1 May 2018 07:43:03 -0700 (PDT), Davej
wrote:

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 10:04:20 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:56:35 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:20:41 -0600, rbowman wrote:

On 04/30/2018 07:36 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
I'll take a stick over a wire feed ANY day.YOU have a lot more control
with a stick.(without fritzing around with controls). Set your
amperage, and the rest is controlled by your hand.

And for someone not familiar with an arc welder, mostly what's going to
get welded is the stick to the work...

I found stick the easiest by far. Use the right rod and amperage - DC
stinger negative is the easiest.

You are not going to find a DC stick machine in his budget. It will be
an AC "buzz box" and I know real welders who have trouble using mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VL_ggERQjU&t=59s

https://www.google.com/search?q=linc...ncoln+225+ dc
I bought a good hardly used Lincoln 180 ac/dc "tombstone" box with
about 25 ft of cable, and a real nice rod holder for less than $75.

They are out there. And you'll get your money out of it 5 or 10 years
down the road if you decide you don't need it any more or move up to
something better.

And if someone is a "real welder"he will not have a problem laying a
good bead with even a straight AC Lincoln.

Jerome Tews wrote:

You should be arrested for even thinking of such a thing.
Apparently you dont think much of your boat, nor the lives of the other
drivers behind you, when that trailer breaks apart, spreading pieces of
your boat all over the highway while you're doing 70mph.


That raises a question. Don't boat trailers need a state license
plate (which might presume an inspection, or something along
those lines)?

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.



You want to make a boat trailer with a piece of worthless junk from
Harbor Freight?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA....


You need to work on your reedin' compehendashun, Jethro ..
Ha Ha Ha Ha HaHaHaHaaa
John T.

On 5/1/2018 at 11:16:59 PM, Jerome Tews wrote:


On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:26:03 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will
probably only be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?

You want to make a boat trailer with a piece of worthless junk from
Harbor Freight?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA....


You are an idiot, read his post again. He wants to make a dolly for
his boat trailer, he doesn't want to make a trailer.

If you don't know what a trailer dolly is, try using Google before
making a fool of yourself, again.

On Wed, 02 May 2018 01:16:59 -0500, Jerome Tews
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:26:03 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Two tasks:

- Join 2 pieces of 1" steel pipe

- Join multiple sections of angle iron to make
a boat trailer dolly.


I am thinking el cheapo Harbor Freight because this device will probably only
be used a few times.

But what size?

I see various welders from $100 to $300+, but they are all 240v.

The only 120v one I see is 80 amps:
https://www.harborfreight.com/quickv...index/id/10859

Will 80A suffice for the tasks described?

You want to make a boat trailer with a piece of worthless junk from
Harbor Freight?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA....

You should be arrested for even thinking of such a thing.
Apparently you dont think much of your boat, nor the lives of the other
drivers behind you, when that trailer breaks apart, spreading pieces of
your boat all over the highway while you're doing 70mph.

I wonder how many people will die in the wreck? And how much damage will
be done to the other vehicles....

Harbor Freight welders (like all their junk tools), are made to make a
half assed weld in a broken hose reel, or fix a crack on your lawn mower
handle. That's about all they will do, if they even do that....




He said a "boat tdailer dolly" which I suspect means a rig to manually
move the boat trailer around in storage - but not entirely clear.

On Wed, 2 May 2018 02:58:50 -0400, Bill wrote:

Jerome Tews wrote:

You should be arrested for even thinking of such a thing.
Apparently you dont think much of your boat, nor the lives of the other
drivers behind you, when that trailer breaks apart, spreading pieces of
your boat all over the highway while you're doing 70mph.


That raises a question. Don't boat trailers need a state license
plate (which might presume an inspection, or something along
those lines)?
He didn't say he was building a trailer - and it is trivial in most
places to licencea home-made trailer in any case.

Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2018 02:58:50 -0400, Bill wrote:

Jerome Tews wrote:

You should be arrested for even thinking of such a thing.
Apparently you dont think much of your boat, nor the lives of the other
drivers behind you, when that trailer breaks apart, spreading pieces of
your boat all over the highway while you're doing 70mph.


That raises a question. Don't boat trailers need a state license
plate (which might presume an inspection, or something along
those lines)?
He didn't say he was building a trailer - and it is trivial in most
places to licencea home-made trailer in any case.


It's hard to believe that the insurance companies are content
with that. There must be hundreds of ways to poorly design a
trailer. ; )

On Wed, 2 May 2018 19:06:05 -0400, Bill wrote:

Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2018 02:58:50 -0400, Bill wrote:

Jerome Tews wrote:

You should be arrested for even thinking of such a thing.
Apparently you dont think much of your boat, nor the lives of the other
drivers behind you, when that trailer breaks apart, spreading pieces of
your boat all over the highway while you're doing 70mph.


That raises a question. Don't boat trailers need a state license
plate (which might presume an inspection, or something along
those lines)?
He didn't say he was building a trailer - and it is trivial in most
places to licencea home-made trailer in any case.


It's hard to believe that the insurance companies are content
with that. There must be hundreds of ways to poorly design a
trailer. ; )

I am always amazed that trailers don't get more scrutiny but I doubt
they get inspected in most states. If we are talking about a salt
water boat trailer they don't stay "new" very long no matter how well
built they started out.