On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt (parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference engines").

FWIW, around here car repair shops are a rip-off. Much better to have the cars under warranty so the manufacturer has to deal with their crooked dealerships repair bill.

Which is why I buy my own parts to avoid their crooked markup. Their profit should be clearly in the labour charge, not the parts.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:51:57 +0100, "Jimmy Wilkinson Knife"
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt (parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference engines").

Most aren't.

FWIW, around here car repair shops are a rip-off. Much better to have the cars under warranty so the manufacturer has to deal with their crooked dealerships repair bill.

Which is why I buy my own parts to avoid their crooked markup. Their profit should be clearly in the labour charge, not the parts.

Why does it matter to you? Profit is profit. What they charge is
what they charge.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:36:18 -0400, , the brain-damaged,
troll-feeding cretin, blabbered again:


Why does it matter to you? Profit is profit. What they charge is
what they charge.

Do you feel less senile when you engage in silly "discussions" with an
approved congenital idiot like Peter Hucker, Yankietard? BG

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.


More and more are going to chains again, and non-interference
engines are also becoming more common.

Chains don't last forever either - I used to change quite a few
timing chains on inline 6 and V8 engines - and LONG before 100,000
miles. Quite a few before 60,000

Mitsubishi 2600 4 cyls (used by Chrysler for years) had 0ver 6 feet
of chain in them and they were notorious for dropping the chain that
drove the balance shafts and the oil pump - letting the engine
continue to run with no oil pressure and self destruct.

On 04/25/2018 10:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.


More and more are going to chains again, and non-interference
engines are also becoming more common.

Chains don't last forever either - I used to change quite a few
timing chains on inline 6 and V8 engines - and LONG before 100,000
miles. Quite a few before 60,000

Nothing lasts forever but the operant words are 'used to'. I used to
change a lot of things on engines forty years ago.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:30:39 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 10:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.


More and more are going to chains again, and non-interference
engines are also becoming more common.

Chains don't last forever either - I used to change quite a few
timing chains on inline 6 and V8 engines - and LONG before 100,000
miles. Quite a few before 60,000

Nothing lasts forever but the operant words are 'used to'. I used to
change a lot of things on engines forty years ago.

Late model Bimmer Diesels.
BMW N20 up until 2013?
2007-11 Mini Cooper
Chevy EcoTecs
Nissan Jukes.
Nissan Maxima
any VQ35 or VQ40 Nissan engine
Some Mercedes inline 6 AND V8 up into the '90s.
VW 2.0 TSI
LOTS of late model engines out there seeing timing chain and/or
tensioner problems

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:18:18 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.


More and more are going to chains again, and non-interference
engines are also becoming more common.

Chains don't last forever either - I used to change quite a few
timing chains on inline 6 and V8 engines - and LONG before 100,000
miles. Quite a few before 60,000

Mitsubishi 2600 4 cyls (used by Chrysler for years) had 0ver 6 feet
of chain in them and they were notorious for dropping the chain that
drove the balance shafts and the oil pump - letting the engine
continue to run with no oil pressure and self destruct.

Anything that can break an engine (including overheating which none seem to have protection for) should cut the fuel immediately with a sensor. Basic obvious design. How stupid are people who design cars?

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On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:22:01 AM UTC-4, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:18:18 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.


More and more are going to chains again, and non-interference
engines are also becoming more common.

Chains don't last forever either - I used to change quite a few
timing chains on inline 6 and V8 engines - and LONG before 100,000
miles. Quite a few before 60,000

Mitsubishi 2600 4 cyls (used by Chrysler for years) had 0ver 6 feet
of chain in them and they were notorious for dropping the chain that
drove the balance shafts and the oil pump - letting the engine
continue to run with no oil pressure and self destruct.

Anything that can break an engine (including overheating which none seem to have protection for) should cut the fuel immediately with a sensor. Basic obvious design. How stupid are people who design cars?



I see, so we should have a sensor that will detect a broken timing chain
and stop the engine, which is running at 3000 RPMs, in time so that the
piston won't hit a valve. You should work on that.

We do have sensors and warning lights and messages for many of the
serious, common things, eg over temp, low oil pressure, low oil level.
They work for me. But then you're the guy who says you never change
the oil, only add oil when it's half empty, etc. Serious people who
contemplate such things also weigh the issue of disabling a car because
it's gone over temperature, versus letting you continue to drive it,
at your own risk, if you happen to be in a tunnel, fleeing a fire,
or driving through a high crime area. Already, many of the incidents
of these sensors giving warnings are false alarms, due to the sensor
being faulty. How many more would you like to add? Sounds to me
like another one of your solutions in search of a real problem.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT), tardo_4, the notorious,
troll-feeding Yankietard, driveled again:

Sounds to me like another one of your solutions in search of a real
problem.

You sound to me like yet another really demented, troll-feeding, senile
Yankietard, tardo_4!

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:38:53 +0100, trader_4 wrote:

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:22:01 AM UTC-4, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:18:18 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 04/25/2018 11:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 04:08:51 +0100, Bob wrote:

On 4/23/2018 11:18 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
One sepentine belt and tensioner -$150

Obviously you do your own repairs. Good for you but if you don't have
your own shop and a decent set of tools, the economics change
drastically.

Back when I used to have one of those ****ing engines that would
self-destruct when the timing belt broke, the cost to replace the belt
(parts and labor) was very near $900...and I could never find a
competent shop to do it cheaper. And the damn belts
had to be changed every 60,000 miles.

Are you saying snapped timing belts is no longer a problem? I thought
most modern engines hated a snapped belt (they're called "interference
engines").

My engine doesn't have a belt.


More and more are going to chains again, and non-interference
engines are also becoming more common.

Chains don't last forever either - I used to change quite a few
timing chains on inline 6 and V8 engines - and LONG before 100,000
miles. Quite a few before 60,000

Mitsubishi 2600 4 cyls (used by Chrysler for years) had 0ver 6 feet
of chain in them and they were notorious for dropping the chain that
drove the balance shafts and the oil pump - letting the engine
continue to run with no oil pressure and self destruct.

Anything that can break an engine (including overheating which none seem to have protection for) should cut the fuel immediately with a sensor. Basic obvious design. How stupid are people who design cars?

I see, so we should have a sensor that will detect a broken timing chain
and stop the engine, which is running at 3000 RPMs, in time so that the
piston won't hit a valve. You should work on that.

It should know it's on it's way out, or perhaps they should install a chain that lasts the life of the car instead of a piece of **** that needs replacing all the time?

We do have sensors and warning lights and messages for many of the
serious, common things, eg over temp, low oil pressure, low oil level.
They work for me.

I've yet to see a car that does anything with over temperature except expecting you to notice the guage is higher.

But then you're the guy who says you never change
the oil, only add oil when it's half empty, etc. Serious people who
contemplate such things also weigh the issue of disabling a car because
it's gone over temperature, versus letting you continue to drive it,
at your own risk, if you happen to be in a tunnel, fleeing a fire,
or driving through a high crime area.

If the oil isn't running smoothly, I expect a warning light. Flow sensor? Pretty easy.

Already, many of the incidents
of these sensors giving warnings are false alarms, due to the sensor
being faulty.

Then use decent sensors instead of Chinese ****.

How many more would you like to add? Sounds to me
like another one of your solutions in search of a real problem.

The problem is a car driver doesn't want to keep mollycoddling the car. I expect to buy a piece of machinery and have it work. If I hire an apprentice, I don't want to have to keep checking he's ok, he should tell me when he needs a lunch break. Same applies to machinery.

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One's on the cover of Playboy and the other's on the cover of National Geographic.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:51:19 -0600, lowbrowman, yet another endlessly
driveling senile idiot, blabbered again:



My engine doesn't have a belt.

HE doesn't have any underwear ...and you obviously like that, cocksucker!
BG


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"Never had this problem as I don't wear any underwear. Do you have anal
seepage? Does your penis dribble? What is underwear for? Since nobody can
see through your jeans/trousers/whatever, why do you need yet another
layer?"
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