Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.

On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 9:05:44 PM UTC-6, mysterious traveler wrote:
Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.


I used kerosene heaters a lot when I had a shop back in the last century. The cleaner the fuel, the less smoke and odor. I remember at the time that Home Depot and Lowes were selling an expensive crystal clear low odor fuel for kerosene heaters. It was on the aisle with the Coleman lantern and camping stove fuel, then on a sidewall at the end of the aisle in OMG expensive 5gal cans. I bought my kerosene from an independent gas station that had a kerosene pump and I'd fill my own 5gal cans. I also used the kerosene for cleaning parts so I had it around in warm weather too. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Warm Monster

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious traveler"
wrote:

Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.


It will smoke the place up. Kerosene is a much cleaner burning grade
of distillate than diesel. Shop around. Rural King will sell you 2.5
gallons for around $15. (if you have one) but finding a place that
pumps it will get you down around the price of diesel.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious
traveler" wrote:

Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.

This is the sort of question whose words have clear meanings and only
one meaning each, very suitable for google.

https://www.google.com/search?q=burn...erosene+heater

And indeed, some of the hits are about your exact question.

wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious
traveler" wrote:
Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.
This is the sort of question whose words have clear meanings and only
one meaning each, very suitable for google.
https://www.google.com/search?q=burn...erosene+heater
And indeed, some of the hits are about your exact question.



Thanks for the link. I'll get some additive tomorrow, and some rubbing alcohol.

We actually utilized this newsgroup for what it was intended.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Jan 2018 23:43:18 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious traveler"
wrote:

Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.


It will smoke the place up. Kerosene is a much cleaner burning grade
of distillate than diesel. Shop around. Rural King will sell you 2.5
gallons for around $15. (if you have one) but finding a place that
pumps it will get you down around the price of diesel.

When I needed a gallon to clean a motorcycle gas tank, I had a heck of a
lot of trouble finding it,

A hardware store on Pulaski Highway, the other side of town, had had it
but had changed and now wouldn't sell it except in a iirc blue
container, and I didn't want to buy a special container.

I found it at a gas station 4 miles away, but later when I went back,
they didn't seem to have it anymore.

And then they rebuilt the Shell station, the station closest to my
house, and I noticed a kerosen pump there. However now I don't need
any. I didn't notice the price, but I will check.

"mysterious traveler" wrote:
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25
Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious
traveler" wrote:
Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel
like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use
it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not
vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel. This is the sort of question
whose words have clear meanings and only
one meaning each, very suitable for google.
https://www.google.com/search?q=burn...erosene+heater
And indeed, some of the hits are about your exact question.


Thanks for the link. I'll get some additive tomorrow, and some rubbing alcohol.

We actually utilized this newsgroup for what it was intended.

Not rubbing alcohol, denatured, dry gas, don't know about methanol. Little
water as possible. I think diesel is more expensive than kerosene here, at
pump about $3.00.

Greg

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious traveler"
wrote in

Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.

I would run an extension cord out to the storage shed if possible.
Electricty is generally much cheaper than kero. For example, in my
area assuming

kerosene heat content = 135k btu/gal
1 kwh = 3412 btu

then 1 gal kero = 40kwh = $4 at $0.10/kwh

which is what I pay for electricity. Just scale the $4 number by your
relative cost per kwh for electricity.
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On 01/25/2018 08:05 PM, mysterious traveler wrote:

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.

#1 diesel is closer to kerosene. Depending on where you live you may be
able to find it. It used to be available in northern states where #2
diesel gels when it gets below zero but most stations now sell 'winter
blend' that has anti-gelling additives.

wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 25 Jan 2018 23:43:18 -0500,
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious traveler"
wrote:

Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.


It will smoke the place up. Kerosene is a much cleaner burning grade
of distillate than diesel. Shop around. Rural King will sell you 2.5
gallons for around $15. (if you have one) but finding a place that
pumps it will get you down around the price of diesel.
When I needed a gallon to clean a motorcycle gas tank, I had a heck of a
lot of trouble finding it,

A hardware store on Pulaski Highway, the other side of town, had had it
but had changed and now wouldn't sell it except in a iirc blue
container, and I didn't want to buy a special container.

I bought a can of blue spray paint to make a white five gallon container look like a genuine kerosene container.

I found it at a gas station 4 miles away, but later when I went back,
they didn't seem to have it anymore.
And then they rebuilt the Shell station, the station closest to my
house, and I noticed a kerosen pump there. However now I don't need
any. I didn't notice the price, but I will check.

wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:05:35 -0600, "mysterious traveler"
wrote in
Has anyone ever used diesel in a kerosene heater, such as a heatmate model 400?

Paying $10.00 a gallon for heater kerosene doesn't break me, but I feel like they're just gouging customers, so I thought I'd ask before I use it, in case it would make a lot of smoke and toxic fumes. It's not vented to the outside. It will be used in a storage building, 25' x 15'.

I don't want to ruin the heater using it.

Kerosene is a cleaner form of diesel.
I would run an extension cord out to the storage shed if possible.
Electricty is generally much cheaper than kero. For example, in my
area assuming
kerosene heat content = 135k btu/gal
1 kwh = 3412 btu
then 1 gal kero = 40kwh = $4 at $0.10/kwh
which is what I pay for electricity. Just scale the $4 number by your
relative cost per kwh for electricity.
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and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
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I plan to run electricity out there. I've already gotten the electric cable and pipe to run it through. I need to hire a backhoe for the 65' ditch.