For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?


Thanks!

David

On 11/23/2010 4:13 PM, David Combs wrote:
For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?


Thanks!

David



I've never had to store kerosene for a long period so I Goggled it.

http://www.harvestoutfitters.com/products/list/3

TDD

On Nov 23, 4:13*pm, (David Combs) wrote:
For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. *Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. *But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?

Thanks!

David

You a prepper?

On Nov 23, 4:13*pm, (David Combs) wrote:
For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?

Thanks!

David

If the power is that unreliable, I'd be making plans to move or switch
electric providers.

Have a great day,
Andy

http://intouch.org/magazine/daily-devotional
http://www.happynews.com

"Andy" wrote
Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?

Thanks!

David

If the power is that unreliable, I'd be making plans to move or switch
electric providers.

Have a great day,
Andy

Just how do you change electric providers?

On 11/23/2010 9:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Andy" wrote
Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?

Thanks!

David

If the power is that unreliable, I'd be making plans to move or switch
electric providers.

Have a great day,
Andy

Just how do you change electric providers?

Solar power, electricity from God, geothermal, electricity from The
Devil. Perhaps use both with a Yin-Yang distributor to keep good and
evil in balance. Get it installed by that little Mexican electrician,
Jesus and you're good to go. 8-)

TDD

On Nov 23, 8:40*pm, Andy wrote:
On Nov 23, 4:13*pm, (David Combs) wrote:

For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.
Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?

Thanks!

David

If the power is that unreliable, I'd be making plans to move or switch
electric providers.

Have a great day,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * Andy

http://intouch.org/magazine/daily-de....happynews.com


Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military higher-
ups are saying. Where are any of the electric providers going to get
fuel to produce electricity then? Where are you going to get food when
the trucks stop running and the grocery shelves are empty?

-C-

On Nov 24, 10:14*am, Country wrote:
Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military higher-
ups are saying. Where are any of the electric providers going to get
fuel to produce electricity then? Where are you going to get food when
the trucks stop running and the grocery shelves are empty?

Can you cite your sources on this?

Keep in mind they don't call "military intelligence" an oxymoron for
nothing.

On Nov 24, 10:24*am, wrote:
On Nov 24, 10:14*am, Country wrote:

Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military higher-
ups are saying. Where are any of the electric providers going to get
fuel to produce electricity then? Where are you going to get food when
the trucks stop running and the grocery shelves are empty?

Can you cite your sources on this?

Keep in mind they don't call "military intelligence" an oxymoron for
nothing.


I almost jumped on that because I remember seeing reports several
times over the last few years from the military brass warning about
severe oil shortages. But why would I bother if you think Military
Intelligence is an oxymoron. That means you are already prepared not
to believe it.

Just take a look around. Read the news. Things in the US ain't as
stable as they used to be. I hope nothing serious ever happens but if
it does I don't want to be sitting around like those people in New
Orleans during Katrina waiting for the government to save me.

-C-

Country wrote:

If the power is that unreliable, I'd be making plans to move or
switch electric providers.

Have a great day,
Andy

http://intouch.org/magazine/daily-de....happynews.com


Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military
higher- ups are saying. Where are any of the electric providers going
to get fuel to produce electricity then? Where are you going to get
food when the trucks stop running and the grocery shelves are empty?


Electricity generation fuel is a lock. Half of all electricity is generated
by coal, none of which is imported and of which we have a 200-year supply on
hand. The rest of our electricity is generated by hydroelectric, nuclear,
and (mostly) natural gas. We do import a bunch of NG, but we don't need to.
We've got oodles of the stuff readily available.

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:



Electricity generation fuel is a lock. Half of all electricity is generated
by coal, none of which is imported and of which we have a 200-year supply on
hand. The rest of our electricity is generated by hydroelectric, nuclear,
and (mostly) natural gas. We do import a bunch of NG, but we don't need to.
We've got oodles of the stuff readily available.

You just keep telling yourself there's nothing to worry about, and then
watch the terrorists break into the coal mines and put anthrax in there.
Poof. Poison electricity, all over the grid.

Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:



Electricity generation fuel is a lock. Half of all electricity is
generated by coal, none of which is imported and of which we have a
200-year supply on hand. The rest of our electricity is generated by
hydroelectric, nuclear, and (mostly) natural gas. We do import a
bunch of NG, but we don't need to. We've got oodles of the stuff
readily available.

You just keep telling yourself there's nothing to worry about, and
then watch the terrorists break into the coal mines and put anthrax
in there. Poof. Poison electricity, all over the grid.

I didn't say there wasn't anything to worry about.

I said we didn't import irreplaceable fuel for electricity generation!

The vast majority of imported oil is used for transportation. We COULD
replace oil from problematic states with domestic oil were it not for
environmentalist's concerns.


You can't put anthrax in (most) coal mines with any success. Most coal is
mined in open pit mines.

In article ,
Country wrote:

...snipped...
Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military higher-
ups are saying.
...snipped...

Are these the same military higher-ups who said we would find weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq?



--
There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Nov 24, 3:39*pm, (Larry W) wrote:
In article ,Country wrote:

...snipped...
Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military higher-
ups are saying.

...snipped...

Are these the same military higher-ups who said we would find weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq?

--
* *There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

* * *Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org


Wasn't that the CIA?

In article ,
Country wrote:
On Nov 24, 3:39*pm, (Larry W) wrote:
In article
,Country
wrote:

...snipped...
Severe fuel shortages are coming. At least that's what military higher-
ups are saying.

...snipped...

Are these the same military higher-ups who said we would find weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq?

--
* *There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

* * *Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org


Wasn't that the CIA?


Well, I was thinking about Colin Powell doing his dog and pony show
on TV when I wrote that, but you have a point, he was out of the military
at that time and was Secretary of State. At any rate, I suppose he, the
military, and the CIA were just reporting what they were told to.

--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation
with the average voter. (Winston Churchill)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Nov 23, 9:40*pm, Andy wrote:
If the power is that unreliable, I'd be making plans to move or switch
electric providers.

One power outage every 5-10 years is "unreliable?"

Jeez, I better start packing because my power goes out on average 1
time per year.

Where do you live Andy? I'd like to move in next door and share in
that reliable power that never goes out even once in a decade.

From my own experience with storing cans of kerosene long-term in my
garage, you can keep them around for at least 10-20 years and it will
still be good-as long as it's in a dry environment and in an air-tight
container. It's likely that it can stay useable for 100+ years.

Over the years, the color sometimes turn from clear to a bit yellow
tinted, but I've never noticed any problems with the burning
performance or putting out any off odors.

Also, my only experience applies for K-1 kerosene. I don't know how
well the lower grade kerosene stuff (i.e. red dye) holds up.

Angello

For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?


Thanks!

David

David Combs wrote:
For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?


Thanks!

David


It keeps a long time. I have stored it over 2 years. My fuel oil in my
tank is 3 years old and still works good; don't use much. Burn wood.

--
LSMFT

Simple job, assist the assistant of the physicist.

David Combs wrote:

For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?

Thanks!

David

I believe K-1 kerosene stores better without treatment than #2 diesel,
and #2 diesel does pretty well by itself. Keeping it sealed and water
free is the main way to ensure long storage life. A biocide is helpful
if there may be some moisture in the fuel that could promote
algae/bacteria growth. Power Service Bio Kleen (not to be confused with
their Diesel Kleen) is a strong biocide that can give you that extra
protection. The cetane boost and anti-gel additives that are available
aren't relevant to kerosene or to basic heaters.

On 23 Nov 2010 17:13:15 -0500, (David Combs) wrote:

For emergencies only, I have a still-in-original-box kerosene
heater.

Emergenceis, lets say, occur only every 5 years. Or 10.

So, you want to store a bunch of kerosene for that
eventual emergency. But doesn't kerosene "go bad"
after a while?

What can you do so as to keep the kerosene "good"
for a LONG time?

----

Also, what do YOU do for keeping around the ability
to heat an area if and when the power goes out
for eg a week or so?


Thanks!

David


Hello David,

I've kept kerosene (in a sealed metal tin stored in a tin shed) for
over 10 years, and it still works fine in my kerosene lamps and
kerosene heaters.

I'd say it is pretty stable just naturally.

Ross

Thanks to all for the experiences and answers.

Looks like stability is no problem, as long as
it's kept tightly seled-up.

David

Thanks again!